White House Petition for Law Against Blasphemy: Please sign now and spread

[Srinivas]

Why can't u tell ur words to 20 million Hindus working n Islamic gulf countries to earn money.

Go and worship your CCP

 

[regular]

Liberty of one religion cannot be protected by asking others to curb their equal liberties guaranteed by the US Constitution. Therein lies the basic flaw of this petition, and it will go nowhere, as it should not.

The problem is that none of the religion got protected within the US. Their constitution gives liberties but its boundry is not demarcated . So this petition is going to extend the boundary for that liberty and not to curb anybodies liberty as for as the religion is concerned. This is a positive step towards the liberties extension with respect for everybody there.....

 

[VCheng]

The problem is that none of the religion got protected within the US. Their constitution gives liberties but its boundry is not demarcated . So this petition is going to extend the boundary for that liberty and not to curb anybodies liberty as for as the religion is concerned. This is a positive step towards the liberties extension with respect for everybody there.....

Nice spin, but "Freedom of Expression" will trump this hands down.

 

[regular]

Pakistanis out of all people telling us to run our country
You people really do need a reality check!

I guess you need to go checkout the list of people who signed that petition. There are so many christians who signed that petition. So its not the case of Pakistanis there or just the Muslims. The religious liberties of Jews as well as Christians are not protected under the present circumstances.......

Nice spin, but "Freedom of Expression" will trump this hands down.

This petition is the part of your so called freedom of expression my dear friend........

 

[regular]

You have some maturity you will understand that cursing of god does no harm to him. God is capable enough to handle his own problems. We have many instances of people insulting hindu gods in India, very few were people might have reacted. The reaction mostly is filling court cases, hardly we have seen senseless rioting of killing someone who might be Hindu himself. Like what happened in Pakistan, the people killed were Muslims and Pakistani had nothing to do with movie.

That was foolishness to the highest level.

You absolutely right my friend , destruction is another evilness. Thats why the American Muslims are going for the peaceful protest but a mere request for their right under the guidelines of the USA's constitution.We shold help them in their good cause and respect their peaceful initiation of this petition in their democratic system......

 

[VCheng]

I guess you need to go checkout the list of people who signed that petition. There are so many christians who signed that petition. So its not the case of Pakistanis there or just the Muslims. The religious liberties of Jews as well as Christians are not protected under the present circumstances.......


This petition is the part of your so called freedom of expression my dear friend........

Of course, it is an inalienable right to be able to petition the government. That was never in doubt. You can petition on just about anything you want to:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitions

 

[Zabaniyah]

The problem is that none of the religion got protected within the US. Their constitution gives liberties but its boundry is not demarcated . So this petition is going to extend the boundary for that liberty and not to curb anybodies liberty as for as the religion is concerned. This is a positive step towards the liberties extension with respect for everybody there.....

Circular logic

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Karan and other indians tend to show double standards sometimes.....first inquire as to how M.F. Hussain had to flee for his life and settle in UK - because of his art work and APPARENTLY that he inflamed sentiments of hindus

so first look in the mirror before judging others, my friends...

 

[Supply&Demand]

Karan and other indians tend to show double standards sometimes.....first inquire as to how M.F. Hussain had to flee for his life and settle in UK - because of his art work and APPARENTLY that he inflamed sentiments of hindus

so first look in the mirror before judging others, my friends...

But can u show me a single instance where Indians or any group has asked for law against blasphemy against Hindu gods?

 

[lkozhi]

Karan and other indians tend to show double standards sometimes.....first inquire as to how M.F. Hussain had to flee for his life and settle in UK - because of his art work and APPARENTLY that he inflamed sentiments of hindus

so first look in the mirror before judging others, my friends...

Yes we should not have double standards. We should give citizenship to the director of this move like qatar did for m.f.hussain. They are all aritists.
Mirror where is the mirror lets have a look.

 

[Cheetah786]

A humble request to the respected members of the PDF forum from USA or US citizens from around the world either Muslims, Christians Jewish or any religion and ethnicity we need your help.

Please circulate this to as many people you know and send it from as many e-mail addresses per family. Please Follow the link given and put your signatures there as your support for the petition and humanity.
Jazakallah Khair

Here is One Online Petition that we have no excuse for not signing.
The petition is on the "We The People page" of the White House web site.

It Requires 25000 signatures before 17 October 2012. If that signature threshold is met, White House is bound to respond.

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We petition the obama administration to:
Outlaw offending prophets of major religions
To enact a law that prohibits any action or literature that offend prophets of major religions:
- Moses
- Jesus
- Mohammad
Such acts offend billions of people, and cause unrest in the world. Furthermore, acts like this contradict the essence of coexistence and peace among humans. Labeling these acts as freedom of speech is similar to labeling murder as freedom of expression!
We all know the chaos such acts can cause, but it's difficult to answer the question: What do they contribute to our nation, or humanity in general?
Created: Sep 17, 2012


https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/outlaw-offending-prophets-major-religions/94kL1tsN


Mods: please move it to recpective section if necessary

Religion has no place in Governments plus My prophet of Islam was very clear when he gave us this message to forgive

Allah’s Forgiveness:
Allah the Almighty is the most Forgiving. There are many names of Allah given in the Qur’an. Some of which are related to His mercy and forgiveness.

