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What's Behind Russia's Stance on Syria?

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Amid grisly images of slaughter coming almost daily out of Syria, Russia’s continued refusal to sanction United Nations action against embattled President Bashar al-Assad’s regime has seen it face a barrage of Western criticism.

The Russians “are telling me they don't want to see a civil war. I have been telling them their policy is going help to contribute to a civil war," U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said on Thursday, in just the latest attack on Moscow’s stance. Earlier this year, both the United States and Britain accused Russia of having blood on its hands over its support for Assad.:blah:

Russia has twice vetoed proposed UN resolutions against Syria and has made it abundantly clear that it will block any attempt to seek Security Council approval for a foreign military intervention in the troubled Middle Eastern country.

And this position showed no signs of significant change even after last Friday’s massacre of over 100 men, women and children in the Syrian town of Houla, an atrocity the UN believes was at least partly the work of a shadowy militia group loyal to Assad.

Syria has long been, of course, one of Russia’s strongest allies in the Middle East, and a reliable purchaser of Russian weapons. The Syrian port of Tartus also hosts the Kremlin’s only naval base outside the former Soviet Union. But is this all that lies behind Russia’s apparent willingness to leave itself open to allegations that it is propping up a bloodthirsty dictator?

“The Kremlin’s deeply held view of sovereignty as an unlimited right for political regimes to do as they please inside their states is one of the cornerstones of Russian foreign policy, and it has been especially dominant since the war in Libya,” wrote Moscow-based radio Kommersant FM commentator in a column for RIA Novosti earlier this week.

“[President Vladimir] Putin feels that the West duped Russia into de facto sanctioning international intervention in Libya, and seemingly vowed never to let it happen again,” he added.

Russia abstained from the March 2011 UN Security Council vote on the resolution that led to the use of force against forces loyal to Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi, but was later critical of the extent and severity of NATO airstrikes.

“Russia saw what happened after the West’s military intervention in Libya, Iraq, Somalia and Afghanistan and so on,” said Yevgeny Satanovsky, head of the Moscow-based Institute of the Middle East. “The Russian authorities might not be angels, but they are very pragmatic and they understand that if you fail once, twice, three times, a fourth time you have to be absolutely crazy to do it again.”

“Russia has some interests in Syria, but they are not particularly insignificant,” he added, dismissing with a laugh the strategic importance of the Tartus naval base.

Putin’s return to the Kremlin earlier this month saw fears in the West of a worsening of ties with Russia, apprehensions seemingly borne out by current tensions over Syria. But some analysts believe Putin’s reluctance to acquiesce UN action against Assad stems more from domestic concerns raised by recent unprecedented anti-Kremlin protests.

“Syria is a vital part of Putin’s domestic policies,” said Alexander Shumilin head of Moscow’s Center for the Greater Middle East Conflicts. “He promised to protect Syria from what he says is Western aggression during his presidential election campaign and he doesn’t want to back down from that now, especially after the recent demonstrations.”

And Shumulin said heavy state control over national television channels meant there was little chance of public opinion turning against the Kremlin, ever after massacres such as the one in Houla.

“Most people in Russia believe what state television tells them, that the massacre is Houla was carried out by terrorists and the West is trying to blame it all on Assad,” he said. “Confrontation with the West over Syria is part of the strongman image Putin is trying to project to a domestic audience.”

But Russia’s objections might not protect Assad for long. Washington’s envoy to the UN, Susan Rice, said on Wednesday that the most likely solution to the crisis was that Western powers and their allies would act on Syria without UN approval. Rice did not specify what actions she meant, but with little scope left for sanctions, her words brought closer the prospect of unilateral military action against the Assad regime.

By striking Syria, however, the United States and its allies would be going against the wishes of the Syrian-based opposition to Assad.

While the foreign-based Syrian opposition movement, the Syrian National Council, has called for outside military intervention to end the bloodshed, the internal opposition is vehemently against the use of foreign troops or air forces to bring a halt to the more-than-year-long conflict.

