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What is the goals of NATO and ASEAN

A free-trade zone. The reason it is not yet ready because some country, such as the Philippines, haven't lessen the restrictions to the economy. If you are an investor, would you invest in a country where you only have 40% of control (and profits)?

It's a progress nonetheless, and there will be no completion for ASEAN, it's always progression that matter. As a block, ASEAN promise much hope for each member and pose greater incentive for other countries outside the block to interact and doing business with ASEAN countries.

ASEAN step will be moved according to its member readiness, if we can find common ground and interest to an issue, then this agenda can be pushed forward, otherwise we will leave this matter to each Government to act separately.

And that's not a bad thing.


Ya but ASEAN has no unity for things like that and the problems in ASEAN is evidence of that fact

Unity can be achieved if we want to listen and understand each other position and concern instead of pushing own agenda on ASEAN table. Find common ground and interest, common benefit than all voice will be united.
 
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With this type of thinking, you wouldn't achieve anything :coffee:
Well chinese imperialism is problem soon it would be your problem too

It's a progress nonetheless, and there will be no completion for ASEAN, it's always progression that matter. As a block, ASEAN promise much hope for each member and pose greater incentive for other countries outside the block to interact and doing business with ASEAN countries.

ASEAN step will be moved according to its member readiness, if we can find common ground and interest to an issue, then this agenda can be pushed forward, otherwise we will leave this matter to each Government to act separately.

And that's not a bad thing.




Unity can be achieved if we want to listen and understand each other position and concern instead of pushing own agenda on ASEAN table. Find common ground and interest, common benefit than all voice will be united.

Ya if only it was possible too am just saying we as bloc is simply too young to do so for now we have to build our own first
 
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Ya if only it was possible too am just saying we as bloc is simply too young to do so for now we have to build our own first

Just like a country, a government, a community, finding common ground and common purpose is fundamantal and will decide further progress. Otherwise... it will stuck.
 
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Just like a country, a government, a community, finding common ground and common purpose is fundamantal and will decide further progress. Otherwise... it will stuck.

Yes all true but seriously it will take time but we should not waste time building each individual country and trying it slow is the best course of action to take.
 
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It's a progress nonetheless, and there will be no completion for ASEAN, it's always progression that matter. As a block, ASEAN promise much hope for each member and pose greater incentive for other countries outside the block to interact and doing business with ASEAN countries.

ASEAN step will be moved according to its member readiness, if we can find common ground and interest to an issue, then this agenda can be pushed forward, otherwise we will leave this matter to each Government to act separately.

And that's not a bad thing.




Unity can be achieved if we want to listen and understand each other position and concern instead of pushing own agenda on ASEAN table. Find common ground and interest, common benefit than all voice will be united.

Well, in that case, I hope that in the future, ASEAN will be successful and would not suffer problems the EU currently have.
 
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May i ask you what is the reason(s) why you (and some of your countrymen) hate Chinese so much? :sarcastic:
Mainly because of South China Sea issue?

1. Felt humiliated because of the China pushed PH out of Scarborough Shoal few years ago?
2. China is very arrogant as they become stronger (or getting more confident in geopolitics if you look at different perspective)?
3. Because some Chinese Filipino hold significant wealth in Philippine? (but this is an internal issue)
4. Chinese imperialism because of their claim in South China Sea? But Vietnam's claim is better than them as VN actual control most of the islands and reefs.
5. Inferiority / superiority complex :whistle:
6. Incapable PH leaders that can't do anything for the country and you need to find a scapegoat?
7. Just trolling for fun because you like it :chilli:

I doubt they killed or invaded PH before :coffee:

Well chinese imperialism is problem soon it would be your problem too
 
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May i ask you what is the reason(s) why you (and some of your countrymen) hate Chinese so much? :sarcastic:
Mainly because of South China Sea issue?

1. Felt humiliated because of the China pushed PH out of Scarborough Shoal few years ago?
2. China is very arrogant as they become stronger (or getting more confident in geopolitics if you look at different perspective)?
3. Because some Chinese Filipino hold significant wealth in Philippine? (but this is an internal issue)
4. Chinese imperialism because of their claim in South China Sea? But Vietnam's claim is better than them as VN actual control most of the islands and reefs.
5. Inferiority / superiority complex :whistle:
6. Incapable PH leaders that can't do anything for the country and you need to find a scapegoat?
7. Just trolling for fun because you like it :chilli:

I doubt they killed or invaded PH before :coffee:

