Why? We were suppose to be middle income country 2015. Now we here it is 2021. Are we ever going to have a stable country, where each political party will respect each political party. Where no one will die because of hatret. In the time of Prophet Muhammad (S) muslims and non-muslims lived side by side. Why muslims are seen in Bangladesh as an agressors? Why non-muslims are victims of pity-politics? Bangladesh always been hospitable. All faith lived happy with each other. Why this now? Lets pray that bangladeshis live with the blessings of Allah. May Allah guide bangladeshis and save bangladesh, and punish the real culprits may it who be.
When all these going to end (The anarchy of bangladesh Politics)?
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I see the main culprits here is jamat.
They first started all this violence to ruin our country.
They have real problem with name of BD, with its flag, with its independence and it cant tolerate BD's growth.
For some culprits of 5 to 6 ppl they want a war against BD. A party which has no contribution to BD how can they show so much power of destruction.
AL and BNP two modest parties of BD. They may be corrupt but they always think in the sake of BD.
AL and BNP hasnt got any difference. But this party jamat made the difference between them.
For this one treated as pro independence and other anti independence power.
Now if there is no jamat ppl can choose wisely who does what and whom we support.
But jamat will always try to keep the difference between these two mainstream parties so that it can be benefited.
For sake of our country we need these two parties to work together.
For that if we have to sacrifice this holy cow jamat than be it.
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I read the article. Its a total joke, by an idiot Indian who is claiming Jamati's to be Deobandi's, where as the two do not get along due to ideological differences.
Bangladeshi public need more lessons with Indian intervention so they can get rid of Indian agents in our soil (regardless of their religious belief and identity) and not vote for them in elections. For learning these lessons, I welcome Indian invasion and more and more interference.
Its also great to see Indians finally using Israeli media, further proof that zionists and Indian Hindutva are collaborating to damage global Muslim interest.
Bangladeshi public need more lessons with Indian intervention so they can get rid of Indian agents in our soil (regardless of their religious belief and identity) and not vote for them in elections. For learning these lessons, I welcome Indian invasion and more and more interference.
Its also great to see Indians finally using Israeli media, further proof that zionists and Indian Hindutva are collaborating to damage global Muslim interest.
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if we don't act now, we will be finished....you serious on what you said?
Yes. I despise each and every Bangladeshi who work for Awami League and vote for them. Please don't blame India, they are stupid and they do what they feel is in their best interest, and they get it wrong because they are stupid. But our stupids hurt us more, because our AL stupids enable the Indian stupids to hurt us. So we need more suffering and lessons. 1971, 1972-1975, 1996-2001, 2009-today, has not been enough to wake us up about AL.
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only blaming india and exposing india can reunite Bangladesh....for example we pdf bangladeshis fight, be it bal and bnp folks, when the indians troll, we generally unite and troll them back...you have to blame an outside element to get out of the current situation.
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if we don't act now, we will be finished....you serious on what you said?
This is really nothing comparing to what her dad and brothers did.
Hasina's brotherS were like Saddam Hossain's kids.
Good riddance.
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@aazidane
Are you planning to paint Hindostan as the aggressor against "defenceless" Bangladeshis intent on self-defence and preservation of their rights?
Are you planning to depict the truth - that Hindostanis are disgusting lowlives and liars, to mention a few- as depicted by that article in the Jewish paper that you have mentioned?
Are you panicking and willing to raise awareness about Hindostan's nefarious actions in Bangladesh through various overt and covert means over the years?
Are you aware that Hindostan is merely using the same 'rhetoric' that Americans used a few years ago on their way to assaulting as much of the Muslim world as they could? Do you expect 'help' from these same disgusting creatures against Hindos?
As I have said, even many of the well travelled and more learned Bangladeshis are so shorn of strategic knowledge and strategic affairs, they fail to see that PRC is the one and only country - not explosion struck Pakistan, not the infidel decadent and declining West, not oil rich deserts, nor illiterate urine drinkers - that can act as Bangladesh's 'major ally' - the unflinching, 'brotherly' ally, if I might call it that - because of so many reasons way too numerous to mention, that I will jot down only a few for the alert and inquisitive amongst the Bangladeshi members to figure out the rest.