“Many people in Syria don’t like Russia’s position at all, but that’s not to say they want to see foreign military intervention,” said Yusuf, a Syrian journalist working in Moscow who did not want to give his surname. “We all saw how many people were killed by NATO bombs in Libya.”

“But a lot of people feel that Russia isn’t doing enough to pressure Assad and that the Kremlin’s support gives him carte blanche to do as he likes,” he added.

“Russia has lost many friends in Syria. The Soviet Union helped build up infrastructure across the Middle East in the 1970s, when the West turned its back on Arabs. We were always taught that the Soviet Union was a friend to oppressed peoples. That’s why I was shocked when I saw crowds in Syria burning the Russian flag. This is a first. But Russia needs to pressure Assad more and to be seen doing so by the Arab world.”

Yusuf also suggested despite growing calls for intervention, the West had no real appetite for war in Syria.

“Russia’s stance is actually very convenient for the West,” he said. “They know how costly an invasion of Syria would be and can blame their inaction on Russia and China.”

Russia’s policy of non-intervention was backed by Dr Imad, another Moscow-based Syrian professional and one who hails from the region around Houla.

“I fully support Russia’s position on Syria,” he said. “Foreign military intervention in Syria would lead to a catastrophic war in Syria that would be dangerous not only for the entire Middle East region, but also for the whole world.”

“It’s not important who is president. What is important is to bring all the sides to the negotiating table and stop the violence – and this is only possible without foreign military intervention.”

But even if the West does ignore the UN and strike Syria, if may find it will wish it hadn’t, Eggert wrote in his RIA Novosti column.

“The Kremlin will never sanction a Security Council resolution authorizing the use of force,” he wrote. “But, as a senior Russian diplomat told me a few weeks ago, ‘If the West wants to burden itself with Syria, well, we cannot prevent it from doing so. But the Western countries will then be wholly responsible for the outcome.’”

What's Behind Russia's Stance on Syria? | Features, Opinion & Analysis | RIA Novosti
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US/UK & EU are in position to create another Pro-Washington Al-Q and using same strategy "Spread terrorism and then protect from terrorism"

They are Devils of the world in actual.
 
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US/UK & EU are in position to create another Pro-Washington Al-Q and using same strategy "Spread terrorism and then protect from terrorism"

They are Devils of the world in actual.

Not correct. The devils of the world are the dictators who kill their own people. Little devils are those who cheer them on ....
 
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one could equally ask what is behinds america's stance in syria?


they push civil war and bloodshed onto people only to their detriment, but they insist its based on human concerns, why do people still allow the us to get away with this BS?

just look at libya, once a prosperous country is reduced to civil war, when was the last time libya was in the news - dumped like a used condom.
 
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Ediot Al'Assad would have declared the UN backed presidential election in the March 2011 when the first wave of protests started but Dictators only apart from power by death or banishment..
 
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Not correct. The devils of the world are the dictators who kill their own people. Little devils are those who cheer them on ....

the problem is these devil killed less people compare to USA and NATO in past decades ( Iraq and Afghanistan and Pakistan and Libya and .... )
 
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How cute, Russia's foreign policy is now determined by human rights!
Of course access to the Mediterranean has nothing to do with it.
 
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the problem is these devil killed less people compare to USA and NATO in past decades ( Iraq and Afghanistan and Pakistan and Libya and .... )

Also not correct. Think Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Kim Il Sung, Kim Jong Il, Saddam Hussein, Gadafyi, Assad Sr. and Jr., Milosevich, etc. Millions and millions killed. And, 95% of those thousands killed in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Libya were killed by their own countrymen or outside Muslim jihadis, not by NATO or the USA.
 
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How cute, Russia's foreign policy is now determined by human rights!
Of course access to the Mediterranean has nothing to do with it.


so what if russia is protecting its interests, its ONLY protecting its interests and they are required to do so for the russian people.

this is altogether different to pushing civil strife and chaos in ANOTHER nation, insisting on regime change, implementing imperialism through fake humanitarianism.


the russian position is the most amicable, the us position is more blood shed.
 
