What would happen if KMT ruled over China after 1949?

[Beidou2020]

Without CPC, China would be a slavishly subservient vassal state to the US just like Japan, South Korea, India, Britain, France.

Being a great power is having an independent foreign policy. If you are told what to do and do it like a slave, then you are not a great power no matter how rich you are.

Japan was a great power before WW2 because it had an independent foreign policy, but now it is nothing but a sad joke pretending to be a country.

It is because the CPC is in charge that China WILL surpass the US to become the most powerful nation on this planet. I don't see any other country that can surpass China.

China is not just rich and powerful now, but it has an independent foreign policy which only Russia and US have.

KMT are a bunch of Western-*** kissing losers. No wonder they got their *** kicked by the CPC.

China with the CPC in charge is America's very worst nightmare as China is the only country that can surpass the US in economy, financially, technologically, military.

India cannot because its rulers take orders from Washington DC and happy to be semi-vassal of the West by doing its dirty work. It has no desire to have an independent foreign policy.
Russia cannot because it's population is too small and is economically just not good enough.
Japan cannot because its a vassal state.
Indonesia and Brazil are too small and too stupid.

China is the only one with population size, economic capability, technological capability, military capability, financial capability to challenge the US. To challenge the US, you must have an independent foreign policy, which China has. Russia too has an independent foreign policy but its population and economy are too small.

Without an independent foreign policy, you have no hope to challenge the US and become a rule maker.

China can do this because CPC gave China an independent foreign policy.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

WOW.....I never knew that. Hopefully China can have more cultural revolutions to make its culture even more superior/advanced.

Xi Jinping has already started a new 'cultural revolution'.

But this time is a bit different from the original, since it is only aimed at the high rank officials and the rich princeling families.

China will become healthier when we do get rid of those rich scums.

 

[Beidou2020]

9. Do you think the US would allow a vassal to surpass itself? What planet are you living?

15. China would end up like India if it was KMT in charge.

These 2 points are 100000% correct.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

These 2 points are 100000% correct.

@Speeder 2 is quite delusional and sound a lot like those Indian ultra-nationalists.

He uses to think that the Chinese is a divine race and can become a superpower from the thin air.

He didn't see that China has ascended into a superpower because of CPC's great leadership, not everyone can achieve this brilliant job. CPC has earned every right to rule China.

The Chinese race isn't superior over other races, but we are quite lucky to have a heroic protagonist-like entity such as CPC to rule over us, and if CPC isn't Chinese, but German, then the future could belong to Germany, if Indian, then the future could belong to India.

Now they happen to be Chinese, so we should appreciate this godly given gift.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Well if you were not part of the 'rich scums', you wouldnt have left your country to for a better life in Canada , while leaving MOTHER China. Have faith in your country like MAO did, afterall he never went abroad for something.

Most Chinese will go back to China in the future, and i will go back as well.

Mao didn't need to go abroad, but he already possessed the vision that can foresee the future.

A superficial Anglo-Saxon ultra-nationalist such as yourself couldn't even touch the hair of a great leader with wisdom like Mao.

 

[rcrmj]

what would it like when Martian ruled China after 1949??
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[Beast]

@Speeder 2 is quite delusional and sound a lot like those Indian ultra-nationalists.

He uses to think that the Chinese is a divine race and can become a superpower from the thin air.

He didn't see that China has ascended into a superpower because of CPC's great leadership, not everyone can achieve this brilliant job. CPC has earned every right to rule China.

The Chinese race isn't superior over other races, but we are quite lucky to have a heroic protagonist-like entity such as CPC to rule over us, and if CPC isn't Chinese, but German, then the future could belong to Germany, if Indian, then the future could belong to India.

Now they happen to be Chinese, so we should appreciate this godly given gift.

CPC is on way to become the greatest Chinese empire surpassing Han, Tang and Ming Dynasty.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Without CPC, China would be a slavishly subservient vassal state to the US just like Japan, South Korea, India, Britain, France.

Being a great power is having an independent foreign policy. If you are told what to do and do it like a slave, then you are not a great power no matter how rich you are.

Japan was a great power before WW2 because it had an independent foreign policy, but now it is nothing but a sad joke pretending to be a country.

It is because the CPC is in charge that China WILL surpass the US to become the most powerful nation on this planet. I don't see any other country that can surpass China.

China is not just rich and powerful now, but it has an independent foreign policy which only Russia and US have.

KMT are a bunch of Western-*** kissing losers. No wonder they got their *** kicked by the CPC.

China with the CPC in charge is America's very worst nightmare as China is the only country that can surpass the US in economy, financially, technologically, military.

India cannot because its rulers take orders from Washington DC and happy to be semi-vassal of the West by doing its dirty work. It has no desire to have an independent foreign policy.
Russia cannot because it's population is too small and is economically just not good enough.
Japan cannot because its a vassal state.
Indonesia and Brazil are too small and too stupid.

