Who hates China’s rise the most: from the “yellow peril” to the “biggest challenger”, Why the Anglo-Saxon despise the Chinese so much?

[F-22Raptor]

Lol, really?
Do you know why China can use just a fraction of US defence budget to easily outbuild US hands down?

“In purchasing power parity, they spend about one dollar to our 20 dollars to get to the same capability.”

China Acquiring New Weapons Five Times Faster Than U.S. Warns Top Official

Air Force’s acquisition chief is the latest to warn that the Pentagon is being left behind by the pace of China's defense developments.

www.thedrive.com

Do you know why US can't afford new subways, high speed railways and top class infrastructure as a whole? Your infra is falling apart, cause they cost so much in US and you just don't have that much money to build them.

You can’t compare defense systems unless you have access to a platforms system by system capability. It called qualitative advantage.

And what do you mean can’t afford new infrastructure? Over $1T in infrastructure spending has already passed Congress with $200-300B allocated to the states.

 

[Predd]

I'm here to take as much money from UK as possible.

It's my right to after the Anglos stole our resources and killed our people.

Living on welfare and council estate housing is your burden, not anyone else's. You are the one contributing your energy to the "dreaded" Anglo society and economy built on colonization and corruption, but you are too dumb to realise that.

Need I remind you Pakistani Americans were hiding like rats after 9/11?

We were not attacked en masse, outside of a few unfortunate hate crimes and occasional racial abuse by ignorant hicks which was overblown to an extent. This is unlike what you lot faced in the UK, which was mostly self warranted due to your own ghetto behaviors.

Pakistanis in UK fought against National Front, Combat 18, BNP, EDL and Britain First. We don't cower like sepoys.

And now UK Pakistanis are the most backwards, bottom feeding scum of society who are despised by everyone, even other British Muslims. Working as low level drones in takeaway shops or running grooming gangs, while dwelling in ghettos and cursing the government while they allow you to act like a bunch of criminal degenerates. What did you gain from it?

I hope you learn to respect your own people and culture above whites.

I have friends and acquaintances from all backgrounds, don't take me as a "coconut" type because I am far from that. I (and other Pakistani Americans) do not need a lecture about "respect" from a community which takes the first four letters of our countries name as abuse.

 

[beijingwalker]

You can’t compare defense systems unless you have access to a platforms system by system capability. It called qualitative advantage.

And what do you mean can’t afford new infrastructure? Over $1T in infrastructure spending has already passed Congress with $200-300B allocated to the states.

lol, less than 3 kilometers long but took over a decade to build costing over 2 billion dollars, you need to pass more bills soon

San Francisco mayor, US house speaker, exuberant crowd celebrate the city's first new subway for more than 40 years

S.F. mayor, US house speaker, exuberant crowd celebrate the city's first new subway for more than 40 years San Francisco recently opened its first new subway in over 40 years, with three new underground stations and one above-ground station joining the Muni Metro T Third line.

defence.pk

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

South east Asian countries have more Chinese than north America and Europe combined,

What does this have to do with every year 10's of thousands of Chinese (for example 40,000+ in 2019) throwing their citizenship's into the toilet to become citizens of the EU...a place where they also have been taught in China that they will be treated like "second class citizens".

Using your perpetual "immigrant country excuse" please explain why thousands of people from the US don't take advantage of the your "immigrant country excuse" and emigrate to the EU and gain EU citizenship???

Maybe the answer is because unlike China 10's of thousands of US citizens don't feel an urgent need to turn their backs on their beloved country and emigrate to a foreign nation forever.

 

[beijingwalker]

What does this have to do with every year 10's of thousands of Chinese (for example 40,000+ in 2019) throwing their citizenship's into the toilet to become citizens of the EU...a place where they also have been taught in China that they will be treated like "second class citizens".

Using your perpetual "immigrant country excuse" please explain why thousands of people from the US don't take advantage of the your "immigrant country excuse" and emigrate to the EU and gain EU citizenship???

Maybe the answer is because unlike China 10's of thousands of US citizens don't feel an urgent need to turn their backs on their beloved country and emigrate to a foreign nation forever.

South east Asian countries have more Chinese than north America and Europe combined, even Myanmar has lots of Chinese, why you are so surprised? China as the world biggest population country for thousands of years tend to expand to go after new job and business opportunities.
China doesn't accept foreigners to become citizens in China, that's why you rarely see foreigners become Chinese, unless they are very talented like top athletes or scientists

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

South east Asian countries have more Chinese than north America and Europe combined, even Myanmar has lots of Chinese, why you are so surprised? China as the world biggest population country for thousands of years tend to expand to go after new job and business opportunities.
China doesn't accept foreigners to become citizens in China, that's why you rarely see foreigners become Chinese, unless they are very talented like top athletes or scientists

..and North and South America has more Europeans than in Asia...does that surprise you?

How is this relevant at all??

But guess what...countries in Asia, South America, Africa, Oceana and Europe or wherever don't have 10's of thousands of Americans becoming their citizens like the Chinese do.

