What's the status of China's Bo Wang , the ISIS member ?

[TankMan]

They are being underestimated - I agree.

But they are NOT SOME PSYCHO CULT. They are not mentally sick or anything. In fact they think us to be psychos for not subscribing to their way. Their ideology is not entirely political either. Had it been so, they would have focused on consolidation and some form of arrangement. Maybe getting some limited recognition as a State or some rudimentary diplomacy.


That will be super! You can start with naming and shaming ISIS supporters.

According to Islam, they are psycho murderers who will be punished in this life and the next.
Their ideology is entirely political. If they were really religious, they wouldn't do any of the things they have done. Who do you expect them to consolidate with?? Right now they have the momentum and enough people to fight for them, they don't need to negotiate. Their political agenda is power.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

According to Islam, they are psycho murderers who will be punished in this life and the next.
Their ideology is entirely political. If they were really religious, they wouldn't do any of the things they have done. Who do you expect them to consolidate with?? Right now they have the momentum and enough people to fight for them, they don't need to negotiate. Their political agenda is power.

Everything is fine, I am not saying I disagree with you in a big way. But your point - 'ideology is entirely political. If they were really religious, they wouldn't do any of the things they have done' is the same as their idea about you (who have not moved there to fight for them)
For them, you are the 'munafiqs' (sorry, no offence). So it's tricky.

 

[TankMan]

Everything is fine, I am not saying I disagree with you in a big way. But your point - 'ideology is entirely political. If they were really religious, they wouldn't do any of the things they have done' is the same as their idea about you (who have not moved there to fight for them)
For them, you are the 'munafiqs' (sorry, no offence). So it's tricky.

For some of them perhaps, but most of them (atleast the higher-ranking ones) know exactly what they are doing. The ones who aren't really aware of Islam's teachings are being manipulated, while the ones who do know about Islam are violating every rule.
I understand what you mean to say and I don't entirely disagree with it either. I am aware of and against people manipulating my faith to do horrible things.

Peace.

 

[amygdaloideum]

That's a plausible theory. Thats what happens when superpowers fund so many proxy terror groups, the Middle east especially has been through so much that someone like ISIS can take advantage of it.

ISIS were smart and took advantage of it, recruiting fighters from everywhere. Though I'm sure majority of these fighters know they're not fighting for "Islam".


And here comes the Indian Muslim bashing: "Silent Majority", "Muslims support ISIS". What do you wan't me to do, pull an AK out of my knickers and start killing ISIS??

dont get all touchy.
I may even buy if someone argues that they are not muslims,
but if someone believes most of them are not fighting for religion,well good for you then

 

[Cheetah786]

Everything is fine, I am not saying I disagree with you in a big way. But your point - 'ideology is entirely political. If they were really religious, they wouldn't do any of the things they have done' is the same as their idea about you (who have not moved there to fight for them)
For them, you are the 'munafiqs' (sorry, no offence). So it's tricky.

I prefer the word infidel 'munnafiq' is not cool enough, thank you very Much.

 

[Rechoice]

problem is for China when Uighur terrorist is joined to ISIS and trained there,

 

[xesy]

I thought they called themselves IS now. They got members from all around the world.

What I found strange is that certainly Western media painted IS the bad guy, but if they are that bad how come they gain so many followers and supporters? Sure they are a violent group, but using violence they can take and terrorize cities, but they can't hold cities that way for long. Maybe there are something about them that hasn't been told. Still the Iraqi govt and army are pretty useless to be down played by a bunch of armed terrorists.

 

[tonyget]

I thought they called themselves IS now. They got members from all around the world.

What I found strange is that certainly Western media painted IS the bad guy, but if they are that bad how come they gain so many followers and supporters? Sure they are a violent group, but using violence they can take and terrorize cities, but they can't hold cities that way for long. Maybe there are something about them that hasn't been told. Still the Iraqi govt and army are pretty useless to be down played by a bunch of armed terrorists.

one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter

 

[kobiraaz]

I thought they called themselves IS now. They got members from all around the world.

What I found strange is that certainly Western media painted IS the bad guy, but if they are that bad how come they gain so many followers and supporters? Sure they are a violent group, but using violence they can take and terrorize cities, but they can't hold cities that way for long. Maybe there are something about them that hasn't been told. Still the Iraqi govt and army are pretty useless to be down played by a bunch of armed terrorists.

They use Islam and They remain within Islam. I will make it clear for you. Depending on situations Muhammad pbuh acted differently. On one hand, he executed poets for writing erotic poem about muslim women , on the other hand he forgave an entire community who persecuted his family for 7 years resulting in death of his beloved wife and uncle. Now IS follows the harshest examples , leaving softer examples aside.

So it remains politically correct in the eye of people who watch them and in turn most of them remain loyal.

 

[Falcon29]

They use Islam and They remain within Islam. I will make it clear for you. Depending on situations Muhammad pbuh acted differently. On one hand, he executed poets for writing erotic poem about muslim women , on the other hand he forgave an entire community who persecuted his family for 7 years resulting in death of his beloved wife and uncle. Now IS follows the harshest examples , leaving softer examples aside.

So it remains politically correct in the eye of people who watch them and in turn most of them remain loyal.

Which poets are you speaking of? That's not true brother, the story was a forgery.

 

[BoQ77]

Don't know, a long time no that guy news.

Is there any chance, Chinese Han members of ISIS already stayed in China ?

 

[HariPrasad]

ISIS attracts psychos from all over the world. Heck, I don't think many of them are even Muslim, they're just in it for the "murder everyone" part.

No it is Islam+Frustration+ to some extent poverty is perfect background to become member of ISIS.

 

[kobiraaz]

Which poets are you speaking of? That's not true brother, the story was a forgery.

Ka'b ibn al-Ashraf - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[AgentOrange]

The US would do much to improve Sino-American relations if they saved China the trouble by "neutralizing" this Bo Wang assclown.

 

[Falcon29]

Ka'b ibn al-Ashraf - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It was because he signed a non-aggression treaty with the few Muslims at the time. He kept inciting war against them and the Prophet(SAW). Going against 4 conditions of treaty. And at the time it was normal to battle it out, he didn't battle it out but kept inciting from other places.