1. China (as well as occupied Japan) has historically provided Bangladesh lots of 'unconditional' aid in infrastructure development (bridges, Bangladesh-China friendship conference centre, scholarships for students etc), without interfering in the internal politics or policies (e.g. it does not care whether Bangladesh implements Shariah or not, whether Bangladesh is Islamic or not, whether such or such parties assume power or not, whether alcohol is banned or not in public, whether it adheres to some artificially constructed 'moderate' version of religion or not etc), so it stands out from the rest of the 'powers' that many illiterate, short-sighted and ignorant Bangladeshis wrongly take 'orders' from (viz. Western world, illiterate urine drinkers etc)
2. China, alongside Russia, is one of the only two non-Western countries in the world capable of providing the full spectrum of weapons systems to Bangladesh, and capable of designing and mass-producing any conventional and unconventional weapons systems that any country in the world would like to consider the mainstay of any branch of their armed forces.
Except one Western country, which has been at the forefront of the anti-Islam crusade since the last decade and played a crucial role in bringing BAL to power (and also got duly 'deceived' by Hindo-BAL axis in return), no Western country by itself can match China at present, and in the next 4-5 years, probably, no single Western country will be able to match China in any significant measure of aggregate power.
Illiterate urine drinkers, oil rich desert dwellers or bombed out nationalities can not match China in any of the important indices of aggregate national power.
3. Russian relative military and global geopolitical standing is on the decline. It is not the USSR, nor will it enjoy the privileged position it gained on account of succeeding the USSR since 2001 onwards in the near future. Its economic output is lower than that of Brazil, Germany or UK, for comparison.
In short, for the foreseeable future, apart from some trade and useful weapons transfers, Russia will of tertiary importance to Bangladesh.
4. In view of all these facts, Bangladesh must pitch in with the 'Chinese camp', no two ways about it. The gargantuan Chinese market, worth over 51 trillion Yuan, or $8.3 trillion, in 2012, and set to rise further, alone can allow Bangladesh's GDP to rise at double digit growth rates (in real terms) for multiple decades if we bag some lucrative trade deals with China (something which China has also pressed BD for, but BAL - true to its Hindostani origin and Hindostani pandering nature - has continued to drag its feet around).
5. If we do side with the "Chinese camp", then we can edge out any Hindostani misadventure very easily.
6. Even if worst comes to worst, and the dastardly, backstabbing, urine drinkers dare to invade, should the "Chinese supply line" remain open during the war, it is conceivable that Bangladesh can expand to include all of the "North Eastern seven sisters" and lay waste to "Waste Bengal".
Notice, that if we lay waste to "Waste Bengal" and annex the "seven sisters", then, we do not share any land borders with the world's largest hell hole any more, so they have no way of confronting us on land, any more, to put it very simply.
7. The above outline is only a contingency plan for the short term should the highly delusional Hindutva radicals dare to conduct any misadventure.
8. In the case that these Hindutva radicals' current machinations are foiled, and Bangladesh emerges triumphant against the evil designs of Brahminist-Dhoti-clad-terrorists intent on creating a terrorist "Ram Rajya", then I would suggest a rapid reinvigoration of Bangladesh's economic, diplomatic (with China, oil rich countries, Iran and the likes - only for surface to surface missile technology transfers, and major ASEAN countries like Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia and others but excluding Burmese tree dwelling junta), military and strategic affairs.
A generalized outline for reinvigoration of numerous important spheres of activities:
(I) Economic:
Double digit (real) growth rate will be aimed at, favourable trade agreements should be signed with China, and ASEAN countries together or major ASEAN economies bilaterally, if possible, the same goes for oil rich desert kingdoms, and other isolated pockets of wealth that can not hope to play any malicious influence in our internal affairs - so that rules out USA, which has played its malicious hand in bringing BAL to power by siding with Hindostanis, and got doublecrossed by BAL in return.
