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Demographics:
o World Jewish Population. 14 million
o Distribution: 7 m in America
5 m in Asia
2 m in Europe
100 thousand in Africa
o World Muslim Population: 1.5 billion
o Distribution: 1 billion in Asia/Mid-East
400 M in Africa
44 M in Europe
6 M in the Americas
o Every fifth human being is a Muslim.
o For every single Hindu there are two Muslims
o For every Buddhist there are two Muslims
o For every Jew there are 107 Muslims
o Yet the 14 million Jews are more powerful than the entire 1.5 billion Muslims
Why?

Here are some of the reasons.

Movers of Current History
o Albert Einstein Jewish
o Sigmund Freud Jewish
o Karl Marx Jewish
o Paul Samuelson Jewish
o Milton Friedman Jewish

Medical Milestones
o Vaccinating Needle: Benjamin Ruben Jewish
o Polio Vaccine Jonas Salk Jewish
o Leukaemia Drug Gertrude Elion Jewish
o Hepatitis B Baruch Blumberg Jewish
o Syphilis Drug Paul Ehrlich Jewish
o Neuro muscular Elie Metchnikoff Jewish
o Endocrinology Andrew Schally Jewish
o Cognitive therapy. Aaron Beck Jewish
o Contraceptive Pill Gregory Pincus Jewish
o Understanding of Human Eye. G. Wald Jewish
o Embryology. Stanley Cohen Jewish
o Kidney Dialysis Willem Kloffcame Jewish

Nobel Prize Winners
o In the past 105 years, 14 million Jews have won 180 Nobel prizes whilst 1.5 billion Muslims have contributed only 3 Nobel winners

Inventions that changed History
o Micro- Processing Chip. Stanley Mezor Jewish
o Nuclear Chain Reactor Leo Sziland Jewish
o Optical Fibre Cable Peter Schultz Jewish
o Traffic Lights Charles Adler Jewish
o Stainless Steel Benno Strauss Jewish
o Sound Movies Isador Kisee Jewish
o Telephone Microphone Emile Berliner Jewish
o Video Tape Recorder Charles Ginsburg Jewish

Influential Global Business
o Polo Ralph Lauren Jewish
o Coca Cola Jewish
o Levi's Jeans Levi Strauss Jewish
o Sawbuck's Howard Schultz Jewish
o Google Sergey Brin Jewish
o Dell Computers Michael Dell Jewish
o Oracle Larry Ellison Jewish
o DKNY Donna Karan Jewish
o Baskin & Robbins Irv Robbins Jewish
o Dunkin Donuts Bill Rosenberg Jewish

Influential Intellectuals/Politicians
o Henry Kissinger , US Sec of State Jewish
o Richard Levin, PresidentYaleUniversity Jewish
o Alan Greenspan , US Federal Reserve Jewish
o Joseph Lieberman Jewish
o Madeleine Albright , US Sec of State Jewish
o CasperWeinberger , US Sec of Defence Jewish
o Maxim Litvinov , USSR Foreign Minister Jewish
o DavidMarshal , Singapore Chief Minister Jewish
o Isaacs Isaacs, Gov-GenAustralia Jewish
o Benjamin Disraeli, British Statesman Jewish
o Yevgeny Primakov, Russian PM Jewish
o Barry Goldwater , US Politician Jewish
o Jorge Sampaio, President Portugal Jewish
o Herb Gray, Canadian Deputy - PM Jewish
o Pierre Mendes, French PM Jewish
o Michael Howard, British Home Sec. Jewish
o Bruno Kriesky, Austrian Chancellor Jewish
o Robert Rubin , US Sec of Treasury Jewish

Global Media Influential
o Wolf Blitzer, CNN Jewish
o Barbara Walters ABC News Jewish
o EugeneMeyer , Washington Post Jewish
o Henry Grunwald, Time Magazine Jewish
o Katherine Graham , Washington Post Jewish
o Joseph Lelyeld, New York Times Jewish
o Max Frankel, New York Times Jewish

