Who will win in upcoming LokSabha elections in India?

[metro]

Then why u allowed the formation of pakistan???If it was division based on majority religion of the land then kashmir deserves that right too based on majority of religion in J&K.if u say kashmir doesnt deserve that right of self determination then neither does pak nor does bangladesh deserve that right then.

Pakistan was formed so that those muslims who did not want to live with hindus, or did not to be ruled by non-muslims, can leave for a muslim-based land.
if kashmiris had any problem with India or hindus they should have gone to Pakistan already then.

if these people cant live in peace with anyone, then its not our fault, partition has happened, and it wont happen ever again.

those who have problems, with people of other religions, can pack thier bags and leave to where the originally come from.

 

[KS]

Then why u allowed the formation of pakistan???If it was division based on majority religion of the land then kashmir deserves that right too based on majority of religion in J&K.if u say kashmir doesnt deserve that right of self determination then neither does pak nor does bangladesh deserve that right then.

Let me be blunt as much as I can, the land of Kashmir stays in India - the people of Kashmir can chose to live where they want to.Period.

Yeah you are right.....One of my friend who is from hydrabad told me that his area predominatly muslim......and the MP of the area never mentions Indian in his speeches.....always that muslims voted him to power.......and surprisingly that is the most backward places in Hydrabad........my friend is at NIMS there.......

Edit: But yeah I guess he may be exaggerating

No what he said is right - he might be referring to the "Old City Ghetto" in Hyderabad.

 

[ajtr]

That is a very gross generlisation and wrong also...India like other countries(and rightly so) takes decisions in it's own interest and interest in the citizens of country.....If you may then call India hypocrite nation......but that does not make a difference does it........

All my point is when our foundation is laid on democratic process then y should we deny to our own people.1st mistake india did in 1946-47 by not accepting Jinnah's plan for equal representation for muslim based on their population.its widely known he never wanted partition but was forced into it by congress.Same mistake various GOI's ve been repeating with last 63 yrs wrt kashmir.

 

[Wounded-Monk]

Then why u allowed the formation of pakistan???If it was division based on majority religion of the land then kashmir deserves that right too based on majority of religion in J&K.if u say kashmir doesnt deserve that right of self determination then neither does pak nor does bangladesh deserve that right then.

Pakistan was formed due to opinion of muslim elites and progressive muslims who thought that muslims in India would not be given enough opprtunities and discriminated.....and looking now pakistan does not seem to be like a progreeive country does it......and yeah you will agree that kasmir is with India due to Pakistan's own fault doesn't it......

Edit: On a side note there wont be plabecide in Tibet also..... I dont think India claims moral high ground on kasmir.....though Indians do so due to blind patriotism as you call it.......

 

[metro]

All my point is when our foundation is laid on democratic process then y should we deny to our own people.1st mistake india did in 1946-47 by not accepting Jinnah's plan for equal representation for muslim based on their population.its widely known he never wanted partition but was forced into it by congress.Same mistake various GOI's ve been repeating with last 63 yrs wrt kashmir.

being democratic doesn't mean bending over to every tom dick n harry separatist.
Kashmir is our land, it had been ours for centuries and will stay ours for coming centuries.

secondly, democracy, is not even properly being laid into Kashmir yet, the day it is laid down thier properly, all these problems would end once n for all.

thefirst step in that direction would be to withdraw article 170 from valley, second step would be rehabilitate the kashmiri pundits, the original natives of that land, in the valley.

u can keep ignoring my comments, coz u have no counter arguments to present.

 

[ajtr]

Let me be blunt as much as I can, the land of Kashmir stays in India - the people of Kashmir can chose to live where they want to.Period.

let me be blunt to u.....If ever kashmiris quit indian union they will quit along with their forefathers land.period.

 

[baker]

No I cannot.

And Kashmiris are not God's chosen people to treat them like that. They are just jumping up and down like pampered,spoilt kids.

Millions crossed the border during partition (based on religion) leaving behind all their belongings,properties and friends. Let the Kashmiris do that as our forefathers did.