Investment friendly climate must be created, bureaucracy simplified, and devolution of power to divisions will probably have to be ensured. In that way, more economic and other activities will invigorate the peripheral regions like Chittagong, Sylhet, Rajshahi, Barisal, Jessore, Comilla, Cox's Bazar, to name a few places. It will also reduce the stress on Dhaka metropolitan city. "Never put all your eggs in one basket" - and so we should not. Thus, more than two international airports should be activated in these Divisional cities, more than one major port outside Chittagong should be created so that we have more than one options, transport and logistics network should be invested heavily on, power generation ought to be high on the agenda, and RELATIONS WITH HINDUSTAN OUGHT TO BE SEVERED as a buffer against all their machinations.
Once we cut all relations with Hindostan, and make it a criminal offence to conduct any deals with them, it will be orders of magnitude more difficult for Hindostan to play its nefarious hands in Bangladesh through its paid agents and a tiny minority whose loyalty is questionable.
(II) Diplomatic:
Relations with China prioritized. Reinforce our military, raise our military budget rapidly by more than 100% for the first two years. Considering our defence budget is even lower than Burmese budget, and so much lower than Hindostani budget even on a per capita basis, on the basis of expenditure as a % of government budget or as a % of GDP, we would not be overspending on military any time soon in any case.
Induct 4 squadrons of J-10B from China, with all Chinese subsystems, promptly. Raise the number of active troops to well over 600,000. Even tiny Burmese employ about 500,000 troops, so employing 600,000 active troops should be 'child's play' for us with more than 160 million people, once we raise our budget to $5-6 billion within the next two years.
Raise a separate Air Defence Command, as a separate branch of the armed forces, with around 20,000 to 25,000 units. Form a multi-layered network of AD comprising of AD guns, and SAM systems mostly from China, and some of the less 'strategic' ones possibly from Russia at cheaper, knock off rates and modernized at Ukraine/elsewhere.
Develop a modern navy of 75,000 to 90,000 active units. This is essential because if you take a look at Bangladesh's map, it is only at the naval arena where the enemy can possibly concentrate about 70-80% of her forces against Bangladesh. The enemy can never concentrate more than 40% of her armed forces against Bangladesh on the ground, or in the air, so we can confidently beat them up if we develop our military more or less in line with what I have outlined. Procure six diesel-electric submarines, and maybe a couple of guided missile destroyers from PRC at 'friendship prices' to end the Brahminist dhoti-clad fanatics' fantasies.
And, do not forget ballistic and land attack cruise missiles. Herein comes China once again, though if Iran does manage to transfer any designs and technologies (no complete systems needed) for SSM, that would be wonderful too. We know that Iran can develop SSM with a range of at least 4,000 km already, and all that we need is less than 2,000 km ranged SSM to hit any region in any of our enemies' backyard.
"Never put all your eggs in one basket", and so we should not. Therefore, not to lean way too much on the Dragon's shoulder, we should spread our wings and soar towards rising powerhouse Indonesia for strengthening our economic, scientific, industrial, military, religious and maybe even cultural exchange. Strengthen relations with Thailand to surround the tree dwelling junta - so they will be surrounded by Bangladesh, China, Thailand and sea on all sides. Tough luck to the tree dwellers! Malaysia is a model for economic, scientific and industrial development in some ways for BD as well, and as our coreligionists, should also gain favours in our active diplomacy.
(III) Military:
Discussed above in section (II)
(IV) Strategic:
Inaugurate a 'strategic' command for the unstated aim of delivering unacceptable damage to any enemy hiding as far away as at least 2000 km away from us. That's the most I am willing to write in the public sphere, but that's not all we should aim to achieve.
Before some amateurs start rambling about MTCR (which Bangladesh has never ratified), or USA's evil intentions (which we all know does exist) to deny Bangladesh the right to self defence against any enemies, it should be be remembered that none of these developments or procurements should be conducted in 100% transparent manner, and USA is in the decline, China is already a peer-competitor, and within the next 4-5 years, China will probably surpass the USA in all important official indicators of aggregate power.
Even more pertinently, if we close ranks with the Chinese, we may expect them to reciprocate on a quid pro quo basis by blocking any resolution the evil Americans may bring against Bangladesh for developing our deterrence capabilities against radical, fanatic Hindutva terrorists like Shiv Sena, BSF, RAW, Bajran Dal, RSS, etc or tree dwelling, outcast junta. Likewise, in regions close enough to China (like Bay of Bengal - Bangladesh's backyard), China can rightly be expected to outmaneuvre the Americans.