Global Philanthropists
o George Soros Jewish
o Walter Annenberg Jewish


Why are they powerful? why are Muslims powerless?
Here's another reason. We have lost the capacity to produce knowledge.

o In the entire Muslim World (57 Muslim Countries) there are only 500 universities.
o In USA alone, 5,758 universities
o In India alone, 8,407 universities
o Not one university in the entire Islamic World features in the Top 500 Ranking Universities of the World
o Literacy in the Christian World 90%
o Literacy in the Muslim World 40%
o 15 Christian majority-countries, literacy rate 100%
o Muslim majority - countries , None
o 98% in Christian countries completed primary
o Only 50% in Muslim countries completed primary.
o 40% in Christian countries attended university
o In Muslim countries a dismal 2% attended.
o Muslim majority countries have 230 scientists per one million Muslims
o The USA has 5000 per million
o The Christian world 1000 technicians per million.
o Entire Arab World only 50 technicians per million.
o Muslim World spends on research/development 0.2% of GDP
o Christian World spends 5 % of GDP

Conclusion.
o The Muslim World lacks the capacity to produce knowledge.

Another way of testing the degree of knowledge is the degree of diffusing knowledge.

o Pakistan 23 daily newspapers per 1000 citizens
o Singapore 460 per 1000 citizens.
o In UK book titles per million is 2000
o In Egypt book titles per million is only 17

Conclusion.
o Muslim World is failing to diffuse knowledge

Applying Knowledge is another such test.
o Exports of high tech products from Pakistan is 0.9% of its exports.
o In Saudi Arabia is 0.2%
o Kuwait , Morocco and Algeria 0.3%
o Singapore alone is 68%

Conclusion.
o Muslim World is failing to apply knowledge.
What do you conclude? no need to tell the figures are speaking themselves very loudly we are unable to listen
Advice:
Please educate yourself and your children. always promote education, don't compromise on it, don't ignore your children's slightest misguidance from education (and please, for ALLAH'S Sake, don't use your personal contacts or sources to promote your children in their education; if they fail, let them and make them learn to pass; b/c if they can't do it now, they can't ever).
We are World's biggest and strongest nation, all we need is to identify and explore our ownselves. Our victory is with our knowledge.
@WebMaster @Slav Defence @Zarvan @Spring Onion
 
When your common man believes that earthquakes are caused due to bad deeds instead of faults in tectonic plates or some actual scientific logic, then you're bound to produce people who instead of thinking how to predict them... would rather shout a few snackbars and hide in the corner... i am ashamed to live among such people because of the potential harm they can cause to themselves... but wait we have jannah in case we die by eath quakes cause it's a sudden death...

Any soldier here who has witnessed angels coming down during a war or a mission?
 
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Demographics:
o World Jewish Population. 14 million
o Distribution: 7 m in America
5 m in Asia
2 m in Europe
100 thousand in Africa
o World Muslim Population: 1.5 billion
o Distribution: 1 billion in Asia/Mid-East
400 M in Africa
44 M in Europe
6 M in the Americas
o Every fifth human being is a Muslim.
o For every single Hindu there are two Muslims
o For every Buddhist there are two Muslims
o For every Jew there are 107 Muslims
o Yet the 14 million Jews are more powerful than the entire 1.5 billion Muslims
Why?

Here are some of the reasons.

Movers of Current History
o Albert Einstein Jewish
o Sigmund Freud Jewish
o Karl Marx Jewish
o Paul Samuelson Jewish
o Milton Friedman Jewish

Medical Milestones
o Vaccinating Needle: Benjamin Ruben Jewish
o Polio Vaccine Jonas Salk Jewish
o Leukaemia Drug Gertrude Elion Jewish
o Hepatitis B Baruch Blumberg Jewish
o Syphilis Drug Paul Ehrlich Jewish
o Neuro muscular Elie Metchnikoff Jewish
o Endocrinology Andrew Schally Jewish
o Cognitive therapy. Aaron Beck Jewish
o Contraceptive Pill Gregory Pincus Jewish
o Understanding of Human Eye. G. Wald Jewish
o Embryology. Stanley Cohen Jewish
o Kidney Dialysis Willem Kloffcame Jewish

