What the hell is happening with Sweden?

[Saho]

 

[bsruzm]

Video ends with "something new - the new country" and a proud, glorious looking Muslim girl

 

[damm1t]

The rest of the world is not as civilised as Northeners so Swedes will possibly regret this new country thing so bad

 

[Dirtdiver]

This is unfortunately no different than French surrender at WW2. Now it's the Swedes surrendering against immigrants, yet they still try to find some goodness in the evil. What a beautiful country it was, I hope that doesn't happen even if the outcome is what some might call racist or fascist, in fact everyone having problems with refugees need it today

 

[xenon54 out]

Why are only Turks posting here?

 

[xyxmt]

Why are only Turks posting here?

because Turks have to take Europe back, eventually

 

[UKBengali]

What is wrong with video?

Integration works both ways as natives need to also be sensitive to needs
of immigrants.

 

[flamer84]

Suicide of a nation.

Also coming to a place near you,if you live in Europe.

 

[bsruzm]

Why are only Turks posting here?

It's like "koy dötüne gitsin!" logic, I think?

Also coming to a place near you,if you live in Europe.

You live there

 

[Baybars Han]

Suicide of a nation.

Also coming to a place near you,if you live in Europe.

Europe is finished in 20-30 years and its not Islam that is going to finish it. Have a think who is going to destroy it. Hint- think of USA.
Islam is very broad from the Bosnians in Europe to the indonesians which all have different cultures etc.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Why are only Turks posting here?

Payback for criticism by our FM, I guess.
Personally I don't see much difference.
Beggars from Eastern Europe are more of a nuiscance.

Our budget for talking care of refugees is twice that of all UN agencies doing the same,
so maybe I should take notice.

 

[Jungibaaz]

I don't see anything wrong with that. The Swedes have a lot more going for them than most countries.
This is partly inevitable with a globalised world, successful nations will either become so with demographic changes or slowly trend towards said changes eventually. It's probably better to step up the integration process then waste your time raging against the world order.

As for the Europe doomsdayers above, Europe should be fine if economic stagnation is dealt with. What will regress Europe isn't the presence of immigrants in itself, but the response of the people and the surge of far right.

 

[Dirtdiver]

I don't see anything wrong with that. The Swedes have a lot more going for them than most countries.
This is partly inevitable with a globalised world, successful nations will either become so with demographic changes or slowly trend towards said changes eventually. It's probably better to step up the integration process then waste your time raging against the world order.

As for the Europe doomsdayers above, Europe should be fine if economic stagnation is dealt with. What will regress Europe isn't the presence of immigrants in itself, but the response of the people and the surge of far right.

But don't you think that Europe yet does not have a certain, precise response for immigrants? It still is swimming in gray waters.

 

[Broccoli]

The plan is (or was) that immigrants from poor countries do all the messy jobs what locals don't want but the problem is that many immigrants do not want those jobs... so EU governments are basically growing numbers of unemployed people by allowing mass immigration.

Millions of unemployed young men around the Europe are going to cause lot of problems in future.

 

[Jungibaaz]

But don't you think that Europe yet does not have a certain, precise response for immigrants? It still is swimming in gray waters.

It's not as simple as people are making it out to be. The wave of refugees, from Africa and the Middle East is a problem for sure. But it ought to be a problem for the international community, not just neighbouring Lebanon, Turkey, Egypt, Jordan and the rest of Europe.

Also, the issue of the refugee crisis in Europe is being overplayed. What Europe should be doing is lobbying to make the Middle East, all countries in the EU, the US and the developed world all take their fair share. Instead a lot of effort is channelled into taking frustrations out on the European Union and its structure. It should be working to end the conflict and facilitate migrants/refugees in neighbouring countries as best it can.

As for the usual change in immigration, separate from the refugee crisis. In Europe, especially western Europe, you have to understand... there are TWO issues, both which predate the refugee crisis. Both are positions of the European right against immigration:

1. They oppose immigration from non-EU states, who come over and change the demographic make up, I am one such example of said people living the UK.
2. They also oppose immigration from within the EU. The EU was founded on the principles of free movement, and that means that people living in Eastern Europe will tend towards Western Europe for the higher living standard, wages and employment.

In the UK for example, a lot of xenophobic shit was said against Poles, Bulgarians and Romanians by the people that backed Brexit.

Here's the catch though, Western Europe in particular and the UK, actually need migrants now more than ever. Their economies are stagnating, their economic output is hardly changing and sometimes falling in real terms. Aggregate demand in Europe is so weak that central banks have ran out of ideas for boosting it, interest rates are still rock bottom.
Yet the far right, like the UKIP/Brexit types push for little to no immigration which if implemented at this time would trigger immediate economic depression. They ignore all sanity and reasoning and Europe's working class follows them like turkeys voting for Christmas.

Europe needs to improve its economic conditions, and getting lower immigration would have the opposite effects. It needs to deal with both the far right and Eurosceptic movements as well as the refugee crisis in a two-pronged effort. If it can't do that, it needs to find some way to reconcile the anti-immigration movement in Europe, otherwise the European project will implode, and the first stone was cast with Brexit.

The plan is (or was) that immigrants from poor countries do all the messy jobs what locals don't want but the problem is that many immigrants do not want those jobs... so EU governments are basically growing numbers of unemployed people by allowing mass immigration.

Millions of unemployed young men around the Europe are going to cause lot of problems in future.

This isn't true though, Europe's economic woes were caused by the financial crisis, the destruction of investments in the German banking sector which dominates Europe, following the destruction of the Anglo-Saxon banks. The downturn in all of Europe, and the deep depressions in Iceland, Ireland, Spain and Greece. And then the absurd EU policies of never ending austerity on states like Greece as a roundabout way of bailing out banks based in Frankfurt. The failure of monetary measures and the ECB to bolster demand. The weakness of trading partners in countries like China etc.

These, are the economic issues that have caused/are causing unemployment in Europe and disgruntled Europeans. Some people have wrongly blamed immigrants for causing these issues. Immigrants cause pressure on the system, this is true. And I agree that Europe needs to fix its economy asap, but blaming immigrants is useless. Halting immigration will in fact make Europe's unemployment issues worse, not better.