The mere show of flag by a Chinese naval flotilla escorted by submarines and probably a carrier task force may be sufficient to deter any American misadventure for any escalation could lead to unforeseen circumstances.
Thus, I foresee Bangladesh's independence and progress in aligning closely with resurgent PRC set to claim its stake as the world's most powerful country in the coming years, in all probability, if things go as expected.
Are you planning to paint Hindostan as the aggressor against "defenceless" Bangladeshis intent on self-defence and preservation of their rights?
Are you planning to depict the truth - that Hindostanis are disgusting lowlives and liars, to mention a few- as depicted by that article in the Jewish paper that you have mentioned?
Are you panicking and willing to raise awareness about Hindostan's nefarious actions in Bangladesh through various overt and covert means over the years?
Are you aware that Hindostan is merely using the same 'rhetoric' that Americans used a few years ago on their way to assaulting as much of the Muslim world as they could? Do you expect 'help' from these same disgusting creatures against Hindos?
As I have said, even many of the well travelled and more learned Bangladeshis are so shorn of strategic knowledge and strategic affairs, they fail to see that PRC is the one and only country - not explosion struck Pakistan, not the infidel decadent and declining West, not oil rich deserts, nor illiterate urine drinkers - that can act as Bangladesh's 'major ally' - the unflinching, 'brotherly' ally, if I might call it that - because of so many reasons way too numerous to mention, that I will jot down only a few for the alert and inquisitive amongst the Bangladeshi members to figure out the rest.
1. China (as well as occupied Japan) has historically provided Bangladesh lots of 'unconditional' aid in infrastructure development (bridges, Bangladesh-China friendship conference centre, scholarships for students etc), without interfering in the internal politics or policies (e.g. it does not care whether Bangladesh implements Shariah or not, whether Bangladesh is Islamic or not, whether such or such parties assume power or not, whether alcohol is banned or not in public, whether it adheres to some artificially constructed 'moderate' version of religion or not etc), so it stands out from the rest of the 'powers' that many illiterate, short-sighted and ignorant Bangladeshis wrongly take 'orders' from (viz. Western world, illiterate urine drinkers etc)
2. China, alongside Russia, is one of the only two non-Western countries in the world capable of providing the full spectrum of weapons systems to Bangladesh, and capable of designing and mass-producing any conventional and unconventional weapons systems that any country in the world would like to consider the mainstay of any branch of their armed forces.
Except one Western country, which has been at the forefront of the anti-Islam crusade since the last decade and played a crucial role in bringing BAL to power (and also got duly 'deceived' by Hindo-BAL axis in return), no Western country by itself can match China at present, and in the next 4-5 years, probably, no single Western country will be able to match China in any significant measure of aggregate power.
Illiterate urine drinkers, oil rich desert dwellers or bombed out nationalities can not match China in any of the important indices of aggregate national power.
3. Russian relative military and global geopolitical standing is on the decline. It is not the USSR, nor will it enjoy the privileged position it gained on account of succeeding the USSR since 2001 onwards in the near future. Its economic output is lower than that of Brazil, Germany or UK, for comparison.
In short, for the foreseeable future, apart from some trade and useful weapons transfers, Russia will of tertiary importance to Bangladesh.
4. In view of all these facts, Bangladesh must pitch in with the 'Chinese camp', no two ways about it. The gargantuan Chinese market, worth over 51 trillion Yuan, or $8.3 trillion, in 2012, and set to rise further, alone can allow Bangladesh's GDP to rise at double digit growth rates (in real terms) for multiple decades if we bag some lucrative trade deals with China (something which China has also pressed BD for, but BAL - true to its Hindostani origin and Hindostani pandering nature - has continued to drag its feet around).
5. If we do side with the "Chinese camp", then we can edge out any Hindostani misadventure very easily.
6. Even if worst comes to worst, and the dastardly, backstabbing, urine drinkers dare to invade, should the "Chinese supply line" remain open during the war, it is conceivable that Bangladesh can expand to include all of the "North Eastern seven sisters" and lay waste to "Waste Bengal".