China is the only one with population size, economic capability, technological capability, military capability, financial capability to challenge the US. To challenge the US, you must have an independent foreign policy, which China has. Russia too has an independent foreign policy but its population and economy are too small.

Without an independent foreign policy, you have no hope to challenge the US and become a rule maker.

China can do this because CPC gave China an independent foreign policy.

CPC is extremely brilliant because they know how to exploit the advantage of the capitalism, but meanwhile to control over them and won't allow them to usurp the political power like they did in the western countries.

Putin also wants to do the exact same thing as CPC did, but only Russia is not big enough with the manpower as you said.

 

[Beast]

Well if you were not part of the 'rich scums', you wouldnt have left your country to for a better life in Canada , while leaving MOTHER China. Have faith in your country like MAO did, afterall he never went abroad for something.

My friend, why are you so hostile to Chinese? You have already join our Chinese camp by forsaken US in AIIB saga. All we need is another apology and return of looted items will fully formalized Sino- british r/s and China will protect little Britain in anytime

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

I have a very simple question:

In society, we judge a person's future capabilities by their past achievements.

For example, if someone was failing 10th grade math, you would not expect them to be good at calculus.

So why is it that the KMT, which was an abject failure for all 37 years that it has been on mainland China (measured by economic growth rate, population growth rate, literacy improvement, average lifespan and intellectual property generated), is assumed to be able to turn it all around under the exact same conditions, in the next 37 years?

 

[Beast]

CPC is extremely brilliant because they know how to exploit the advantage of the capitalism, but meanwhile to control over them and won't allow them to usurp the political power like they did in the western countries.

Putin also wants to do the exact same thing as CPC did, but only Russia is not big enough with the manpower as you said.

CPC is smart to exploit the greed of Americans to defeat them. It's the US dollar that killed Soviet Union not nuke, bomb or tank.

China is using the same old trick of trade to defeat US.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

My friend, why are you so hostile to Chinese? You have already join our Chinese camp by forsaken US in AIIB saga. All we need is another apology and return of looted items will fully formalized Sino- british r/s and China will protect little Britain in anytime

His government is more pragmatic and not delusional as him.

CPC is smart to exploit the greed of Americans to defeat them. It's the US dollar that killed Soviet Union not nuke, bomb or tank.

China is using the same old trick of trade to defeat US.

CPC is also using the capitalism's efficiency to boost the economy with the socialist government regulation, since they won't let the capitalism's greed to take over.

Against the US, sure they are using the tactic to economically bundle themselves together with the US, so there is nothing the US could do against them.

I have a very simple question:

In society, we judge a person's future capabilities by their past achievements.

For example, if someone was failing 10th grade math, you would not expect them to be good at calculus.

So why is it that the KMT, which was an abject failure for all 37 years that it has been on mainland China (measured by economic growth rate, population growth rate, literacy improvement, average lifespan and intellectual property generated), is assumed to be able to turn it all around under the exact same conditions, in the next 37 years?

According to @Speeder 2, KMT is a divine entity and the truly heaven heir of China.

CPC sucks because it has surpassed the US yet, and KMT would just accomplish this like a piece of cake.

I wonder why he loved to make fun at the Indians, but when himself is even much worse at bragging.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

1. There is nothing wrong with the Marxism, and the western capitalism whom you strongly support now has by more more ties with the Zionism than the Marxism/Communism.

2. The US will still ally with Japan to contain its biggest enemy at the time USSR, regardless China is blue or red.

3. The Korean war is a must, and China cannot risk its national security at expense. The US was extremely hostile to PRC, and threatened to nuke us if we don't want to kowtow, then what do you expect?

4. Same here, a pro-US ROV is no better than the Vietcong.

5. Heck no, without CPC's effort to earn its right to become a powerhouse, nobody would give a sh1t about China when you are weak and powerless.

6. Nope, the US will preserve these guys for their own national interests at the top priority, regardless China is blue or red.

7. Again, Cultural Revolution was not entire negative, since you are not Chinese, of course you won't understand its purpose.

8. Freedom of speech my a$$, just look at Iraq/Syria/Libya/Ukraine, too much of freedom eh?

9. Do you think the US would allow a vassal to surpass itself? What planet are you living?

10. Again, the delusion as usual, and you sound more and more like those Indian ultra-nationalists.

11. lol, haven't you ever learned the history about the government who sold out Outer Mongolia?

12. Yeah, USSR would lose, but China would forever become a vassal, so the US would dominate forever.

13. Japan would remain as the little brother of the US, and both China and Japan would be the vassals of the US.

14. I will go back to China in the future, but you , just stay in where you belong to.

15. China would end up like India if it was KMT in charge.



Even KMT won, the island will still be disputed, since the Anglo-Saxons always love to play the divide and conquer game in Asia.