Nobel Prize Winners
o In the past 105 years, 14 million Jews have won 180 Nobel prizes whilst 1.5 billion Muslims have contributed only 3 Nobel winners

Inventions that changed History
o Micro- Processing Chip. Stanley Mezor Jewish
o Nuclear Chain Reactor Leo Sziland Jewish
o Optical Fibre Cable Peter Schultz Jewish
o Traffic Lights Charles Adler Jewish
o Stainless Steel Benno Strauss Jewish
o Sound Movies Isador Kisee Jewish
o Telephone Microphone Emile Berliner Jewish
o Video Tape Recorder Charles Ginsburg Jewish

Influential Global Business
o Polo Ralph Lauren Jewish
o Coca Cola Jewish
o Levi's Jeans Levi Strauss Jewish
o Sawbuck's Howard Schultz Jewish
o Google Sergey Brin Jewish
o Dell Computers Michael Dell Jewish
o Oracle Larry Ellison Jewish
o DKNY Donna Karan Jewish
o Baskin & Robbins Irv Robbins Jewish
o Dunkin Donuts Bill Rosenberg Jewish

Influential Intellectuals/Politicians
o Henry Kissinger , US Sec of State Jewish
o Richard Levin, PresidentYaleUniversity Jewish
o Alan Greenspan , US Federal Reserve Jewish
o Joseph Lieberman Jewish
o Madeleine Albright , US Sec of State Jewish
o CasperWeinberger , US Sec of Defence Jewish
o Maxim Litvinov , USSR Foreign Minister Jewish
o DavidMarshal , Singapore Chief Minister Jewish
o Isaacs Isaacs, Gov-GenAustralia Jewish
o Benjamin Disraeli, British Statesman Jewish
o Yevgeny Primakov, Russian PM Jewish
o Barry Goldwater , US Politician Jewish
o Jorge Sampaio, President Portugal Jewish
o Herb Gray, Canadian Deputy - PM Jewish
o Pierre Mendes, French PM Jewish
o Michael Howard, British Home Sec. Jewish
o Bruno Kriesky, Austrian Chancellor Jewish
o Robert Rubin , US Sec of Treasury Jewish

Global Media Influential
o Wolf Blitzer, CNN Jewish
o Barbara Walters ABC News Jewish
o EugeneMeyer , Washington Post Jewish
o Henry Grunwald, Time Magazine Jewish
o Katherine Graham , Washington Post Jewish
o Joseph Lelyeld, New York Times Jewish
o Max Frankel, New York Times Jewish

Global Philanthropists
o George Soros Jewish
o Walter Annenberg Jewish


Why are they powerful? why are Muslims powerless?
Here's another reason. We have lost the capacity to produce knowledge.

o In the entire Muslim World (57 Muslim Countries) there are only 500 universities.
o In USA alone, 5,758 universities
o In India alone, 8,407 universities
o Not one university in the entire Islamic World features in the Top 500 Ranking Universities of the World
o Literacy in the Christian World 90%
o Literacy in the Muslim World 40%
o 15 Christian majority-countries, literacy rate 100%
o Muslim majority - countries , None
o 98% in Christian countries completed primary
o Only 50% in Muslim countries completed primary.
o 40% in Christian countries attended university
o In Muslim countries a dismal 2% attended.
o Muslim majority countries have 230 scientists per one million Muslims
o The USA has 5000 per million
o The Christian world 1000 technicians per million.
o Entire Arab World only 50 technicians per million.
o Muslim World spends on research/development 0.2% of GDP
o Christian World spends 5 % of GDP

Conclusion.
o The Muslim World lacks the capacity to produce knowledge.