Notice, that if we lay waste to "Waste Bengal" and annex the "seven sisters", then, we do not share any land borders with the world's largest hell hole any more, so they have no way of confronting us on land, any more, to put it very simply.
7. The above outline is only a contingency plan for the short term should the highly delusional Hindutva radicals dare to conduct any misadventure.
8. In the case that these Hindutva radicals' current machinations are foiled, and Bangladesh emerges triumphant against the evil designs of Brahminist-Dhoti-clad-terrorists intent on creating a terrorist "Ram Rajya", then I would suggest a rapid reinvigoration of Bangladesh's economic, diplomatic (with China, oil rich countries, Iran and the likes - only for surface to surface missile technology transfers, and major ASEAN countries like Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia and others but excluding Burmese tree dwelling junta), military and strategic affairs.
A generalized outline for reinvigoration of numerous important spheres of activities:
(I) Economic:
Double digit (real) growth rate will be aimed at, favourable trade agreements should be signed with China, and ASEAN countries together or major ASEAN economies bilaterally, if possible, the same goes for oil rich desert kingdoms, and other isolated pockets of wealth that can not hope to play any malicious influence in our internal affairs - so that rules out USA, which has played its malicious hand in bringing BAL to power by siding with Hindostanis, and got doublecrossed by BAL in return.
Investment friendly climate must be created, bureaucracy simplified, and devolution of power to divisions will probably have to be ensured. In that way, more economic and other activities will invigorate the peripheral regions like Chittagong, Sylhet, Rajshahi, Barisal, Jessore, Comilla, Cox's Bazar, to name a few places. It will also reduce the stress on Dhaka metropolitan city. "Never put all your eggs in one basket" - and so we should not. Thus, more than two international airports should be activated in these Divisional cities, more than one major port outside Chittagong should be created so that we have more than one options, transport and logistics network should be invested heavily on, power generation ought to be high on the agenda, and RELATIONS WITH HINDUSTAN OUGHT TO BE SEVERED as a buffer against all their machinations.
Once we cut all relations with Hindostan, and make it a criminal offence to conduct any deals with them, it will be orders of magnitude more difficult for Hindostan to play its nefarious hands in Bangladesh through its paid agents and a tiny minority whose loyalty is questionable.
(II) Diplomatic:
Relations with China prioritized. Reinforce our military, raise our military budget rapidly by more than 100% for the first two years. Considering our defence budget is even lower than Burmese budget, and so much lower than Hindostani budget even on a per capita basis, on the basis of expenditure as a % of government budget or as a % of GDP, we would not be overspending on military any time soon in any case.
Induct 4 squadrons of J-10B from China, with all Chinese subsystems, promptly. Raise the number of active troops to well over 600,000. Even tiny Burmese employ about 500,000 troops, so employing 600,000 active troops should be 'child's play' for us with more than 160 million people, once we raise our budget to $5-6 billion within the next two years.
Raise a separate Air Defence Command, as a separate branch of the armed forces, with around 20,000 to 25,000 units. Form a multi-layered network of AD comprising of AD guns, and SAM systems mostly from China, and some of the less 'strategic' ones possibly from Russia at cheaper, knock off rates and modernized at Ukraine/elsewhere.
Develop a modern navy of 75,000 to 90,000 active units. This is essential because if you take a look at Bangladesh's map, it is only at the naval arena where the enemy can possibly concentrate about 70-80% of her forces against Bangladesh. The enemy can never concentrate more than 40% of her armed forces against Bangladesh on the ground, or in the air, so we can confidently beat them up if we develop our military more or less in line with what I have outlined. Procure six diesel-electric submarines, and maybe a couple of guided missile destroyers from PRC at 'friendship prices' to end the Brahminist dhoti-clad fanatics' fantasies.
And, do not forget ballistic and land attack cruise missiles. Herein comes China once again, though if Iran does manage to transfer any designs and technologies (no complete systems needed) for SSM, that would be wonderful too. We know that Iran can develop SSM with a range of at least 4,000 km already, and all that we need is less than 2,000 km ranged SSM to hit any region in any of our enemies' backyard.
