When will the Muslims in India win their freedom?

[masterchief_mirza]

They had such a big chance to cut India into two by driving a tank battle from both the east and the west in a Soviet style tank invasion...

When did Soviets ever conduct a tank battle from both east and west?? I'm curious as I never heard of such a battle.

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

I studied with Garhwalis and Kumaonis. They are extremely peaceful and happy go lucky people but I was very impressed with their physical stamina. I guess living in the mountains make you very sturdy. For them climbing uphill for 8-10 kms daily is like a walk in the park. I also noticed that us people from the plains were taller than most of them but lacked the stamina for such tasks.

people from around Saket were on average six feet tall 2,000 years back...this was mentioned by both Arrian Indica and the Hou Honshu -----but strange they talked about being cowardly...may be they were too peaceful in those times due to dominance of Buddhism


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Section 16 – The Kingdom of Dongli (Kushan Empire – ‘Eastern Division’).

The main centre of the kingdom of Dongli [‘Eastern Division’] is the town of Shaqi [Saketa]. It is more than 3,000 li [1,247 km] southeast of Tianzhu [Northwest India]. It is a big kingdom. Its products are similar to those of Tianzhu [Northwest India]. There are several tens of major towns whose rulers take the title of king. The Da Yuezhi attacked and subdued it. The men and women are all eight chi tall [about 1.85 m or 6 ft] tall, but are cowardly. They ride elephants and camels when travelling to neighbouring kingdoms. When invaded, they ride elephants to wage war."

 

[El Sidd]

They had such a big chance to cut India into two by driving a tank battle from both the east and the west in a Soviet style tank invasion...but alas their extreme disdain for dark Bengalis meant they never bothered to stock up a thousand odd tanks in East Pakistan...as i see it only two outcomes were possible either India liberating Bangladesh or Pakistan making a two pronged tank battle and cutting India into north and south..but fortunately their extreme racism meant, we won

Bengal is destined to be a singular country with or without military interference.

Over 2000kms of supply line is only possible in Bollywood level of intelligence.

Instead of preaching the pincer movement to Pakistanis, why don't you preach battle of the bulge to the mighty sonar Indians?

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

When did Soviets ever conduct a tank battle from both east and west?? I'm curious as I never heard of such a battle.

no they did it only from the east, but you guys could have gone double on that strategy...but anti Bengali racism put paid to all those plans

 

[proudindian20]

Blocking the internet can stop the spread of both fake news and true news. Just so you are aware.

In the age of Instagram, Snapchat, Facebook etc., Kashmiris are probably happy to not be slave of their mobile phones and interact with each other personally....Think positive dude!

 

[El Sidd]

no they did it only from the east, but you guys could have gone double on that strategy...but anti Bengali racism put paid to all those plans

The same racism against Bengalis is more prevalent in India.

It is a matter of time before mathematics of economics fall towards Dhaka from Calcutta, the Bengalis will rebel against the Indian state by peaceful political means of self determination.

In the age of Instagram, Snapchat, Facebook etc., Kashmiris are probably happy to not be slave of their mobile phones and interact with each other personally....Think positive dude!

Your country is run on WhatsApp messages.

Is this trash talk because you are celebrating 2020 as superpower year or drugs?

you cannot cash any cheques you like writing

at least they could have tried...The thought itself didnot occur to them..great that you mentioned Garwahlis ...They won a substantial number of Victoria crosses in WW2...They tend to get forgotten compared to their illustrious brothers like Marathas,Rajputs,Jats,Sikhs,Gurkhas

Subhash Chandar Bosh flew to Nazi Germany to pledge slavery to the Aryans.

He died on his way back.

 

[proudindian20]

The same racism against Bengalis is more prevalent in India.

It is a matter of time before mathematics of economics fall towards Dhaka from Calcutta, the Bengalis will rebel against the Indian state by peaceful political means of self determination.

Bengalis of India are well aware of Islamization that's happening in Bangladesh...sooner or later it will become Islamic Republic of Bangladesh.

Why would anyone want to give up a secular country and move to an Islamic country that's not even that rich?

 

[masterchief_mirza]

Your problem is that you want to view things as either White or Black. In reality things are shades of Grey.

What crap you spout you hypocrite. You have zero concern for Indian muslims, be they arabised or not.

When it suits you there are "shades of grey" but Pakistani Muslims are "pseudoarabs" and Indian Muslims are your loyal "brothers". Meanwhile, amidst these very black and white absolutist definitions, whatever happens in UP belongs under a miscellaneous file because of the criminality there. Why chat such complete unadulterated shit?

I don't get it. State clearly that the only kind of Muslims you want are the constantly apologising, voluntarily lower than dalit, let's all do Pooja together while you trample our mosques and erase our heritage type. That would avoid any potential "grey" area type misconception on my part.

Jinnah once mentioned words to the effect of: Indian Muslims who rejected pakistan will spend their entire lives proving their loyalty to India. How much foresight this man had is truly amazing. He knew that Indian Muslims would one day literally be filmed handing cheques over to their "Hindu brothers" for "damages caused" during protests in this magical secular democracy. What damages did RSS pay to Muslim families for demolition of Babri masjid and murder of its guardians? Grey areas my bloody foot.