The land anyways stays !

so let the blood shed continue.......

honestly dude , am from sothern india i have no idea how the situation will be valley all that am reading from news paper is that ,
3 millitants killed , our 1 soldier killed..
and rememeber this is not a war front.. there are family living up there , there are people who is going to office daily just like us and there are children going to school every day...

all i meant in my post was am giving priority to people living there than both countires ego

peace

 

[KS]

let me be blunt to u.....If ever kashmiris quit indian union they will quit along with their forefathers land.period.

We will see who has the money,military and the international standing.

There are examples right before our eyes, but the GoI being spineless as it is, is not emulating them.

 

[metro]

let me be blunt to u.....If ever kashmiris quit indian union they will quit along with their forefathers land.period.

they have been trying to do this for decades, but failing repeatedly.

we have not yet even tried it, the day we started replying to them in the same language that they understand, all the scum will be cleared once n for all.

p.s.- the only people who can call kashmir to be thier ancestrl land are pundits and sikhs. rest all are outsiders, who needs to be kicked out ASAP.

 

[Wounded-Monk]

All my point is when our foundation is laid on democratic process then y should we deny to our own people.1st mistake india did in 1946-47 by not accepting Jinnah's plan for equal representation for muslim based on their population.its widely known he never wanted partition but was forced into it by congress.Same mistake various GOI's ve been repeating with last 63 yrs wrt kashmir.

That is why I agree to many of your points.....I really liked what IndianArmy sir said yesterday that if we dont have an immediate solution at our hand what happened at lal chouk was correct........We already have enough blood on our hands more idiotic politics is not needed......lets see if BJP has courage to do some real politics which leads to exposure of scams.....or just some silly yatras only.....

 

[Christian]

Whatever happens, in the end i prefer having the same party rule india again. having BJP come to power would be a nightmare. They take so many rash decisions which could ultimately prove to be our downfall.

 

[lionheart1]

kashmir belong to us no power in the world can separate kashmir from us . pakistan has tried three time throught war , terrorism and now through stone pelter's, nothing happened , nothing will happen.

 

[KS]

so lets the blood shed continue.......

honestly dude , am from sothern india i have no idea how the situation will be valley all that am reading from news paper is that ,
3 millitants killed , our 1 soldier killed..
and rememeber this is not a war front.. there are family living up there , there are people who is going to office daily just like us and there are children going to school every day...

all i meant in my post was if am giving priority to people living there than both countires ego

peace

I am also from South India, specifically Tamil Nadu. But how does it matter where we are from ?

There is something called 'territorial integrity' which every Indian must be proud of and willing to defend. I cannot let that pride go away.

You mentioned about 1 soldier - what about the thousand others who gave their life for the defence of the motherland during the 4 wars and the countless others who gave for fighting sponsored terrorism. Will not their sacrifices go in vain ? What about the lakhs of Hindu Pandits/Buddhists who were victims of the terrorism ?

Will not kneeling before the religious fanatics/separatists seen as a defeat of the purpose our nation was made a secular one and not a Hindu one ?

See nobody is holding back the Kashmiris and forcing them to live as Indians - if they dont want to, let them do what million others did. Cross the border and live happily ever after. I am sure Pakistan will accpet them after all they are the true well-wishers of the Kashmiris.

 

[ajtr]

Pakistan was formed due to opinion of muslim elites and progressive muslims who thought that muslims in India would not be given enough opprtunities and discriminated.....and looking now pakistan does not seem to be like a progreeive country does it......and yeah you will agree that kasmir is with India due to Pakistan's own fault doesn't it......

In all todays scenario kashmir will opt more for free state than merging pakistan.and kashmir's case is also same as religion based majority opting to break away from india.

Edit: On a side note there wont be plabecide in Tibet also..... I dont think India claims moral high ground on kasmir.....though Indians do so due to blind patriotism as you call it.......

LET US ACHIEVE MORAL HIGH GROUND AT HOME FIRST.WHEN THATS DONE INDIA WILL BE IN MORALLY HIGH POSITION TO TALK ABOUT TIBET.

 

[KS]

This thread supposed to be a poll n the party that wins has ultimately me the fate of what every thread meets - Kashmir with a well known troll taking the much needed initiative.

Sigh !