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Which ASEAN Country Will Become The World's Next Manufacturing Hub?

How do you think I feel? Uncle Sam takes $60,000 in taxes from my annual income. Shiet and I can't even vote. LOL!

S'all good tho. I like them Benjaminz tho, baby. LOL

ikr, and i can't even be sure social security will be around when im old lol that said, im perfectly happy paying my fair share, we benefit from the government after all, roads need fixing, children need schooling and laws need upholding.

My thinking is inline with u.s policy. You failed to know that i work for u.s defense industry and i was a vet. A person like you is consider internal threat.

sure you did, and im the pope.
 
ikr, and i can't even be sure social security will be around when im old lol that said, im perfectly happy paying my fair share, we benefit from the government after all, roads need fixing, children need schooling and laws need upholding.



sure you did, and im the pope.

LOL!!!

Bro, screw social security. Invest in IRA, Roth IRA. Social security is pennies brah.

By 50, I wanna have at least $5 million in retirement bank.

LOL
 
sure you did, and im the pope.
Speaking against U.S foreign policy with behavior supporting arm force of country against U.S. Is considered criminal act and is a threat. You better watch out, Uncle Sam agent may knock your door someday. You better sit at where you are and stick to your computer business, or else you will sit behind the bars. An edward snowden is white American U.S. did not spare, what so much of you a yellow chinese low entry computer geek
 
Speaking against U.S foreign policy with behavior supporting arm force of country against U.S. Is considered criminal act and is a threat. You better watch out, Uncle Sam agent may knock your door someday. You better sit at where you are and stick to your computer business, or else you will sit behind the bars.

LOL, you mean to say @CENTCOM may review our posts? No way , Jose!

I totally have my constitutional rights! I'm an America......wait a minute, I'm a Japanese National...errr.

ACLU? Help! Please?

LMFAO.

indeed, i try to do my part for the world here and there(i really like unicef) but i sure enjoy a comfortable lifestyle :D

Hehehe. Amen brah. S'all bout the benjaminz.
 
Speaking against U.S foreign policy with behavior supporting arm force of country against U.S. Is considered criminal act and is a threat. You better watch out, Uncle Sam agent may knock your door someday. You better sit at where you are and stick to your computer business, or else you will sit behind the bars.

anyone readding this would see that you clearly aren't any kind of a former US defence contractor, your clearly lying your teeth off, not only do you know nothing about US policy, you don't even know the very basic rights us citizens enjoy.
 
anyone readding this would see that you clearly aren't any kind of a former US defence contractor, your clearly lying your teeth off, not only do you know nothing about US policy, you don't even know the very basic rights us citizens enjoy.

Well they do read our posts. I know for a
Fact. But right now they're targeting folks who are sympathetic to terrorists.
And I can guarantee you that China and Japan are enemies of extremist religious fanatics and terrorism. Death to terrorists.

:-)
 
Well they do read our posts. I know for a
Fact. But right now they're targeting folks who are sympathetic to terrorists.
And I can guarantee you that China and Japan are enemies of extremist religious fanatics and terrorism. Death to terrorists.

:-)

this is an open forum, anyone can read our posts, we have no expectation of privacy here. nor do i have anything to hide, occasional trolling aside, i standing by everything i said. but of course i am against the mass surveillance on principle.

and terrorist pretty much hate everyone that's not them, ironically that may make them behave more equal than most, race and sex does not come into play! equal amounts of hatred for everyone lol but of course the US is generally their immediate enemy because only the US project power all across the world so it only seems like they hate americans more.
 
Depend on what you mean by world manufacturing hub and depending on nation.

For example, US foreign investment is mainly in Canada, Mexico and South American nations with very little in East/Southeast Asia. A lot of these countries have much higher wages than both East Asia and Southeast Asia, but US factory tends to go to these places because political inclinations.

Similarly, Chinese fixed capital investment (thus the primary manufacturing assets) are 95% domestic and large portion of the remaining 5% is from Hongkong or Taiwan. So vast majority of Chinese manufacturing will move in land instead outward to other nations.

So ASEAN nations are a lot more likely to receive manufacturing investment from EU and Japan than from China or US, but since the latter two accounts for vast majority of the manufacturing on the planet, the term world manufacturing hub is rather misleading.