Just as it is important to believe in the mercy and forgiveness of Allah, it is also necessary to base all human relations on forgiveness. How should we expect Allah’s forgiveness while we do not forgive those who do wrong to us?! Forgiving each other, even forgiving one’s enemies is one of the most important Islamic teaching. In the Qur’an Allah has described the Believers as:

“Those who avoid major sins and acts of indecencies and when they are angry they forgive.” Qur'an ( 42:37)

Later in the same Surrah Allah says:

“The reward of the evil is the evil thereof, but whosoever forgives and makes amends, his reward is upon Allah.”Qur'an ( 42:40)

In another Surrahs in the Qur’an, Allah The Almighty says:

“If you punish, then punish with the like of that wherewith you were afflicted. But if you endure patiently, indeed it is better for the patient. Endure you patiently. Your patience is not except through the help of Allah."Qur'an (16:126-127)

Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) said that Allah has commanded him with nine things. One of them he mentioned was “that I forgive those who do wrong to me.”

The Prophet (PBUH) was the most forgiving person. He was ever ready to forgive his enemies. When he went to Ta’if to preach the message of Allah, its people mistreated him, abused him and hit him with stones. He left the city wounded. When he took shelter under a tree, the angel of Allah visited him and told him that Allah sent him to destroy the people of Ta’if because of their sin of maltreating their Prophet. Mohammad (PBUH) prayed to Allah to save the people of Taif, because what they did was out of their ignorance.

He (PBUH) said:

“O Allah, guide these people, as they did not know what they were doing.”

When he entered the city of Mekkah after the victory, the Prophet had in front of him some of his staunchest enemies. Those who fought him for many yea rs, persecuted his followers and killed many of them. Now he had full power to pay back and punish them for their crimes and for what they did to him and to the Muslims. Instead the Prophet (PBUH) asked them:

“What do you think I shall do to you now?” They pleaded for mercy. The Prophet (PBUH) said, “Today I shall say to you what Joseph (referring to Prophet Youssuf (PBUH) as mentioned in the Qur’an, (Youssuf 12:92) Prophet Youssuf (PBUH) said to his brothers, ‘No blame on you today. Go, you are all free.” Soon they all came and embraced Islam at his hands. He forgave even Hind who had caused the murder of his uncle Hamza . After killing him she had his body mutilated and chewed his liver. When she embraced Islam, the Prophet even forgave her.

Message to Pakistanis if you are following the teachings of Our beloved prophet then how about actually following them when you go on to kill the innocent in pakistan cause some lunatic in different nation did some thing you didn't like how is that ISLAM.

If Our beloved prophet can forgive who did wrong to him we are No body To challenge his decisions by going on destruction and killing spree you are doing exactly the opposite of his teachings.

 

[karan.1970]

Karan and other indians tend to show double standards sometimes.....first inquire as to how M.F. Hussain had to flee for his life and settle in UK - because of his art work and APPARENTLY that he inflamed sentiments of hindus

so first look in the mirror before judging others, my friends...

Mate, dont act dense.. There is a load of difference between a mob attacking someone and asking a sovereign govt to declare Islam as a special religion protected from free speech..

If acts of a mob are reflective of a country, then all the adjectives so lovingly heaped upon Pakistan today by western media, due to daily terror attacks and sectarian killings should be taken as absolute truth.. Right??

 

[Cheetah786]

Yes we should not have double standards. We should give citizenship to the director of this move like Qatar did for m.f.hussain. They are all artists.
Mirror where is the mirror lets have a look.

Salman Rushdie was in and out of India after the Fatwa was given against him .

But can u show me a single instance where Indians or any group has asked for law against blasphemy against Hindu gods?

Thats the question only can be asked if Media around the world went after Hindus the same way they are after Muslims Till then oranges and apples.

 

[Sashan]

My reply was to tell you how Jewish lobby, Church and many Hindus think.

Here is a poll which shows what each group think about muslims.


Some 56 percent of Protestants said American Muslims had no sympathy for Al Qaeda, the lowest number of any faith group. By comparison, 63 percent of Catholics and 70 percent of Jews thought Muslim Americans had no sympathies for Al Qaeda.


Muslim Americans are optimistic despite discrimination, new poll says - CSMonitor.com

What you are taking in account is present data and present rate of growth. You are ignoring the predictive models used to understand the situation in a region.

May be you should do some research on Dynamic population, factors leading to growth in population, birth and death rate, immigration and education, economic factors affecting it.

The situation which is you are considering will not be same or the one you provided. We all know the conversion rate of other religion Americans to Muslims.