Another way of testing the degree of knowledge is the degree of diffusing knowledge.

o Pakistan 23 daily newspapers per 1000 citizens
o Singapore 460 per 1000 citizens.
o In UK book titles per million is 2000
o In Egypt book titles per million is only 17

Conclusion.
o Muslim World is failing to diffuse knowledge

Applying Knowledge is another such test.
o Exports of high tech products from Pakistan is 0.9% of its exports.
o In Saudi Arabia is 0.2%
o Kuwait , Morocco and Algeria 0.3%
o Singapore alone is 68%

Conclusion.
o Muslim World is failing to apply knowledge.
What do you conclude? no need to tell the figures are speaking themselves very loudly we are unable to listen
Advice:
Please educate yourself and your children. always promote education, don't compromise on it, don't ignore your children's slightest misguidance from education (and please, for ALLAH'S Sake, don't use your personal contacts or sources to promote your children in their education; if they fail, let them and make them learn to pass; b/c if they can't do it now, they can't ever).
We are World's biggest and strongest nation, all we need is to identify and explore our ownselves. Our victory is with our knowledge.
@WebMaster @Slav Defence @Zarvan @Spring Onion
Problems aside and yes their re major problems but sorry many are distorted facts or half truth.
 
Problems aside and yes their re major problems but sorry many are distorted facts or half truth.
What half truth stats based on facts if still think so kindly explain how ?
We Muslims are in freezing state (Jamood) since many centuries but OP must mention the inventions and books (research) which lead west (jewish) to invent many things still today Muslim researcher acknowledged by west.
@Panther 57
Brother many inventions based on earlier muslim research when noble prize was not started.
Astronomers[edit]
Biologists, neuroscientists, and psychologists[edit]
Further information: Islamic psychological thought
Chemists and alchemists[edit]
Further information: Alchemy (Islam)
Economists and social scientists[edit]
Further information: Islamic economics in the world
See also: List of Muslim historians and Historiography of early Islam
Geographers and earth scientists[edit]
Further information: Muslim Agricultural Revolution
Mathematicians[edit]
Further information: Islamic mathematics: Biographies
Physicians and surgeons[edit]
Main article: Muslim doctors
Physicists and engineers[edit]
Further information: Islamic physics
Political scientists[edit]
Other scientists and inventors[edit]
@WAJsal @Slav Defence @WebMaster
 
What half truth stats based on facts if still think so kindly explain how ?
We Muslims are in freezing state (Jamood) since many centuries but OP must mention the inventions and books (research) which lead west (jewish) to invent many things still today Muslim researcher acknowledged by west.
@Panther 57
Brother many inventions based on earlier muslim research when noble prize was not started.
Astronomers[edit]
Biologists, neuroscientists, and psychologists[edit]
Further information: Islamic psychological thought
Chemists and alchemists[edit]
Further information: Alchemy (Islam)
Economists and social scientists[edit]
Further information: Islamic economics in the world
See also: List of Muslim historians and Historiography of early Islam
Geographers and earth scientists[edit]
Further information: Muslim Agricultural Revolution
Mathematicians[edit]
Further information: Islamic mathematics: Biographies
Physicians and surgeons[edit]
Main article: Muslim doctors
Physicists and engineers[edit]
Further information: Islamic physics
Political scientists[edit]
Other scientists and inventors[edit]
@WAJsal @Slav Defence @WebMaster
For example philanthropy sorry but many Muslims countries when it comes to GDP ration most charity giving but yes we need to focus on education and health which we can't until we have corrupt Governments on top.
 
Nice message from the OP. Respect. But what education does he mean? something that is factual or something that is as per the religion (no disrespect to Islam). I watched a show where Zakir Naik openly claimed that there is no concept as evolution as peer Islam so Muslims should not belive that. He refused to accept that humans evolved from apes. I am no scientist but if that is what is education in Islam then, am really sorry its not going to help. I hope Zakir Naik is wrong and Muslims dont blive in that sort of education. Thanks to the OP as I had his question in mind for a long time ever since I saw that show.
 
