What Israeli PM Golda Meir Learned from the Prophet Muhammad [PBUH]

[ajtr]

Golda Meir taught a shameful lesson to all muslims in general by following sunnat of Prophet Mohammed PBUH. Its ironic that she put it into practice against muslims. Many of the 'secular' type muslim dont have anything to do with islamic history let alone learning a lesson from it. Its a tragedy that muslim world is rules by such 'seculars' and apologists.

Best thing one can do is to learn from enemy.Thats why its always said keep you friends close and enemy closer

 

[KRAIT]

Best thing one can do is to learn from enemy.Thats why its always said keep you friends close and enemy closer

That's what both India and Pakistan lack. We don't learn from each other. The ego can blind any intellectual. Even after 65 years, 4 wars, we are unable to take lessons from each other regarding defense and terrorism.

Look at China, they learn anything from anyone. They will sit down and reverse engineer rather than taking it on their ego. Its this very ability to learn everything best out of your enemy, leave aside friends has made them a potent force in the world.

 

[ajtr]

Mind giving any historical source that Gold Meir had mentioned the Prophet while speaking with the American senator?
I tried googling and the only sources were Pakistani.

Some i iron ladies i can think of...

1.Golda Meir
2.Indira Gandhi.
3.Margret thatcher
4.Princess Noor Inayat Khan.
5.Chand bibi
4.Laxmi bai

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Add ur choices

That's what both India and Pakistan lack. We don't learn from each other. The ego can blind any intellectual. Even after 65 years, 4 wars, we are unable to take lessons from each other regarding defense and terrorism.

Oh sure they do leanrn.65 yrs of history is replete with examples.

 

[KRAIT]

Some i iron ladies i can think of...

1.Golda Meir
2.Indira Gandhi.
3.Margret thatcher.....

Have you watched "The Iron Lady" based on Thatcher....a nice portrayal. Saw "Munich" too, where Golda Meir asked Mossad agents to find and kill the people behind Black September. That's called strength. She asked the other world powers but seeing nothing happening, gave this operation go ahead just to prove nobody and no one should try to target Israel.

 

[ajtr]

Have you watched "The Iron Lady" based on Thatcher....a nice portrayal. Saw "Munich" too, where Golda Meir asked Mossad agents to find and kill the people behind Black September. That's called strength. She asked the other world powers but seeing nothing happening, gave this operation go ahead just to prove nobody and no one should try to target Israel.

yes........

Have you watched this interview of Indira.Ignore the politics look at the confidence on her face and in her voice.

She happens to look quite angry here with west's duplicity.

And above all i miss her joshili goonjati awaz when she used to shout "Jai hind" from the red fort on 15th august.None other leader in india ever had confident powerful voice like hers.

 

[livingdead]

I wont call it fake story.Even Mahatma Gandhi and Subrahmaniyam Bhararti ,savarkar took inspiration from Prophet Mohammad(PBUH).

But I will because it has not been mentioned in other sources. Its like some little known magazine(with a motive) claiming mother teresa was inspired by shankaracharya, she might have been (I just made it up though) but I need credible source for that.

Can you post the links about gandhi, bharati and savarkar. I could be ignorant about it.

 

[ajtr]

But I will because it has not been mentioned in other sources. Its like some little known magazine(with a motive) claiming mother teresa was inspired by shankaracharya, she might have been (I just made it up though) but I need credible source for that.

Can you post the links about gandhi, bharati and savarkar. I could be ignorant about it.

First of all that was off the record remark.you can not find any source except for the report who took for that interview and on for that i wont doubt his professionalism that he will add lies to Golda Mier's name and sell it. And regarding Mother Teresa bing inspired by Shankrachrya. it can be possible only great inspire great and only commoners on the road argue about inspiration.

 

[ajtr]

Can you post the links about gandhi, bharati and savarkar. I could be ignorant about it.

NCERT hindi nondetail-7th class.CBSE syllabus.

 

[livingdead]

First of all that was off the record remark.you can not find any source except for the report who took for that interview and on for that i wont doubt his professionalism that he will add lies to Golda Mier's name and sell it. And regarding Mother Teresa bing inspired by Shankrachrya. it can be possible only great inspire great and only commoners on the road argue about inspiration.