As was shown the number of Americans renouncing their citizenships is negligible..and especially when compared to the Chinese.

Even though other places around the world are "immigrant countries".

How come US citizens aren't taking advantage of these other "immigration countries" as much as the Chinese are???

Maybe the reason is because unlike the Chinese very few Americans find the need to renounce their citizenship and start a completely new life in another country.

China doesn't accept foreigners to become citizens in China,

How is that relevant? We aren't talking about anybody wanting to be Chinese citizens. We are talking about 10's of thousands of Chinese eagerly renouncing their citizenships so they can become happy citizens of countries around the world...meanwhile the US has virtually nobody wanting to be citizens of other countries.

I don't understand why you would think people in the US would suddenly leap to China if allowed if they are already ignoring every other country on the planet.

If the US stopped immigration tomorrow do you think the Chinese would stop becoming citizens of the EU??? I don't think so.

Do you think suddenly 10's of thousands of Americans would start emigrating to other countries?? I don't think so.

 

[beijingwalker]

But guess what...countries in Asia, South America, Africa, Oceana and Europe or whereever don't have 10's of thousands of Americans becoming their citizens like the Chinese do.

As was shown the number of Americans renouncing their citizenships is negligible..and especially when compared to the Chinese.

They and you don't have 1.4 billion people to start with, when you have one fifth of the humanity, you'll have bigger share of the people of every kind. and China almost never accept foreigners to become Chinese, unless you are top athletes or scientists, this is why we see many foreigner talents, including Americans relocate to China. do you prefer to have tens of thousands rednecks or thousands of top talents?

 

[etylo]

..and North and South America has more Europeans than in Asia...does that surprise you?

How is this relevant at all??

But guess what...countries in Asia, South America, Africa, Oceana and Europe or whereever don't have 10's of thousands of Americans becoming their citizens like the Chinese do.

As was shown the number of Americans renouncing their citizenships is negligible..and especially when compared to the Chinese.

Even though other places around the world are "immigrant countries".

How come US citizens aren't taking advantage of these other "immigration countries" as much as the Chinese are???

Maybe the reason is because unlike the Chinese very few Americans find the need to renouce their citizenship.



How is that relevant? We aren't talking about anybody wanting to be Chinese citizens. We are talking about 10's of thousands of Chinese eagerly renouncing their citizenships so they can become happy citizens of countries around the world...meanwhile the US has virtually nobody wanting to be citizens of other countries.

I don't understand why you would think Americans would suddenly leap to China if allowed if they are already ignoring every other country on the planet.

21st century[edit]​

There are quite a number of Americans who want to leave and live outside US too as following shows, considering the US is a developed country and has only 1/4 the population of China:


"Iraq War deserters sought refuge mostly in Canada and Europe, and NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden escaped to Russia.[65][66]

Increasing numbers of Americans retire abroad due to financial setbacks resulting from the 2008 financial crisis.[67]

Young Americans facing a tough job market due to the recession are also increasingly open to working abroad.[68]

According to a Gallup poll from January 2019, 16% of Americans, including 40% of women under the age of 30, would like to leave the United States.[69] In 2018, the Federal Voting Assistance Program estimated a total number of 4.8 million American civilians lived abroad, 3.9 million civilians, plus 1.2 million service members and other government-affiliated Americans.[70]"


American diaspora

Regions with significant populations
Total population
Flag of the United States
9,400,000[1] (2018, est.)
Mexico	1,500,000[2][3]
Canada	1,000,000[4][5]
India	1,000,000[6]
Germany	324,000[7]
Philippines	220,000/300,000–600,000[8][9][10]
Israel and Palestine	200,000[11][12]
France	150,000-200,000[13]
United Kingdom	139,000–197,143[14][15]
Costa Rica	130,000[16]
South Korea	120,000–158,000[17]
China	110,000[18]
Saudi Arabia	80,000[19][20]
Brazil	70,000[21]

Japan 59,172-153,389[22][23] Australia 101,309[24] Pakistan 52,486[25] Italy 50,000–54,000[26]

Emigration from the United States - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[beijingwalker]

21st century[edit]​

There are quite a number of Americans who want to leave and live outside US too as following show:


"Iraq War deserters sought refuge mostly in Canada and Europe, and NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden escaped to Russia.[65][66]

Increasing numbers of Americans retire abroad due to financial setbacks resulting from the 2008 financial crisis.[67]

Young Americans facing a tough job market due to the recession are also increasingly open to working abroad.[68]

According to a Gallup poll from January 2019, 16% of Americans, including 40% of women under the age of 30, would like to leave the United States.[69] In 2018, the Federal Voting Assistance Program estimated a total number of 4.8 million American civilians lived abroad, 3.9 million civilians, plus 1.2 million service members and other government-affiliated Americans.[70]"


