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Who Will Win Asia's Fifth-Generation Fighter Race?

ugh, this stupidity.

obviously either china or russia will first field a 5th gen outside of the US f-22 and F35. too close right now to tell whose will be first, but i'm wagering china, more planes, none of em on fire yet.

japan's got a single, 2/3 sized, tech demonstrator(not a prototype), without sensors or weapons or even room for a internal bay. after the demonstrator flies and is studied THEN they might move to full sized fighter planning, design testing, then prototype, either way they are far behind.

koreas got a paper plane, no even a tech demonstrator

no one else is even remotely close. india's is based on the russian pak-fa
 
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I have to disagree. First the post was written by some westerner. And I can say with full faith that India is ahead of China on many fields. MARS mission is one such example. Even on Missiles, Chinese may be ahead on range, but India is ahead on lot of other technologies. Indians always believed in frugal engineering. No wonder India could send a mission to MARS on just $70 million where as a similar mission by NASA costed $2 billion. So don't believe in $300 b vs $40 b claims. Next, majority of Chinese members on net are bots employed by CPC to put a favorable opinion of China.
Don't believe what the india medias tell you,because they will lie like other western countries do.India and China in the same period of independence , but we see now , all aspects of the gap between the two countries are increasing. China has developed into large-scale infrastructure developed countries, India's infrastructure is not even as good as Vietnam . Do you think China does not lead in any field in India ? What I said now is just one of them ,here I come another key examples.With respect to China , India has no perfect industrial system , so almost all the weapons were bought from other countries. Although in these past few years India developed its own weapons, but the Indian military soldiers themselves do not want to use them because they have quality problems and to use faulty .Even like this,we can see the Indians joke about chinese products' quality.I wonder why they would most like to buy the cheapest kind of rubbish , perhaps because they like asking for trouble , so that they can blame the chinese products' quality. China has many high quality products , but basically for the Western countries of production, a lot of people in India can not afford them.
Secondly, the Indians think their computer technology is more developed than China . For this problem, I have to prove three facts . First, China has now spread a large area fiber optic broadband , 60% of Internet users can reach the speed of 11Mb / s, there's no need to say the speed of the network in India,it's too slow. Second, the number of computer users in China is the world's largest , computer ownership per capita is several times higher in India than in China . Third, China 's supercomputer is now the world's fastest , and India never get this title.When you see here, perhaps you would like to cite an example of India's software outsourcing industry , then you can explore this by yourself . You can go and see the number of the world's top 500 enterprises inside the software company in China 's and India 's . But I would say that there are many American companies' executives were born in India , this shows that Indians are talented , but why can't see many Indian software companies appear on the list of that?This is because all the conditions are not good cause such a person can not appear in India.

Thanks for reading this such a long reply,I hope you can realize how the difference was caused between India and China.
 
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Japan has also been developing its own fifth-generation air superiority fighter as it looks to replace its ageing F-15s. Developed by the Ministry of Defense Technical Research and Development Institute, the Mitubishi ATD-X Shinshin project was launched after Washington refused to sell Tokyo the F-22 Raptor. However, the ATD-X (also known as the Mitsubishi F-3) is meant to enter service by the late 2020s. In the meantime, Japan has ordered 42 F-35s, which are supposed to serve as a stopgap measure between its F-15s and the ATD-X. It is assumed that the Shinshin will incorporate at least some of the F-35’s stealth technology.

If completed, the F-3 is supposed to incorporate some cutting-edge technology. The aircraft will be fitted with an active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar. The radar will have capabilities for electronic countermeasures, communications functions, and possibly even microwave weapon functions. The Shinshin is planned to have a flight-by-optics flight control system. Data is transmitted by optical fibers rather than wires. In this way data is transmitted faster and is immune to electromagnetic disturbance.

Furthermore, the new Japanese aircraft will have a so-called self repairing flight control capability. It will allow the aircraft to detect failures or damage in its flight control surfaces. The system will calibrate remaining control surfaces accordingly to retain controlled flight.

South Korea

South Korea’s next generation fighter is also a long-term project. The Korea Aerospace Industries KF-X isn’t strictly speaking a fifth-generation aircraft, but is termed as “4,5 generational” platform. The KF-X is an ambitious program, aiming to provide Seoul with a stealth fighter with capabilities better than the best current fourth-generation fighters (including the F-16s it currently possesses), but short of the F-35 and its counterparts. This is probably due to both costs as well as the necessity of having a fighter that will be invisible to North Korean radars, while having enough capabilities to intercept Chinese and even Japanese fifth-generation aircraft.

As previously discussed by Robert Farley for the Diplomat, Seoul has agreed to purchase 40 F-35s, alongside 25 different technologies. This will give Seoul the necessary tech and materials to design and construct the KF-X. However, four of these technologies are currently being withheld due to pressure from the U.S. Congress and defense industries.