No, Mother teresa was not inspired by shankaracharya. I just made it up (I told you so in the same post). People with motive keep creating such stories to feel good about thelselves. Nothing else.
btw the story is from urdu times mumbai. (Courtesy: Urdu Times, Mumbai and translated to English by ViaMedia.MumbaiNews)
I dont have access to NCERT book. (I will keep it in my 'to be verified' list )

 

[airmarshal]

and world will remember our victory in canakkale at the worst time of our empire and maybe history , when they were worse fed than most other nations , but marched Allah Allah to enemy trenches and died for our country.

In this picture you can see even children going for battle , with no footwear

and the world and we will remember how this feisal betrayer sold us out to people who he has no common thing with , just for personal power

THE WORLD WILL REMEMBER HOW WE HELPED EVEN ENEMY SOLDIERS IN A WORLD WAR

OTTOMAN SOLDIER CARRYING AN ANZAC

That is why you are a great nation. You defeated the Brits when they were the superpower. Long live Turkey. And if you want to know about the treachery of Feisal and the House of Saud, read T E Lawrence (Lawrence of Arabia) book - Seven Pillars of Wisdom.

 

[Tshering22]

Well, considering that Meir has found the logic of military strategy from your prophet and inspired by his methods, I don't think Pakistanis should now get angry with Israel for a battle that they don't have with them.

 

[ARSENAL6]

That is why you are a great nation. You defeated the Brits when they were the superpower. Long live Turkey. And if you want to know about the treachery of Feisal and the House of Saud, read T E Lawrence (Lawrence of Arabia) book - Seven Pillars of Wisdom.

KIng Faisal ?

you mean him:

1972 - For the first time, Saudi Arabia gains control of a proportion (20 per cent) of ARAMCO lessening the control of the Americans over Saudi's oil.


1973 - Saudi Arabia leads an oil boycott against the Western countries that supported Israel in the October War against Egypt and Syria leading to the quadrupling of oil prices.

King Faysal assassinated


1975 March - King Faysal is assassinated by his nephew, Faysal Bin-Musa'id Bin-Abd-al-Aziz; he is succeeded by his brother, Khalid Bin-Abd-al-Aziz Al Sa'ud.





Assassinated: King Faysal


1979 - Saudi Arabia severs diplomatic relations with Egypt after it makes peace with Israel.

The only Muslim that I know that have put western countries on their knees. Could you name another ?
Try reading him up before you critise him as you know what.

 

[A1Kaid]

Golda Meir taught a shameful lesson to all muslims in general by following sunnat of Prophet Mohammed PBUH. Its ironic that she put it into practice against muslims. Many of the 'secular' type muslim dont have anything to do with islamic history let alone learning a lesson from it. Its a tragedy that muslim world is rules by such 'seculars' and apologists.

Golda Meir taught a shameful lesson to all muslims i

Wrong. "She", IDF taught a lesson to the Arab countries involved in the war, not "all" Muslims.

 

[The SC]

Wrong. "She", IDF taught a lesson to the Arab countries involved in the war, not "all" Muslims.

What lesson, she is the one who have told all her general staff that the end of Israel was in sight, so they have used the nuclear option to get the weapons from the US, Even this fact is is a cover to the open support of the US at that time to Israel.
So this article is a lie like most Jewish media articles. Anyone can prove it to himself by verifying them in time.
There are too many facts (some new, some old) pertaining to the defeat of the IDF in the 1973 Arab-USraeli war.

 

[RAMPAGE]

A Lesson From History

In 1973 the war between Arabs and Israel was about to start. Meanwhile an American Senator visited Israel on a special mission. He was chief of the Senate Arms Committee. A meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir was arranged immediately.

Golda Meir welcomed him into her home, like any common housewife welcoming a family guest. She took him to the kitchen. While seating him at the kitchen dining table, she went over to prepare tea for the guest.

As the water was kept for boiling, she came over and sat on a chair near the dining table. She opened the discussion regarding planes, missiles, and guns. In the course of negotiations, she got the aroma of the brew.

She prepared two cups of tea, and offered one cup to the Senator, and another to an American guard who was standing at the gate. On returning, she came back, continued talking with the Senator. After a discussion they settled the arms deal. In the meantime, she stood up, collected all the cups, and turned to senator and said "I agree to this deal. You can send your secretary to my secretary for written deal".

It may be remembered that Israel at that time was facing a serious economic crisis, but the huge arms deal was settled by Meir with the greatest of ease in the history of Israel. It was quite astonishing that earlier, the Israeli cabinet had rejected the same deal, because they thought it would be so costly, that the whole nation would have to make do with a single meal a day, for years to come.