Of course when talking about Japan and EU, we also need to take into consideration of domestic retention of businesses. A lot of time the government will give its core business groups rather substantial amount of subsidiaries to retain the business so domestic employment doesn't become an issue.

A common misconception is that the rise of major manufacturing hubs are the result of foreign investment in the area. Sure, if the nation's economy is small enough, then foreign investment can accounts for quite a large share of the pie. However, if we are talking about THE world manufacturing hub, it is pretty much automatically means a very large economy. For these economies, the businesses generating these capacity will instead be largely domestic simply because it isn't enough foreign investment in the world to support that kind of large economy. This is the case with both US and Japan in the past and it is the same case with China now. Also, foreign capitals are notoriously volatile as demonstrated in the 97 financial crisis. It is rather contradictory to world manufacturing hub which implies large term stability in the nation.

Basically, if any ASEAN nation wishes to become a major world manufacturing hub, low-wage and foreign investment are not sufficient to do it because it says nothing about the domestic strength of the nation's economy. Worse still, if the domestic industries are not sufficient developed, sudden in-rush of foreign competitors can be devastating.

At the end of the day, if you want to be best, you have to be strong yourself instead of relying on the mercy of others.

Excellent post!
 
Remember your GDP in 1978 before CN beg for economic support from JP-US ?? Just merely more than 100 USD per person,maybe same with VN GDP that time even we were at war with Pol Pot that time

TPP will come out soon. JP-US support you no more. You think your GDP still can higher than VN in the next 10 years?

Actually, the biggest foreign investor to China at the time is Japan, US has limited investment into China (again, because of political inclinations)

日本对华官方发展援助规模透析

Out of the Japanese investment into China from 1979 to 2001, in the span of 22 years, Japan provided China with a grand total of 16.34 billion USD or 710 million per year. And I quote from another site: "GDP of China in 1970 was worth 91 billion US dollars, ranked 8th in the world and was on par with GDP of Canada (87.8 billion US dollars)."
http://kushnirs.org/macroeconomics/gdp/gdp_china.html
In comparison, Vietnam in 2014 was ranked 55th to 57th (depending on the source). China and Vietnam are not even remotely in the same league.

Account for inflation, 710 million USD in 1970 would worth $4.35 billion in 2015, which is about 1/3 of the 2014 revenue of Xiaomi or the construction cost of about 200 km of high speed rail. Basically, it was nice and not an insignificant amount, but still quite small comparing to the domestic output of China.

Of course, More importantly, before Japanese investment into China, China already has a complete industrial base which is capable of producing pretty much anything. Can Vietnam make that claim today?

The real effect of the improvement in China-Japan/US relationship in 1980s isn't any kind of foreign investment or loan. Sure, they are nice, but still rather small comparing to what China already have. The real effect is opening up Japan/US market for Chinese products. (BTW, Vietnam already have this access for decades and look where you are right now)
 
The future will be Eurasia spanning from Lisbon to Hong Kong. That's why China and Russia are busily building the infrastructure connecting this gigantic landmass.

"Who rules East Europe commands the Heartland;
who rules the Heartland commands the World-Island;
who rules the World-Island commands the world."
(Mackinder, Democratic Ideals and Reality, p. 150)

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From the British empire to the US empire of chaos, both tried very hard to get their boots on the heartland and till now failed miserably. China and Russia are working from both sides to control the heartland and usher Eurasia into a prosperous and peaceful future. :) :enjoy:
 
anyone readding this would see that you clearly aren't any kind of a former US defence contractor, your clearly lying your teeth off, not only do you know nothing about US policy, you don't even know the very basic rights us citizens enjoy.
Try support foreign arm force against U.S. You will see what will happen to you. Who is anyone here, fool? you may be bullshiit in here but if your behavior and intention becomes clear, you may expect some will kknock your door.
 
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This sad why no chinese posts this.

1.3 billion people = 1.3 x 10^10 problems for the Chinese government to deal with. LMAO

The future will be Eurasia spanning from Lisbon to Hong Kong. That's why China and Russia are busily building the infrastructure connecting this gigantic landmass.



Heartland.png


From the British empire to the US empire of chaos, both tried very hard to get their boots on the heartland and till now failed miserably. China and Russia are working from both sides to control the heartland and usher Eurasia into a prosperous and peaceful future. :) :enjoy:

You should go home to your China homeland. Seems legit, you don't belong in Germany.
 

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