who trains Iranian infantry?

[Major Shaitan Singh]

Abey ser ma ganti kyu band liya hai.... goli lagte hi baje ga kya ... War tactics should be learned by fighting the terrorist. In Modern times it all about fighting in highly populated area like in city which need to be learned. I believe Iran is learning that in Syria.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

4 : 1 in Plains against an entrenched enemy(bunkers/etc)
9 : 1 in Mountain assault.

Ofcourse these are only recommended figures and not a rule, militaries have won with less and lost with more.

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I agree

re PLA and all that
I will let Chinese to speak for PLA themselves
Chinese are frighteningly deceptive you cant tell what's in their minds with those plain emotionless faces.
you wont see Chinese doing anything different than you guys, economic power+ military power is their aim for their power projection and influence in South China Sea and far East.

 

[Judge]

I agree

re PLA and all that
I will let Chinese to speak for PLA themselves
Chinese are frighteningly deceptive you cant tell what's in their minds with those plain emotionless faces.
you wont see Chinese doing anything different than you guys, economic power+ military power is their aim for their power projection and influence in South China Sea and far East.

Do read the Sumdorong Chu incident. Should give you an idea on the difference.

 

[Hack-Hook]

I wonder why people think Iran army must train with Pakistan or china army while our ideology in warfare is totally different.

after all we embraced asymmetrical warfare while they have a complete traditional army ?


and how we fair against modern armies were seen 2006 Lebanon war when arguably the must professional army of middle-east with the numerical advantage of between 15-30 time more and fire power of like hundreds of time more could not defeat an arguably rag tag militia which was only taught part of or strategy . they even could not advance 20km in Lebanon and at the end of 30 day their advance parties were surrounded and they have to ask US and EU to provide them with a ceasefire that let them save those forces.
and don't forget Hezbollah had no radar or air-defense at all .and the funny part was that the mightiest army of middle-east ran out of ammo so they had to ask NATO to give them their reserves in eastern Europe.

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

PA does training exercises with a multitude of nations:

Turkey (NATO)
China
Arab States: Egypt/ SA/ Jordan/ UAE
Zimbabwe
Kenya

PA soldiers are sent for training to:

UK
USA
Turkey
Canada
Germany (NATO Schools)
China
Indonesia <--- Small number


As far as PA <---> PLA exercises go, i'm certain PLA get the better hand.

PA is constrained for resources, PLA can get whatever they want.
PA is battle tested, PLA hasn't seen much in the last 20 years. Besides they are moving their battle doctrines to the 21st century. No more peoples war. Its asymmetric, fast paced. And they have to retrain 1 million+ soldiers for that.

To be honest. I dont see the PLA getting into a fight for the next 20 years. They are much more interested in cyber-warfare.

 

[FaujHistorian]

I wonder why people think Iran army must train with Pakistan or china army while our ideology in warfare is totally different.

after all we embraced asymmetrical warfare while they have a complete traditional army ?.

Ultimate victory is on the main battle field.

Hiding behind women and children and shooting katushas is cowardly.

 

[xenon54 out]

You guys should do training with us like China and Turkey does.

We are neighbors and you guys should benefit from our knowledge since you are closed off to most of the world.

Those Taekwando disarmings was pretty impressive.

 

[Parthianshot]

Pakistan Military will toast iranian forces (i refuse to write "military" for iran) in like what? three weeks maximum?

Have you seen Pakistan's forces? Their training? Past combat experience? Their officer corps comprising of officers who have trained in harshest of conditions in elite of the elite military academies of Austrailia, United States, United Kingdom, Pakistan, Turkey and even Germany etc.

Pakistani-made tanks will chew your "zulfiqar tin boxes" ...Pakistani F-16s will rape vintage F-14s of Iranian air force...

And Pakistan Missile systems can target anywhere in Iran..and Iranian missiles can do the same in Pakistan.

The difference?

Iranian missiles are armed with this

Pakistan missiles can be armed with THIS!!!

Your analogy of Sudan and Egypt is very valid. The only thing is: Sudan = Iranian military, Egypt = Pakistani Military here...

Well see how strong turkey is when isis turns on you, lol.

 

[xenon54 out]

Well see how strong turkey is when isis turns on you, lol.

The world can see and learn how to deal with terrorists then.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Ultimate victory is on the main battle field.

Hiding behind women and children and shooting katushas is cowardly.

the problem is you don't understand what is Asymmetrical warfare is . Hezbollah faced Israel in a battlefield without any woman and children around and they did it in Asymmetrical warfare or you believe they fight Israel from Beirut while the war was south of litany river !!!!?
If Hezbollah have been hidden behind women and children in the cities the Israel was in Beirut at the end of the first week and stranded and surrounded south of Litany river while having 15 to 20 time numeric advantage .
what Taliban do is a pale imitation of asymmetrical warfare .

 

[RazPaK]

the problem is you don't understand what is Asymmetrical warfare is . Hezbollah faced Israel in a battlefield without any woman and children around and they did it in Asymmetrical warfare or you believe they fight Israel from Beirut while the war was south of litany river !!!!?
If Hezbollah have been hidden behind women and children in the cities the Israel was in Beirut at the end of the first week and stranded and surrounded south of Litany river while having 15 to 20 time numeric advantage .
what Taliban do is a pale imitation of asymmetrical warfare .

BS.

Taliban is far stronger than Hezbollah.

 

[Hack-Hook]

BS.

Taliban is far stronger than Hezbollah.

tell me that when they stood their ground when they were attacked .

 

[RazPaK]

tell me that when they stood their ground when they were attacked .

You my friend are talking about two different things. On one hand, you are talking about asymmetrical warfare, and now you are talking about standing ground.

There is no better asymmetrical warfare group than the Taliban. Ask the Americans.

 

[The SC]

Guys, first of all please don't bash on me for being a Turk commenting your militay.

@Parthianshot

Mate, this your second thread about the tactics/traning of the Iranian military. In your previous thread, i spotted some major wrongs in terms of tactics. Let me reveal them to you.

First of all Sniper in 2:00

-Why to use a primitive bolt action anti-material rifle which you have to reload manually ? Your rifle should have been with a magazine, if you can't produce it you have to procure it... that's how things work in my country..
- Also, where is the god damn spotter ??

Secondly,

Rescue operation in the ship....

Mate, in close quarters you don't run like crazy...you move slowly, you don't break your aim as a hostile can pop anywhere any second. Also you move with your squat, you don't venture in all alone as someone should cover you. Best example from the video is at 5:48 where he turns his back to below deck...

The proper way is in the video below, watch from 7:40

You are somewhat right but too predictable. The Iranians have adopted both classical techniques and parallel asymmetric techniques, So an enemy can not predict their move.
There is nothing wrong with using a bolt action sniper rifle as long as it serves its purpose in a defined context.
There are videos about new sniper rifles that Iran produces with magazines not bolt action, with sophisticated optics and measurement computers to compensate for wind and other variables.

 

[The SC]

Actually Iran has developed it own war strategies and tactics based on it own experience and by observing closely the so called the best in iraq and Afghanistan. Many US generals wrote about this and it worries them if the it comes to have to confront the Iranians. The Hizbollah experience with a few thousand combatants (not more than 4 thousand) held their ground against more than 150 000 Usraeli troops, with a huge air-force support, and even naval support. Hizbollah was able to decapitate the Usraeli high command by ambushing and killing all the members of its most elite force directly linked to the high command, and laid so much damage on the Usraeli army and navy to the point of making it impotent, confused and shocked. It had no other choice but to retreat back home defeated.
Imagine facing an Army like Hizbollah with one million professional men backed by 12 million semi professional men...