"Never put all your eggs in one basket", and so we should not. Therefore, not to lean way too much on the Dragon's shoulder, we should spread our wings and soar towards rising powerhouse Indonesia for strengthening our economic, scientific, industrial, military, religious and maybe even cultural exchange. Strengthen relations with Thailand to surround the tree dwelling junta - so they will be surrounded by Bangladesh, China, Thailand and sea on all sides. Tough luck to the tree dwellers! Malaysia is a model for economic, scientific and industrial development in some ways for BD as well, and as our coreligionists, should also gain favours in our active diplomacy.
(III) Military:
Discussed above in section (II)
(IV) Strategic:
Inaugurate a 'strategic' command for the unstated aim of delivering unacceptable damage to any enemy hiding as far away as at least 2000 km away from us. That's the most I am willing to write in the public sphere, but that's not all we should aim to achieve.
Before some amateurs start rambling about MTCR (which Bangladesh has never ratified), or USA's evil intentions (which we all know does exist) to deny Bangladesh the right to self defence against any enemies, it should be be remembered that none of these developments or procurements should be conducted in 100% transparent manner, and USA is in the decline, China is already a peer-competitor, and within the next 4-5 years, China will probably surpass the USA in all important official indicators of aggregate power.
Even more pertinently, if we close ranks with the Chinese, we may expect them to reciprocate on a quid pro quo basis by blocking any resolution the evil Americans may bring against Bangladesh for developing our deterrence capabilities against radical, fanatic Hindutva terrorists like Shiv Sena, BSF, RAW, Bajran Dal, RSS, etc or tree dwelling, outcast junta. Likewise, in regions close enough to China (like Bay of Bengal - Bangladesh's backyard), China can rightly be expected to outmaneuvre the Americans.
The mere show of flag by a Chinese naval flotilla escorted by submarines and probably a carrier task force may be sufficient to deter any American misadventure for any escalation could lead to unforeseen circumstances.
Thus, I foresee Bangladesh's independence and progress in aligning closely with resurgent PRC set to claim its stake as the world's most powerful country in the coming years, in all probability, if things go as expected.
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You guys give India and RAW too much credit.
You are on same path that Pakistan took. Have a happy journey. At least it will make Indian Govt. to tighten our borders with BD and taking action against illegal Bangladeshis. I wish Bangladesh try to cause trouble in India, we might force our govt. to expel all these immigrants.
You are on same path that Pakistan took. Have a happy journey. At least it will make Indian Govt. to tighten our borders with BD and taking action against illegal Bangladeshis. I wish Bangladesh try to cause trouble in India, we might force our govt. to expel all these immigrants.
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Great. Continue reading.
Wonderful. Continue reading.
Do not panic. That only strengthens your enemies, and weakens your own resolve. You have the right to be anxious, but you should calm your nerves by all means possible, lest you make incalculable mistakes.
Fantastic. Continue reading.
@aazidane
Yes, indeed, as I have mentioned, there is a real reason why Bangladesh needs to align completely with the PRC - set to be the strongest single country in the near future, probably, Muslim countries in the East and the West should be 'invited' to exert more behind-the-scenes pressure on BAL, and active lobbying and diplomatic efforts should be made in Western corridors as well to isolate the India-BAL axis.
I agree that there is no need to publicly alienate the West but there is no need to pay them much attention either. All we need to do regarding them is enlarge the split that India-BAL axis has created between them and the West. The likes of Dr Muhammad Yunus should be convinced, if possible, to speak out against BAL misrule indirectly (without appearing to take on any political colours), about unprecedented level of mass-murder and against the violations of Islamic sanctities.
Not sure how many of these will be achieved, but if achieved, I think a lot of 'hurdles' in the way of India-BAL axis will be created from the 'Western' (world) front. Draw in China and the major oil rich Muslim countries, Malaysia and Indonesia as well to lend some more diplomatic credibility and weight to the claims of 18 party alliance led 160 million Bangladeshis believing in Islam and all its sanctities.
Hindostani-BAL axis should be more or less helpless in that regard.
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