And the state is cracking down upon them thus any allegations through circumstantial evidence goes into the dust.
What you are saying is quite true.The govt. of Pakistan is doing a good job.It is helping the World in general and too some extent India in particular.I am quite sure,some of those gun-wielding religious fanatics would have found their way to Indian territories had they not been involved in skirmishes somewhere else.
But at the same time it is funny to note that,such a high level of commitment towards Anti-terror campaign from the GoP was entirely absent until and unless somebody half way around the World threatened Pakistan to bomb it back to stone age if it failed to see things the way he wishes to.
We'll bomb you to Stone Age, US told Pakistan
I don't remember him saying that and if he did was talking about the 80s and maybe the 90s. I am talking about the current day and age. He also said in Delhi that RAW is supporting terrorists btw.
Musharraf was a celebrated Military General of Pakistan.Though he was a dictator,the part I hate,he was actually brave enough to stand against the tide and take decisive action against the taliban,reasons,no matter what they maybe.His efforts ,lately have been directed towards building friendship between India and Pakistan.But while Musharraf may be a lot of things,he is or never was the Director of RAW.Henceforth,while he says something about ISI or Pakistani Army,it may be considered as a revelation,while whatever he says about RAW can be counted as accusation.
Actually the reports against ISI are allegations. There's absolutely no proof that ISI was involved. We discussed this in the thread regarding allegations from LSE.
I just get confused to see that what you consider to be actual,in spite of so many factual reports alleging ISI involvement deep down.The ISI is widely known to have nurtured the taliban in the past.
Actually it's only Indians who consider Pakistan to epicenter of terrorism. Foreigners don't single out Pakistan as you try to. If anyone is in denial, it's you.
Again you will be surprised to know that a Western News agency & Media Networks Company played the vital role in branding Pakistan to be the "Epicenter of Islamic terrorism".The name is CNN.Does that ring a bell???
That's your argument? We're suppose to accept something without proof? So why don't you accept Indian support for terrorists as well.
So where are the base camps, ideological support, money, arms being provided by the Pakistani state? See what I mean by the denial?
I can see what is meant by state of denial,you don't.
And nevertheless, the state is cracking down on them, so yet again out goes your argument into the dump.
Good luck with the crackdown.I is estimated that there are around 20 million firearms in Pakistan, which has a population of 160 million i.e., every eighth person has a firearm, most likely an automatic one.This is known as the popular Kalashnikov culture of Pakistan.
Situations like this should have never arisen.Now if somebody comes up and tells me that all these happened right under the nose of the govt. with the state agencies being oblivious about it all the time,then I am not going to accept that.Nobody,in sane mind would.
I have to repeat this yet again and I will do it slightly loudly as you still haven't grasped it. Those reports are only allegations - no proof.
The very same was said,repeated many times after that,when GoI accused Kasab of being a Pakistani.
1. A run of the mill simplistic argument. International players have similar interests to India hence they will obviously say similar to what India says.
2. Their reports are only allegations.
3. Their states have denied Pakistan involvement.
Ohh..yes...now this is the latest trend among many Pakistanis nowadays...When nothing suits your way of thinking,you are free to let your imaginations take a flight and land with what we generally refer to as conspiracy theories.
Indians make similar kinds of theories - that NATO is not publicly accusing Pakistan and does not publicly present evidence against Pakistan so as to not make Pakistan unhappy.
And remember what I said. I said the Pakistani state is keeping quite due to US pressure.
Ahh...well,I have been into many arguments to know that cui bono is useless in arguments like this.
Internet warriors like you like in your fantasy land should not try to argue things that you have not even a single iota of an idea about. These things are not so simple that armchair experts such as yourself can grasp. The arguments above prove how simplistic and naive your thinking is. Your thinking is completely useless when it comes to the matters that I am discussing.
I don't even know why I discuss with people who use utterly simplistic and naive arguments which will only work in Disney land.
"If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost; you can still call him vile names."
--Elbert Hubbard.
I just didn't expect that you will resort to name calling so fast.
"The truth"? "THE truth"? How many times have I heard this from an Indian before? What you're talking about is your version of the truth, not the truth.
And what you are talking about is your version.
And yet again run of the mill simplistic arguments. I never said it's a secret. I said it's not done publicly.
The information that is withheld from the public is considered to be a secret kept from the public.I you have any other version,do enlighten.
There's tons of army/ISI insiders who have confirmed that India is deeply involved in supporting TTP.
Just asking,do you have any inside man in ISI who provides you with all these information???
I found a website while surfing,it might be worth a look.Please go through it.
Pakistan Watch
PAKISTAN - EPICENTER OF GLOBAL TERRORISM
if you walk into someone esles country be assured they will make you pay with blood & body bags! everyone is nationalistic!