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so what if russia is protecting its interests, its ONLY protecting its interests and they are required to do so for the russian people.

this is altogether different to pushing civil strife and chaos in ANOTHER nation, insisting on regime change, implementing imperialism through fake humanitarianism.


the russian position is the most amicable, the us position is more blood shed.
Yes, I was just clarifying their BS.
Both positions increase blood shed.
With or without the US, the protests will continue.
 
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Afghanistan, Pakistan and Libya were killed by their own countrymen or outside Muslim jihadis, not by NATO or the USA.



this is absurd logic.


the US insisting on bringing war into these countries and therefore is morally responsible for the consequences of the war they created in these nations.

war by its very nature will bring more violence and bloodshed, and the US opened the floodgates. there is also ample proof that it fueled the bloodshed aswell, so also holds direct responsibility.


aside from that the US is also DIRECTLY responsible for tens of thousands of deaths (not quibbling on numbers, its an obscene amount), as well as numerous outrages, insults and obscenities.

Yes, I was just clarifying their BS.
Both positions increase blood shed.
With or without the US, the protests will continue.

how does the russian position INCREASE bloodshed?

its the US who is covertly funneling weapons into syria, sending trouble makers and provocateurs to cause trouble.

as far as i can tell, all reporting should be viewed with extreme skepticism, the only one clear point is that there must be an end to violence which means BOTH parties must relent - the russian position.
 
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this is absurd logic.

My statement wasn't "logic". It was simply a fact. Do you dispute the fact that the overwhelming majority of deaths in these Muslim countries that were cited have been at the direct hands of other local Muslims, or Muslims who flocked there to achieve martyrdom for themselves? If "floodgates" were opened by the fall or removal of dictators, then those "floodgates" were holding back the rage of a people who had been terrorized. It is not the "fault" of the USA or NATO that these societies could not behave rationally to the removal of their tormentors. It is not the fault of the USA or NATO that Islamic extremists are Islamic extremists.
 
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My statement wasn't "logic". It was simply a fact. Do you dispute the fact that the overwhelming majority of deaths in these Muslim countries that were cited have been at the direct hands of other local Muslims, or Muslims who flocked there to achieve martyrdom for themselves? If "floodgates" were opened by the fall or removal of dictators, then those "floodgates" were holding back the rage of a people who had been terrorized. It is not the "fault" of the USA or NATO that these societies could not behave rationally to the removal of their tormentors. It is not the fault of the USA or NATO that Islamic extremists are Islamic extremists.


most of these attacks and bombs have not verifiable and traceable perpetrator, in other words wheres the detailed investigation that backs your claims up?

so i cant give credence to your theory that its "muslims killing muslims" or "pent up rage" - its just your theory. these societies never had this type of destruction before, only after the war, so its simple cause and effect, the cause is war to a nation, the effect is death to the people.


if you bring about war to a country then you accept the direct and indirect consequences, because war by its nature has direct and indirect consequences, that responsibility is with the decision the US FORCEFULLY made - dont ever forget that, the US insisted on this.
 
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My statement wasn't "logic". It was simply a fact. Do you dispute the fact that the overwhelming majority of deaths in these Muslim countries that were cited have been at the direct hands of other local Muslims, or Muslims who flocked there to achieve martyrdom for themselves? If "floodgates" were opened by the fall or removal of dictators, then those "floodgates" were holding back the rage of a people who had been terrorized. It is not the "fault" of the USA or NATO that these societies could not behave rationally to the removal of their tormentors. It is not the fault of the USA or NATO that Islamic extremists are Islamic extremists.
But America has supported ruthless Arab dictators in the past in their effort to suppress Islamism. No?
Bashar's father, Hafiz Alassad killed 20,000 Syrians in Hama 30 years ago with approval of US, just one example.
Watch the first minute.
 
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How cute, Russia's foreign policy is now determined by human rights!
Of course access to the Mediterranean has nothing to do with it.

Russia access Mediterranean through
1) Gibraltar
2) Bosphorus
 
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