American diaspora

Regions with significant populations
Total population
Flag of the United States
9,400,000[1] (2018, est.)
Mexico	1,500,000[2][3]
Canada	1,000,000[4][5]
India	1,000,000[6]
Germany	324,000[7]
Philippines	220,000/300,000–600,000[8][9][10]
Israel and Palestine	200,000[11][12]
France	150,000-200,000[13]
United Kingdom	139,000–197,143[14][15]
Costa Rica	130,000[16]
South Korea	120,000–158,000[17]
China	110,000[18]
Saudi Arabia	80,000[19][20]
Brazil	70,000[21]

Japan 59,172-153,389[22][23] Australia 101,309[24] Pakistan 52,486[25] Italy 50,000–54,000[26]

Emigration from the United States - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

US becomes less and less appealing to the Chinese

Future US will be racially dominated by Mexicans and Indians, whites will become a minority, their culture may also change accordingly.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

21st century[edit]​

There are quite a number of Americans who want to leave and live outside US too as following show:


"Iraq War deserters sought refuge mostly in Canada and Europe, and NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden escaped to Russia.[65][66]

Increasing numbers of Americans retire abroad due to financial setbacks resulting from the 2008 financial crisis.[67]

Young Americans facing a tough job market due to the recession are also increasingly open to working abroad.[68]

According to a Gallup poll from January 2019, 16% of Americans, including 40% of women under the age of 30, would like to leave the United States.[69] In 2018, the Federal Voting Assistance Program estimated a total number of 4.8 million American civilians lived abroad, 3.9 million civilians, plus 1.2 million service members and other government-affiliated Americans.[70]"


American diaspora

Total population
Regions with significant populations
Flag of the United States
9,400,000[1] (2018, est.)
Mexico	1,500,000[2][3]
Canada	1,000,000[4][5]
India	1,000,000[6]
Germany	324,000[7]
Philippines	220,000/300,000–600,000[8][9][10]
Israel and Palestine	200,000[11][12]
France	150,000-200,000[13]
United Kingdom	139,000–197,143[14][15]
Costa Rica	130,000[16]
South Korea	120,000–158,000[17]
China	110,000[18]
Saudi Arabia	80,000[19][20]
Brazil	70,000[21]

Japan 59,172-153,389[22][23] Australia 101,309[24] Pakistan 52,486[25] Italy 50,000–54,000[26]

Emigration from the United States - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Did you read the rest of that wiki article

"Historically, few Americans renounced U.S. citizenship per year, but the numbers drastically increased after 2010 when the U.S. government enacted the Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act, requiring foreign banks to report information on American holders of bank accounts located outside the United States. More than 3,000 Americans renounced U.S. citizenship in 2013, many citing the financial disclosure requirements and difficulty in finding banks willing to accept them as customers.[82] More than 5,000 renounced in 2016, and more than 6,000 did in 2020."

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Meanwhile in 2019 40,000 Chinese renounced their Chinese citizenship in the EU and another 39,000 Chinese renounced their Chinese citizenships in the US...and I'm not including all the other countries like Canada et al. Even taking into account that China has a little over 4 times the population of the US the numbers are still skewed.

 

[etylo]

Did you read the rest of that wiki article

"Historically, few Americans renounced U.S. citizenship per year, but the numbers drastically increased after 2010 when the U.S. government enacted the Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act, requiring foreign banks to report information on American holders of bank accounts located outside the United States. More than 3,000 Americans renounced U.S. citizenship in 2013, many citing the financial disclosure requirements and difficulty in finding banks willing to accept them as customers.[82] More than 5,000 renounced in 2016, and more than 6,000 did in 2020."

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Meanwhile in 2019 40,000 Chinese renounced their Chinese citizenship in the EU and another 39,000 Chinese renounced their Chinese citizenships in the US...and I'm not including all the other countries like Canada et al...

But, many Americans want to live in other countries outside US. US is a developed country and has less than 1/4 the population of China. It might be easier for people from other countries to get US citizenships than for Americans to get many other countries' citizenships.

 

[beijingwalker]

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Meanwhile in 2019 40,000 Chinese renounced their Chinese citizenship in the EU and another 39,000 Chinese renounced their Chinese citizenships in the US...and I'm not including all the other countries like Canada et al. Even taking into account that China has a little over 4 times the population of the US the numbers are still skewed.

In total population proportion, you can argue UK, Canada, Korea.. have way more citizens renouncing their citizenship per capita than Chinese, Chinese are the lowest percentage wise on this whole list.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

It might be easier for people from other countries to get US citizenships than for Americans to get many other countries' citizenships.

Well apparently it is far easier for 40,000 Chinese to renounce their citizenships and join the EU than it is for 10,000 US citizens to renounce their citizenships and join the EU.

 

[beijingwalker]

Well apparently it is far easier for 40,000 Chinese to renounce their citizenships and join the EU than it is for 10,000 US citizens to renounce their citizenships and join the EU.

Going by the latest data, In total population proportion, you can argue UK, Canada, Korea.. have way more citizens renouncing their citizenship per capita than Chinese, Chinese are the lowest percentage wise on this whole list.

 

[etylo]

Well apparently it is far easier for 40,000 Chinese to renounce their citizenships and join the EU than it is for 10,000 US citizens to renounce their citizenships and join the EU.

Again, EU and US are developed countries.