Let's the Asians killed each others, so they can never become a threat to us.

Your little dirty tactic is not working today, because the China led by CCP has become overwhelmingly stronger even you are unwilling to admit.

China can take back those island whenever she wants, but we have the patience to maximize our goal, the later the stronger we are, the better for us.

For the sake of argument let's assume the KMT is still in power

1) Moot, KMT in power
2) The US would ally with BOTH China and Japan. Just like it has allied with Taiwan all these years.
3) The Korean War simply wouldn't have happened. The KMT wouldn't have supported Russia and North Korea since you would have no interest in Communism. You probably would have helped the South.
4) You wouldn't have supported Vietnam. You would have prevented any Russian support too.
5) Japan probably wouldn't have been supported nearly as much we would have supported you guys instead to reign in Russia.
6) Ok, I'll give you this one about the war criminals
7) Cultural Revolution is a wash. Good with the bad.
8) The KMT were not saints on free speech in the beginning but they softened up in the 70's. So just a little earlier.
9) It seems very country on this planet that isn't standing with Russia or China is a US vassal state in your eyes.
10) You probably would have got the islands back. The US certainly would care less about who owns them.
11) The US would have supported you on any land issues with Russia.
12) If the Soviets collapsed decades earlier the US would not have spent as much on its military.
13) Again your vassal centric stuff is silly. With Russia's collapse there would be no need for "vassals"
14) People would probably go to China about as much as they go to Taiwan and Japan (whatever that is)

15) Even if the KMT sucked and took forever to get the economic ball rolling the previous 14 still would have happened.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

All hail Mao the great GOD..

Mao himself is no God, even many Chinese view him as God.

BTW, he made a lot of mistakes as well, this is true, but his ideology always remains godly in our eyes.

For the sake of argument let's assume the KMT is still in power

1) Moot, KMT in power
2) The US would ally with BOTH China and Japan. Just like it has allied with Taiwan all these years.
3) The Korean War simply wouldn't have happened. The KMT wouldn't have supported Russia and North Korea since you would have no interest in Communism. You probably would have helped the South.
4) You wouldn't have supported Vietnam. You would have prevented any Russian support too.
5) Japan probably wouldn't have been supported nearly as much we would have supported you guys instead to reign in Russia.
6) Ok, I'll give you this one about the war criminals
7) Cultural Revolution is a wash. Good with the bad.
8) The KMT were not saints on free speech in the beginning but they softened up in the 70's. So just a little earlier.
9) It seems very country on this planet that isn't standing with Russia or China is a US vassal state in your eyes.
10) You probably would have got the islands back. The US certainly would care less about who owns them.
11) The US would have supported you on any land issues with Russia.
12) If the Soviets collapsed decades earlier the US would not have spent as much on its military.
13) Again your vassal centric stuff is silly. With Russia's collapse there would be no need for "vassals"
14) People would probably go to China about as much as they go to Taiwan and Japan (whatever that is)

15) Even if the KMT sucked and took forever to get the economic ball rolling the previous 14 still would have happened.

BTW, KMT is an utter failure and unfit to rule over China.

So there is no such butterfly effect as the assumptions you mentioned here above.

 

[Beidou2020]

For the sake of argument let's assume the KMT is still in power

1) Moot, KMT in power
2) The US would ally with BOTH China and Japan. Just like it has allied with Taiwan all these years.
3) The Korean War simply wouldn't have happened. The KMT wouldn't have supported Russia and North Korea since you would have no interest in Communism. You probably would have helped the South.
4) You wouldn't have supported Vietnam. You would have prevented any Russian support too.
5) Japan probably wouldn't have been supported nearly as much we would have supported you guys instead to reign in Russia.
6) Ok, I'll give you this one about the war criminals
7) Cultural Revolution is a wash. Good with the bad.
8) The KMT were not saints on free speech in the beginning but they softened up in the 70's. So just a little earlier.
9) It seems very country on this planet that isn't standing with Russia or China is a US vassal state in your eyes.
10) You probably would have got the islands back. The US certainly would care less about who owns them.
11) The US would have supported you on any land issues with Russia.
12) If the Soviets collapsed decades earlier the US would not have spent as much on its military.
13) Again your vassal centric stuff is silly. With Russia's collapse there would be no need for "vassals"
14) People would probably go to China about as much as they go to Taiwan and Japan (whatever that is)

15) Even if the KMT sucked and took forever to get the economic ball rolling the previous 14 still would have happened.

KMT in charge of China mean that China loses its independent foreign policy and becomes a vassal to the US.

Having no independent foreign policy means you lose your sovereignty to another country.

China will not accept this.

China doesn't care if the US like China or not, China's aim is to surpass the US, not take orders from the US or anyone else.

China, being a massive country has no reason whatsoever to give up its independent foreign policy to be 'liked' by the US.

China will do what it wants, when it wants.

End of story!