Nice message from the OP. Respect. But what education does he mean? something that is factual or something that is as per the religion (no disrespect to Islam). I watched a show where Zakir Naik openly claimed that there is no concept as evolution as peer Islam so Muslims should not belive that. He refused to accept that humans evolved from apes. I am no scientist but if that is what is education in Islam then, am really sorry its not going to help. I hope Zakir Naik is wrong and Muslims dont blive in that sort of education. Thanks to the OP as I had his question in mind for a long time ever since I saw that show.
Then you should read my post many inventions by Jewish based on the research of early Muslims and if you believe in Darwin's theory i have no problem, find your roots in chimps and apps we don't care.

evolution creation
For the Muslim there is no need for separation between religion and science. It is understood from the Quran, revealed over 1,400 years ago, that there is both; "Creation" and "Evolution." And in both instances, it is only Allah who is "Able to do all things." In fact, it was the Muslim scientists, more than 1,000 years ago, who set the stage for the advancement of learning, technology and disciplines in science that we know today.

Allah has explained how He created everything in the universe and brought all life out of water. He created humans from earth (not monkeys) and there is no need to attempt fabrications of "links" to the animal world in Islam.

The Christian Bible says that Adam & Eve were both created here on Earth, less than 10,000 years ago. The Quran says that Adam & Eve were created in Heaven, and NOT on Earth. When they disobeyed God, He expelled them from Heaven, down to Earth.

Muslims believe that souls are assigned to humans 40 days after the human inception. The Quran says that angels retrieve human souls on two occasions. One occasion is when humans die. The other occasion is every time humans fall asleep. When humans wakeup, the angels release those souls back to them:

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It is Allah that takes the souls (of men) at death; and those that did not die, during their sleep: those on whom He has passed the decree of death, He keeps back, but the rest He sends (to their bodies) for a term appointed. Verily in this are Signs for those who reflect.

[Noble Quran 39:42]


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And Allah has Created every animal from water; of them are some creeping on their bellies; some walk on two legs; and some on four. Allah Creates what He wills: for sure Allah has Power over all things.

[Noble Quran 24:45]


The Quran has set a precedent 14 centuries before modern science, explaining in simple and direct terms about his "creation" of animals and their various functions and then assures us it is He who has the Power over everything. This statement includes the fact Allah can if He Wills, reshape and alter his creation as He Chooses. There is clear evidence within many species of alteration and changes within the species. However, there is no concrete evidence to support a cross over in development from one type to another, such as reptiles turning into birds or alligators turning into cows. The statements made in Quran are quite clear when Allah tells us of having brought forth other life forms and then destroying or replacing them with others. This again, does not imply evolution in the sense of one type becoming or changing into another.

Allah tells us He is Al-Bari, (The Shaper or Evolver) but once again, this does not mean He has a need to bring about each individual life form all from one kind. Actually, while reading the Quran you learn He has brought many types and shapes and sizes as He Wills. Changes within species occur even as quickly as one or two seasons, not even taking a whole year, much less millions as was supposed by Darwin.

Speaking of Charles Darwin, he was only an armature naturalist and had only observed the finches (birds) on the Galapagos Islands for the first time in the mid 1850s. He noticed that on each island the birds had different shaped beaks according to the type of food available on their particular island. For this reason, he assumed, the birds had progressed over millions of years and only the hardiest of the species had survived the climate and vegetation changes. However, this is totally inaccurate and was dismissed as a mere humor in a TV series on the educational channel in October of 1998. According to the scientists’ discoveries in that very same year, the effects of the weather phenomenon known as El Nino, the climate on these same exact islands had drastically changed in a single year within a number of months. And to their surprise, the eggs of the finches on each island hatched open producing birds with beaks already altered to accommodate the changes of their environment.

The commentator even said this shoots Darwin's theory completely down and he laughed.