According to Farley, “The four technologies in question are the active electronically scanned radar, the infrared search-and-rescue systems, the electro-optical targeting pod, and the radio frequency jammer. Reports indicate that Korea will attempt to develop the latter two technologies indigenously, and the former two in cooperation with foreign (non-US) industry.”

The reason behind the U.S. reluctance is probably due to the fact the South Korea is hoping to export the KF-X once it’s completed. Indonesia has already signed up to the program, and will receive 80 fighters once they are completed; Seoul has said that it will field 120 KF-Xs by 2025-2030. If Seoul manages to produce a fighter that actually works, it could present an affordable alternative to the F-35.

However, as Dave Majumdar notes, it is unlikely that South Korea will be able to develop all of the relevant technologies (or acquire them from other sources) in a timely fashion. The DoD decision could lead to a cancellation of the entire F-35 deal, which would leave Korea without a fifth-generation fighter for the foreseeable future.

India

The final major indigenously developed Asian fifth-generation fighter is India’s Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA), currently under development by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited. As opposed to Japan and South Korea (and China, if the espionage reports are accurate), India doesn’t currently and likely won’t in the future have access to the F-35’s technology. Furthermore, as part of Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s “Make in India” campaign, much of the technology and hardware installed in the AMCA will be indigenously developed. However, there are speculations that HAL will be able to acquire some of the necessary technology from Russia, which is in the testing stages of its own fifth-generation fighter, the Sukhoi PAK-FA T-50.

The AMCA is supposed to supplement, rather than outright replace, many of India’s current platforms. Like the F-35, the AMCA is supposed to be a multirole fighter, able to conduct both air-to-air combat and air-to-ground sorties. It will be powered by twin GTRE K-10 turbofans, the successor of the cancelled Kaveri engine. This will be designed and produced with help from a undecided foreign company (the odds are that this will either be the French Snecma M88 or U.S. General Electric’s F-414.) HAL is planning to design a carrier-based platform of the AMCA as well. These would probably operate from the new Vikrant-class aircraft carrier. According to the Times of India, the AMCA will be ready for testing in 2023-2024.

The next-generation battle for Asia’s skies is on. Which of these birds will prevail over the continent?
what about Iranian Qaher-313 that is also astealth variant?
 
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this one of the stupidest articles can go into this length of discussion``on my``!

you might as well to ask 'who is the more advanced country, Somalia or U.S.A?' ```duh``````
 
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what about Iranian Qaher-313 that is also astealth variant?
we have to wait whither its comes out as a real stealth fighter like the present fifth generation fighter like pakfa F-25 F-3 or just as a project .
 
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we have to wait whither its comes out as a real stealth fighter like the present fifth generation fighter like pakfa F-25 F-3 or just as a project .
as i said above it is not expected to come out but hey first chinese train has reached tehran mayne they can help them out
 
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China won quite a while back.....Japan is next, then South Korea.
 
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It will be Japanese if you consider the quality.Their shinshins would be the best fifth gen fighter in Asia except Pak Fa .
It is because of their work ethics and technological advancement
 
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The X-2 is a real abortion of an aircraft. They built it in such short time and probably vut a few corners. I would think the Japanese were banking on the US providing them F22's eventually but I guess America is going by a different foreign policy doctrine these days. Yet they're firmly in 3rd place considering the ones after it are even more developmental.
 
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Japan has the technological edge over the rest of the Asian nations including Russia. And she has a long aviation history. Further she has a far more disciplined, mature and effective production culture compared to other Assian nations only followed by South Korea. it's just a matter of choice for them. simple there is no race....
 
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Japan has the technological edge over the rest of the Asian nations including Russia. And she has a long aviation history. Further she has a far more disciplined, mature and effective production culture compared to other Assian nations only followed by South Korea. it's just a matter of choice for them. simple there is no race....

X-2 on the way. It featured with vector thrust engines



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According to the Japanese Defense Ministry, Tokyo conducted a ground test of the country's first domestic fighter jet.

TOKYO (Sputnik) — Japan held a ground test, on Wednesday, of its first aircraft designed with stealth technology, which makes the plane invisible to radar systems.

"We have made sure that everything goes according to the plan. We have high hopes of developing a domestic fighter and of developing the whole aircraft industry in the future," Japanese Defense Minister Gen Nakatani, who oversaw the test, said.
Japan started to develop their own stealth aircraft in 2009. The project has cost 40 billion yens ($350 million) and involved some 200 companies.
During the first ground test, the aircraft traveled a distance of 500 meters (0.3 miles) on a runway at a speed of 62 miles per hour.

It is expected to complete its maiden flight in March.

Read more: Japan Holds Ground Test of First Stealth Aircraft
 
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