On a side note, India will never ever know what it's like to have such a visionary. You ended up with the racist child abuser and the frustrated philanderer.

 

[El Sidd]

Bengalis of India are well aware of Islamization that's happening in Bangladesh...sooner or later it will become Islamic Republic of Bangladesh.

Why would anyone want to give up a secular country and move to an Islamic country that's not even that rich?

Bangladesh is more secular than India as of 2020.

You are forgetting your own opinion that race has religion beat in India.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

no they did it only from the east, but you guys could have gone double on that strategy...but anti Bengali racism put paid to all those plans

If you're referring to Kursk, which is the major Soviet tank battle of WW2, do you realise the Soviets outnumbered the Germans by nearly 2:1 and had various terrain advantages and were defending their home base from German assault before conducting a counterattack against demoralised forces? How would such conditions ever have arisen in 1971 ind vs Pak?

 

[proudindian20]

What crap you spout you hypocrite. You have zero concern for Indian muslims, be they arabised or not.

When it suits you there are "shades of grey" but Pakistani Muslims are "pseudoarabs" and Indian Muslims are your loyal "brothers". Meanwhile, amidst these very black and white absolutist definitions, whatever happens in UP belongs under a miscellaneous file because of the criminality there. Why chat such complete unadulterated shit?

I don't get it. State clearly that the only kind of Muslims you want are the constantly apologising, voluntarily lower than dalit, let's all do Pooja together while you trample our mosques and erase our heritage type. That would avoid any potential "grey" area type misconception on my part.

Jinnah once mentioned words to the effect of: Indian Muslims who rejected pakistan will spend their entire lives proving their loyalty to India. How much foresight this man had is truly amazing. He knew that Indian Muslims would one day literally be filmed handing cheques over to their "Hindu brothers" for "damages caused" during protests in this magical secular democracy. What damages did RSS pay to Muslim families for demolition of Babri masjid and murder of its guardians? Grey areas my bloody foot.

On a side note, India will never ever know what it's like to have such a visionary. You ended up with the racist child abuser and the frustrated philanderer.

You clearly have some kind of issue. There's not point explaining shades of Grey to someone who can only look at things from Black & White lense.

Evil Indian Hindus vs Poor Oppressed Indian Muslims. Right?

And if Jinnah was such a visionary then why are you sitting comfortably in a Secular Western country spouting nonsense against a Secular Asian country? Why not move back to Jannat on earth i.e. Pakistan?

Bangladesh is more secular than India as of 2020.

You are forgetting your own opinion that race has religion beat in India.

Let me know where can I buy the measurement tape for measuring Secluar-ness of a country. I want to check the measurement for Canada.

 

[El Sidd]

Let me know where can I buy the measurement tape for measuring Secluar-ness of a country. I want to check the measurement for Canada.

Probably in Cox Bazar. You can find almost everything there.

As i said the Bengali polar shift to Bangladesh has already begun.

You can let them go peacefully and workout economics before things turn way way sour

 

[masterchief_mirza]

You clearly have some kind of issue. There's not point explaining shades of Grey to someone who can only look at things from Black & White lense.

Evil Indian Hindus vs Poor Oppressed Indian Muslims. Right?

And if Jinnah was such a visionary then why are you sitting comfortably in a Secular Western country spouting nonsense against a Secular Asian country? Why not move back to Jannat on earth i.e. Pakistan?

You do know Jinnah was educated in England right? You are aware of that right?

As for your grey, black, white matter, I fully understand the meanings of such terms. What I don't get is your contradictions of your own argument. You claim shade of grey this shade of grey that, yet summarily dismiss Pakistani Muslims as "pseudoarabs" and Indian Muslims as folks who wish to be your "brothers". It's you who doesn't really understand what you yourself are saying.

 

[proudindian20]

You do know Jinnah was educated in England right? You are aware of that right?

As for your grey, black, white matter, I fully understand the meanings of such terms. What I don't get is your contradictions of your own argument. You claim shade of grey this shade of grey that, yet summarily dismiss Pakistani Muslims as "pseudoarabs" and Indian Muslims as folks who wish to be your "brothers". It's you who doesn't really understand what you yourself are saying.

Looks like you don't understand the meaning of "Partition".

Partition itself is bi-polar in nature. How is there possibility of shades of grey when the process itself is bi-polar? Whereas I'm comparing the police shooting incident in UP to shades of grey because you can't just say oh it's just Hindu police vs Muslim protesters.

Hope you understand the difference now.

Probably in Cox Bazar. You can find almost everything there.

As i said the Bengali polar shift to Bangladesh has already begun.

You can let them go peacefully and workout economics before things turn way way sour

Thanks. I'll check out Cox Bazaar for one.

 

[El Sidd]

Thanks. I'll check out Cox Bazaar for one.

Don't get lost in the swamps.