There is no DNA research pointing to a connection between apes and humans as was supposed by the scientists and those who had financed them over the years. In fact, the barnyard pig is closer to humans in many aspects, than a monkey or a gorilla. Consider the fact, doctors use the skin from pigs to replace needed tissue on burn victims and the famous movie actor, John Wayne had a pig's heart valve installed in his own heart in a 1977 operation to save his life. It worked, too - until his smoking caused him to die of cancer.

The rational approach to the whole subject is rather simple. Just as He is able to Create the universe and bring forth life, it is simple also for Him to produce as many different types of forms of life as He Wills. No problem for Him, after all - He is the Creator and He is the Shaper. And most important, He can change anything as He Wills - even today.
 
BS..... We have beard and books with every kind of knowledge already written in it, and we are gonna win all over the world including juice.
 
Then you should read my post many inventions by Jewish based on the research of early Muslims and in you believe in Darwin's theory i have no problem, find your roots in chimps and apps we don't care.

Trust me I care neither if you continue to belive what you belive. When I find my roots in chips then that's based on the proofs and logic and I will think the same for every human being on earth from any religion. And I read you post and I do not doubt that Muslims have a hue list of contribution as well. But half of your scientist list who got rewarded the modern awards have studied what the "Modern science" has taught. For example from your list, you think Kerim Kerimov, the Muslim scientist behind Russia human spaceflight did is own research and is not based on other modern science.?
Moreover see the list of inventionss by those jewish scientist and the list that you have provided, it talks in length about the actual contribution to the society (not saying muslims didnt), but try to be logical here and try to understand what I am saying.

Then you should read my post many inventions by Jewish based on the research of early Muslims and if you believe in Darwin's theory i have no problem, find your roots in chimps and apps we don't care.

evolution creation
For the Muslim there is no need for separation between religion and science. It is understood from the Quran, revealed over 1,400 years ago, that there is both; "Creation" and "Evolution." And in both instances, it is only Allah who is "Able to do all things." In fact, it was the Muslim scientists, more than 1,000 years ago, who set the stage for the advancement of learning, technology and disciplines in science that we know today.

Allah has explained how He created everything in the universe and brought all life out of water. He created humans from earth (not monkeys) and there is no need to attempt fabrications of "links" to the animal world in Islam.

The Christian Bible says that Adam & Eve were both created here on Earth, less than 10,000 years ago. The Quran says that Adam & Eve were created in Heaven, and NOT on Earth. When they disobeyed God, He expelled them from Heaven, down to Earth.

Muslims believe that souls are assigned to humans 40 days after the human inception. The Quran says that angels retrieve human souls on two occasions. One occasion is when humans die. The other occasion is every time humans fall asleep. When humans wakeup, the angels release those souls back to them:

bullet2.gif

It is Allah that takes the souls (of men) at death; and those that did not die, during their sleep: those on whom He has passed the decree of death, He keeps back, but the rest He sends (to their bodies) for a term appointed. Verily in this are Signs for those who reflect.

[Noble Quran 39:42]


bullet2.gif

And Allah has Created every animal from water; of them are some creeping on their bellies; some walk on two legs; and some on four. Allah Creates what He wills: for sure Allah has Power over all things.

[Noble Quran 24:45]


The Quran has set a precedent 14 centuries before modern science, explaining in simple and direct terms about his "creation" of animals and their various functions and then assures us it is He who has the Power over everything. This statement includes the fact Allah can if He Wills, reshape and alter his creation as He Chooses. There is clear evidence within many species of alteration and changes within the species. However, there is no concrete evidence to support a cross over in development from one type to another, such as reptiles turning into birds or alligators turning into cows. The statements made in Quran are quite clear when Allah tells us of having brought forth other life forms and then destroying or replacing them with others. This again, does not imply evolution in the sense of one type becoming or changing into another.

Allah tells us He is Al-Bari, (The Shaper or Evolver) but once again, this does not mean He has a need to bring about each individual life form all from one kind. Actually, while reading the Quran you learn He has brought many types and shapes and sizes as He Wills. Changes within species occur even as quickly as one or two seasons, not even taking a whole year, much less millions as was supposed by Darwin.

