What option does Turkey have if CAATSA blocks GE F110 engine sale to Turkey?

[cabatli_53]

Can you give me source of semiconductor chipset of Turkey? What node size lithography is it using? 180nm, 90nm? Semiconductor is a very difficult area and requires lot of R&D. It is the most difficult of all the technology.

Up to 2012, Turkey produced 0,7um chip technology. In 2013, 0,25um SIGEC BICMOS chip technology developed and production has been updated accordingly. According to information received from project engineers in 2017, YITAL institute has produced chips with 0,18um technology. Same engineer informed that 0,13um SIGEC BICMOS chips have been developed and production will commence in a few months. All those infos are from 2017. A bigger production facility will be opened for YITAL to serve for not only military but also civilian applications.

 

[cabatli_53]

Btw, Turkish institutes Aselsan-Tübitak have been developing national micro-processor family called ÇAKIL. Çakıl with single, dual and quad core selections will serve for both military and civilian applications.

 

[Oublious]

Ther is 40 years of RD going on in Turkey, a video but it is in Turkish.

 

[Smarana Mitra]

Up to 2012, Turkey produced 0,7um chip technology. In 2013, 0,25um SIGEC BICMOS chip technology developed and production has been updated accordingly. According to information received from project engineers in 2017, YITAL institute has produced chips with 0,18um technology. Same engineer informed that 0,13um SIGEC BICMOS chips have been developed and production will commence in a few months. All those infos are from 2017. A bigger production facility will be opened for YITAL to serve for not only military but also civilian applications.

Ther is 40 years of RD going on in Turkey, a video but it is in Turkish.

Thanks. That was informative. But I noticed that only IC is being displayed in the video. Also in the YITAL website:
https://bilgem.tubitak.gov.tr/en/urunler/yital-semiconductor-technologies-research-laboratory

This is written:

YITAL currently uses the 0,7 μm CMOS technology and has been developing the 0,25 μm 5 met al CMOS and SiGeC HBT BiCMOS processes. YITAL, which develops it’s original production processes, has reached present position by developing BIPOLAR technology, 3 μm and 1,5 μm CMOS technologies and producing low-volume integrated circuits (IC).

YITAL has the infrastructure which enables to implement IC design, mask production, wafer processing, wafer probing, packaging, circuit test and aging processes. Having 800 m2 of clean room space YITAL is the unique laboratory in Turkey which produces ICs in semiconductor technologies.

There is no mention of microprocessors. Making IC is relatively simple. It is the microprocessor which is the critical part. Microprocessor has millions of ICs in a single chip and that is what complicates things.

Turkey may have designed microprocessor but can it make it inhouse? That is, does Turkey have the wafer fabrication facility to make the microprocessor? What class of clean rooms are there, if any?

 

[cabatli_53]

Thanks. That was informative. But I noticed that only IC is being displayed in the video. Also in the YITAL website:
https://bilgem.tubitak.gov.tr/en/urunler/yital-semiconductor-technologies-research-laboratory

This is written:

YITAL currently uses the 0,7 μm CMOS technology and has been developing the 0,25 μm 5 met al CMOS and SiGeC HBT BiCMOS processes. YITAL, which develops it’s original production processes, has reached present position by developing BIPOLAR technology, 3 μm and 1,5 μm CMOS technologies and producing low-volume integrated circuits (IC).

YITAL has the infrastructure which enables to implement IC design, mask production, wafer processing, wafer probing, packaging, circuit test and aging processes. Having 800 m2 of clean room space YITAL is the unique laboratory in Turkey which produces ICs in semiconductor technologies.

There is no mention of microprocessors. Making IC is relatively simple. It is the microprocessor which is the critical part. Microprocessor has millions of ICs in a single chip and that is what complicates things.

Turkey may have designed microprocessor but can it make it inhouse? That is, does Turkey have the wafer fabrication facility to make the microprocessor? What class of clean rooms are there, if any?

Yital AŞ. And Yital labratory are different establishment. Yital labratory (%100 Tübitak) is the design office of semi-conductors and make limited production processes for military application but Yital Microelectronic AŞ is an institute (%51 Aselsan, %29 Tübitak, %20SSB) which is established to create a production ecosystem for semi-conductors for Turkey and friend countries. Yital AŞ is charged to develop and produce not only integrated circiuts but also micro processors.

 

[Smarana Mitra]

Yital AŞ. And Yital labratory are different establishment. Yital labratory (%100 Tübitak) is the design office of semi-conductors and make limited production processes for military application but Yital Microelectronic AŞ is an institute (%51 Aselsan, %29 Tübitak, %20SSB) which is established to create a production ecosystem for semi-conductors for Turkey and friend countries. Yital AŞ is charged to develop and produce not only integrated circiuts but also micro processors.

I know that it is entrusted with development of microprocessor but my question is whether Turkey has already obtained wafer fabrication technology?

 

[Rogue1]

I know that it is entrusted with development of microprocessor but my question is whether Turkey has already obtained wafer fabrication technology?

....because India has possessed this technology for 3000 years.

 

[Smarana Mitra]

....because India has possessed this technology for 3000 years.

India has had processor technology since 1990. It has now been upgraded to 180nm. I just asked a question about Turkey's semiconductor manufacturing technology and nothing more