Meir knew about their stand, and said, "Your doubt are well founded, but if we win this war, and defeat the Arabs, history will remember us as the victors, and in history, once a community is know as the victor, it forgets how many eggs they ate and how many times they had food. Whether there was jam, honey, butter on the table, and how many holes they had in their shoes. Or whether the sheaths of their swords were new or old! A conqueror is a conqueror."

Based on Meir's solid logic, the Israeli cabinet approved the deal. Later it was proved that the decision taken by Meir was right, and the whole world witnessed the Jews knocking on the doors of the Arabs with this artillery. A war took place, and the Arabs faced a shameful defeat at the hands of an old lady.

After a gap of one decade after the war, a reporter of the Washington Post interviewed Meir, asking "Was the logic you had in your mind for the arms was spur of the moment decision or you had had an advance strategy?"

Meir's reply was very surprising.

She answered, "I got this logic from the Prophet (of the Muslims) Mohammed (peace be upon him). When I was a student, my favorite topic was comparative study of religions. Those days I studied the life of Mohammed (PBUH). One author stated that when Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) died, there was not enough money to buy oil for a lamp, his wife (Ayesha Siddiqa[Radi Allahu-ta'ala unha]) mortgaged his battle shield to buy oil, yet there were nine swords hung on the wall of his house.

When I read this account, it occurred to me- how many people in the world would have known about the worst economic condition of Islamic state? But everyone recognizes them as conquerors of half the world. So I decided that I would buy arms at any cost; even if we would have to starve or to live in camps instead of buildings, but we would prove ourselves as the victor".

Meir revealed this secret, but requested the interviewer to keep it "off the record", and refrain from publishing it, because if she referred to Prophet Mohammed(P.B.U.H), the Jews would have revolted against her and the Muslim position would have strengthened.

Over the time, world situation changed. Golda Meir died. By this time the interviewer had given up the profession of journalism. Meanwhile another correspondent was busy interviewing 20 famous American journalists. In connection with this, he met the journalist who had interviewed Meir as a representative of the Washington Post.In this interview, he recounted the story of Meir that drew on the life of Prophet Mohammed (PBUH).

He said he was not ashamed to tell the story. Further, he said, "After this incident I studied the history of Islam, and was astonished to know about the savoir-faire of Arabs. Because I learnt that Tariq bin Ziyad conquered Spain through Gibraltar, while more than half his army did not have complete suit of clothes. They subsisted for 72 hours at time on water and dried bread.

It was then that the interviewer agreed with Meir's view that history counts victory; it does not count the eggs, jams and butter on the table."When the interview with Meir was published, the whole world learned of this entire story.This astonishing incident is history's wake-up call to the Muslims of the world. It teaches them a lesson; it reveals how 14 centuries ago, a shepherd, clad in a cloak and worn-out shoes became the leader of the world, and conquered four continents.

Could enormous castles, grand palaces, magnificent gardens, splendid clothes, adorned rest places of silk and sleepless, gold silver, boxes, gems and jewels, spread of savory dishes and the jingle of coins save them? The locust-swarm of Tartar forces did not reach the palace of Musta'sim Billah by trampling over Baghdad. What a terrible and astonishing scene it was in the history of Islam, when Musta'sim Billah was bound in chains, standing like a prisoner before Halaku Khan (grandson of Changiz Khan). And at mealtime, Halaku Khan ate in simple plates, but offered plates of gems and precious metals to Caliph Musta'sim Billah, mocking "Eat from these diamonds, gems, gold and precious metals you have collected!" There stood the Sovereign of Baghdad, helplessness, powerless, lonely, destitute, saying, "How can I eat gold?" Halaku Khan replied, "Then why you have collected all this silver and gold?"

The Muslim, whose religion calls on him to make arms and rear horses, had no reply. Halaku Khan glanced at the palace doors and windows, asking, "Why did you not make iron arrows by melting these iron nets? Why did you collect these diamonds instead of paying money to your soldiers, so they could fight bravely against my forces?""It was the will of Allah", replied the grieved Caliph.

The arrogant Halaku shot back, "Whatever is now going to happen with you is also God's wish".
Then Halaku covered Musta'sim Billah in a cloak and crushed him under the hooves of horses, and proceeded to make a graveyard of Baghdad.

A Lesson from History | Asian Tribune



* Am i the only one intrigued ?

I read this almost a decade ago.

Still it was good reading it again.