Speaking of Charles Darwin, he was only an armature naturalist and had only observed the finches (birds) on the Galapagos Islands for the first time in the mid 1850s. He noticed that on each island the birds had different shaped beaks according to the type of food available on their particular island. For this reason, he assumed, the birds had progressed over millions of years and only the hardiest of the species had survived the climate and vegetation changes. However, this is totally inaccurate and was dismissed as a mere humor in a TV series on the educational channel in October of 1998. According to the scientists’ discoveries in that very same year, the effects of the weather phenomenon known as El Nino, the climate on these same exact islands had drastically changed in a single year within a number of months. And to their surprise, the eggs of the finches on each island hatched open producing birds with beaks already altered to accommodate the changes of their environment.

The commentator even said this shoots Darwin's theory completely down and he laughed.

There is no DNA research pointing to a connection between apes and humans as was supposed by the scientists and those who had financed them over the years. In fact, the barnyard pig is closer to humans in many aspects, than a monkey or a gorilla. Consider the fact, doctors use the skin from pigs to replace needed tissue on burn victims and the famous movie actor, John Wayne had a pig's heart valve installed in his own heart in a 1977 operation to save his life. It worked, too - until his smoking caused him to die of cancer.

The rational approach to the whole subject is rather simple. Just as He is able to Create the universe and bring forth life, it is simple also for Him to produce as many different types of forms of life as He Wills. No problem for Him, after all - He is the Creator and He is the Shaper. And most important, He can change anything as He Wills - even today.

Good. Please continue beliveing what you belive in and we will keep beliving on what we belive in. Lets agreee to disagree.
 
Allah in Quran says that those who do not strive to change their condition, then He does not change their conditions either. Islam clearly defines it who is to be blamed for sorry state of affairs
 
Trust me I care neither if you continue to belive what you belive. When I find my roots in chips then that's based on the proofs and logic and I will think the same for every human being on earth from any religion. And I read you post and I do not doubt that Muslims have a hue list of contribution as well. But half of your scientist list who got rewarded the modern awards have studied what the "Modern science" has taught. For example from your list, you think Kerim Kerimov, the Muslim scientist behind Russia human spaceflight did is own research and is not based on other modern science.?
Moreover see the list of inventionss by those jewish scientist and the list that you have provided, it talks in length about the actual contribution to the society (not saying muslims didnt), but try to be logical here and try to understand what I am saying.

There is no restriction in Islam on gaining and seeking knowledge but the individual himself has to be careful how much he can absorb, many go nuts. Human creation is well documented in Islam's religious text. And human evolution is not the only field there are many other wonders of this universe which one needs to research about and think about, and Quran openly invites everyone to research on ALLAH's creations. The problem is today's Muslims have become a closed system, and have assumed responsibility to be guardians of something which they cannot be and which they are not meant to be, they have stopped the free thinking and questioning attitude that was there in early Muslims.
 
There is no restriction in Islam on gaining and seeking knowledge but the individual himself has to be careful how much he can absorb, many go nuts. Human creation is well documented in Islam's religious text. And human evolution is not the only field there are many other wonders of this universe which one needs to research about and think about, and Quran openly invites everyone to research on ALLAH's creations. The problem is today's Muslims have become a closed system, and have assumed responsibility to be guardians of something which they cannot be and which they are not meant to be, they have stopped the free thinking and questioning attitude that was there in early Muslims.

Thank you. makes much more sense.
 
Brother many inventions based on earlier muslim research when noble prize was not started.
No doubt almost all the inventions were by Muslims, it is also our mistake that Muslims could not project it accordingly. Had they been successful it would not have been Wright Brothers but Abbas ibn Farnas known to be father of aviation. Abbas ibn Firnas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
1001 Inventions - Discover a Golden Age, Inspire a Better Future | 1001 Inventions

It is interesting to see thread going in an absolute different direction.

For those who are skeptical about relation of Islam and science I would recommend googling on the subject there are number of videos available. Science does not end at Darwin theory, which can be wrong and is already in question. e.g.