What you are trying to do here is club muslim population growth factor in US to what you see in India and France. Let me tell me that the muslim population growth is mainly through the immigration and some conversations especially among Afro-americans. But beyond that, I do not disagree with your theory about the demographic changes bringing in cultural impact but do not yet apply that to muslims in US. The demographic change might get noticed say 30 years from now but that is due to not the growth rate of muslim population but due to taking the naturalization route and some conversions of especially Afro-americans. But the same issue is going to arise for other religious people who are more recent immigrants like say hindus. I am contradicting you on your view that the Jewish lobby and general Christian Americans will not allow the petition today for religious reasons. Lets say that the latino illegal immigration is the one which gathers all the attention.

What was the influence of Jews on American policies back in 1945 onwards. Didn't you saw growth of Jews and their increasing population especially in influential sphere.

Entire PDF and others knows the reason behind backing of US to Israel. We also know how Jews uses their media power for their own goals.

So buddy, US was then a land of opportunity as it is now, But try to understand what happens when certain race, sect etc, increases and how it influences foreign policies. Try to understand the propaganda machinery.

The Sociology of Knowledge: Jewish and Muslim Impact on American Social Sciences

"The powerful impact of Jewish scholars is not just on U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East, which is well-known if controversial, but, anterior to policy-making , they have largely shaped the paradigms, the conceptual apparatus, with which most Westerners, approach, perceive, and analyze society in general and the Muslim world in particular. "

John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt · The Israel Lobby: the Israel Lobby · LRB 23 March 2006

The Israel Lobby
By John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt

John Mearsheimer is the R. Wendell Harrison Distinguished Service Professor of Political Science at the University of Chicago.

Interesting read, Just go through the Abstract only. There is another paper by Professor from Harvard University.. Google it and read it too.


Percentage of Jewish Population in America in 2007. ----1.7%
http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2009/tables/09s0074.pdf

Instead of blasting on me, try to look at the bigger picture. A suggestion: Read about Jews in US. Look at their population and their control. See how small percentage of population can drive a powerful nation like US.

No one denies the fact that Jewish lobby is pretty strong and influence the US policies significantly due to their economic clout(like say Kamma Naidus do in Andhra) but let me assure you their and christians' guns are not yet turned on the muslims and again I repeat - today.

Instead of blasting on me

The reason I am little annoyed with you is your attempt to assess my mindset. If you could avoid that you will get a more mellowed response from me.( And I am seeing you trying to pull the same stunt in your response with Gubbi.) What say you??

Another example is Neo-Nazi groups in US. Watch the documentary on increase of these Neo-Nazis and the factors behind their growth.

So I have given you two examples. Lot has changed after 9/11, Iraq, Afghanistan war etc. If you want to ignore the change in perception and present state of mind of people, then let it be. Just because you have few encounters with Muslims in US, doesn't give entire picture. The data is insufficient.

I am not going off topic, this petition is just the start. These are the initial points which people don't take seriously. I know this propagation of protest among population as. I understand the process but most of the people don't just admit the possible scenarios which has very high probability as Denial is easy way out. When one realizes the change and the future impact, they become worried.

I am not against Muslims, I am expressing what is simmering in US. And don't give me return argument that You live in US so you know better.

And what is that increase in neo-nazis you are pointing to? Let me know. The neo-nazis are there and they target not just muslims but even other religious groups but their presence is more prominent in the traditional christian belt which is the South and Midwest but American Law enforcement agencies are better equipped to contain these elements than say Indian law enforcement agencies. These are the agencies which reduced the KKK and Black Panthers to nothing organizations.

I am not going off topic, this petition is just the start. These are the initial points which people don't take seriously. I know this propagation of protest among population as. I understand the process but most of the people don't just admit the possible scenarios which has very high probability as Denial is easy way out. When one realizes the change and the future impact, they become worried.

I am not against Muslims, I am expressing what is simmering in US. And don't give me return argument that You live in US so you know better.

The petition again is not a start - it is a non-starter not for religious reasons or christian and jewish lobbyists but for going against the tenet of the constitution. And the simmering is there not only against the muslims but also Indians due to outsourcing and Latinos for the illegal immigration and afro-americans for the perceived criminal activities but it is not going to impact this petitioning at this time.

Lets stop playing the Nostradamus at this time and wait and watch to see what future has in store for muslims and others in US.

 

[Korean]

At this rate, the White House does not need to answer this petition.

The ones that will be heard.

Help Free D. Randall Blythe From Prage, Czech Republic. Where he is falsely accused of commiting Manslaughter.

Persuade South Korea (the ROK) to accept Japan's proposal on territorial dispute over islets.

Repeal the House of Representatives Resolution 121 to stop aggravating int'l harassment by Korean propaganda & lies!

support the Polish Nation appeal for an international investigation of the Smolensk 2010 air crash

Require free access over the Internet to scientific journal articles arising from taxpayer-funded research.

Remove the monument and not to support any international harassment related to this issue against the people of Japan.

The U.S. Government Must Redress Wrongs Against the Chagossians

Not Allow The FDA To Regulate Premium Cigars