If I am not wrong Islam is the only religion which makes it education mandatory for its followers. And of course this education is not restricted to religious studies. Those contradicting this point may refer to Holy Quran where number of scientific theories, being proven now, were discussed 1400 years back.
 
There is no restriction in Islam on gaining and seeking knowledge but the individual himself has to be careful how much he can absorb, many go nuts. Human creation is well documented in Islam's religious text. And human evolution is not the only field there are many other wonders of this universe which one needs to research about and think about, and Quran openly invites everyone to research on ALLAH's creations. The problem is today's Muslims have become a closed system, and have assumed responsibility to be guardians of something which they cannot be and which they are not meant to be, they have stopped the free thinking and questioning attitude that was there in early Muslims.

Sir, the god damn problem is that the knowledge in the "book" is not definite. Every body has their own monkeys running around. There are no definite concepts. Just that humans are the perfect or the best creation. Oh sorry i disregarded the fact that God said kun... anything more to that? or maybe how god put us together like a potter... are you frigging kidding me? is that the data you provide me... what the hell can any biologist do with a few writings?

What is the evolution cycle? what are the stages... at what stage does the cluster of cells merge to complexity? Sir it is not as simple as defined by the book... as far as hadeeth are concerned they are more about morals than anything else...

Christians are more advanced because their children don't believe in that any more. Rather they believe in laboratory data... and then they make stuff from it... cause in a war time their shall be no angels on them... so they make sure they are well covered...

No doubt almost all the inventions were by Muslims, it is also our mistake that Muslims could not project it accordingly. Had they been successful it would not have been Wright Brothers but Abbas ibn Farnas known to be father of aviation. Abbas ibn Firnas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
1001 Inventions - Discover a Golden Age, Inspire a Better Future | 1001 Inventions

It is interesting to see thread going in an absolute different direction.

For those who are skeptical about relation of Islam and science I would recommend googling on the subject there are number of videos available. Science does not end at Darwin theory, which can be wrong and is already in question. e.g.

If I am not wrong Islam is the only religion which makes it education mandatory for its followers. And of course this education is not restricted to religious studies. Those contradicting this point may refer to Holy Quran where number of scientific theories, being proven now, were discussed 1400 years back.

Of course Sir it doesn't end at Darwinism... but it does tell us what to think next or what approach was adopted to reach the said theory... On the other hand you have a few verses and the sacred stamp on them which basically shouts "no unauthorized personnel allowed" which basically means that i have to grow a shit load of hair on my face to comment on them...

Dear Sir, the work doesn't work on how many or how much people blabber... but rather wants solutions often in the terms of devices and tools, you being in the military would be well versed with concept. So, what gives us those machines, certainly not a few verses rather it's the hard data from the laboratory that actually allows us to make our calculations fitting it into the mathematical models and such.

Sir, it doesn't matter how much of your population is educated but rather it is quality of their thoughts something like their algo forming ability. A few days ago i was talking to a guy about something and the discussion turned around this corner and all i got was illuminatis and stuff... with such minds you can expect them to replicate the existing but thinking out of the box that certainly is not included in the package.

Sir, with all due respect it doesn't matter who did who because i am darn sure indians would win in that if they brought in their vedic guns... but the fact that the wright brothers did their flying on a tape speaks volumes...
 
Sir, the god damn problem is that the knowledge in the "book" is not definite. Every body has their own monkeys running around. There are no definite concepts. Just that humans are the perfect or the best creation. Oh sorry i disregarded the fact that God said kun... anything more to that? or maybe how god put us together like a potter... are you frigging kidding me? is that the data you provide me... what the hell can any biologist do with a few writings?

What is the evolution cycle? what are the stages... at what stage does the cluster of cells merge to complexity? Sir it is not as simple as defined by the book... as far as hadeeth are concerned they are more about morals than anything else...

Kehna kya chahtay ho bahi? Zara asan aur sada alfaz may biyan karo?
 

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