1st fishing majority of filipinos primary job is fishing and of course supply of food
2nd our EZZ would be gone and that's unacceptable
3rd that's not true about filipinos being jealous of chinoys i myself is a chinoy am 4th gen and not most are rich but a lot of them have some kind of business not all of us are are tans or sy's we just Lunas and Gomez's who have hardware store or small grocery i think you just like the rest of the anti filipinos here just think less of us filipinos as for invasion? well this would make think Limahong - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and yes they did.
4th chinese historical claims are illogical and stupid no person or country recognized claims like that but its not new for one the italians tried that bid once in World war 2 and we all know what happened to mussolini at the end or were you asleep the whole class in history and sir allow me to correct you since panatag shoal is very close to the zambales so its impossible to not fish in that area its part of territory the chinese are harassing our ships they did not make us stop fishing because they can't but they are pain and its coasting the people of zambales a lot since majority of the coastline people are fishermen
6th Inferior only foreign anti filipinos think we are! as people we are pretty simple and lay back and with a bit pessimistic attitude but we never thought ourselves inferior because that's bull especially in the 21st century
7th you do that if that makes you happy but that's just mess up dude

Well, in that case, I hope that in the future, ASEAN will be successful and would not suffer problems the EU currently have.

Sorry i doubt that a trade alliance sure its money talk but as union well you seen europe right?
 
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NATO: Prepare for trouble!

ASEAN: Make it double!

NATO: To protect the world from devastation!

ASEAN: To unite all peoples within our nation!

ASEAN: To denounce the evils of truth and love!

NATO: To extend our reach to the stars above!

ASEAN: ASEAN!

NATO: NATO!

ASEAN: ASEAN blasting off at the speed of of light!

NATO: Surrender now or prepare to fight! Fight! Fight!

MeoUS: MeoUS! That's right!


lol @Nihonjin1051 recognize what this is
awesome bro i agree and what

americans created NATO to counter russia and now they have created ASEAN to counter china ......ASEAN,korean and Japanese cooperation just to counter china in south china sea ......... i think it is going to trouble china in future..... indians are also cooperating with ASEANS ...... that should trouble china and its allies
 
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awesome bro i agree and what

americans created NATO to counter russia and now they have created ASEAN to counter china ......ASEAN,korean and Japanese cooperation just to counter china in south china sea ......... i think it is going to trouble china in future..... indians are also cooperating with ASEANS ...... that should trouble china and its allies

WTF, there is no involvement of US when ASEAN is formed. ASEAN is formed as the reaction to the increasingly Nationalism within South Asia countries at the time, and finally some leaders trying to hold that phenomena and create ASEAN as a group to cooperate between each other regardless their politics affiliation and their country systems. That's why you can see why even some communist countries like Laos and Vietnam can joint ASEAN.
 
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okay i
WTF, there is no involvement of US when ASEAN is formed. ASEAN is formed as the reaction to the increasingly Nationalism within South Asia countries at the time, and finally some leaders trying to hold that phenomena and create ASEAN as a group to cooperate between each other regardless their politics affiliation and their country systems. That's why you can see why even some communist countries like Laos and Vietnam can joint ASEAN.
understand you now and just wants to know that why are indians , koreans and japenese are cooperating but chinese are not included ..... even States president was there but china being closer to you then all the rest is being neglected...... dosent it seems to be countering china specifically in south china sea

okay i
WTF, there is no involvement of US when ASEAN is formed. ASEAN is formed as the reaction to the increasingly Nationalism within South Asia countries at the time, and finally some leaders trying to hold that phenomena and create ASEAN as a group to cooperate between each other regardless their politics affiliation and their country systems. That's why you can see why even some communist countries like Laos and Vietnam can joint ASEAN.
understand you now and just wants to know that why are indians , koreans and japenese are cooperating but chinese are not included ..... even States president was there but china being closer to you then all the rest is being neglected...... dosent it seems to be countering china specifically in south china sea
 
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okay i

understand you now and just wants to know that why are indians , koreans and japenese are cooperating but chinese are not included ..... even States president was there but china being closer to you then all the rest is being neglected...... dosent it seems to be countering china specifically in south china sea

okay i

understand you now and just wants to know that why are indians , koreans and japenese are cooperating but chinese are not included ..... even States president was there but china being closer to you then all the rest is being neglected...... dosent it seems to be countering china specifically in south china sea

don't you know what you have been stated here? Total bullshit, China is the largest trading partner for ASEAN, and the second largest investor here after Japan. China is important to ASEAN. India is nothing in that field when compared to China and China is part of ASEAN + 3 cooperation framework along with South Korea and Japan, when India is still yet to became one. Even ASEAN along with Korea, Japan and China had proposed a broader economic reform and Free trade area to become more connect each other economically.
 
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don't you know what you have been stated here? Total bullshit, China is the largest trading partner for ASEAN, and the second largest investor here after Japan. China is important to ASEAN. India is nothing in that field when compared to China and China is part of ASEAN + 3 cooperation framework along with South Korea and Japan, when India is still yet to became one. Even ASEAN along with Korea, Japan and China had proposed a broader economic reform and Free trade area to become more connect each other economically.
well if it is the ground reality then all i had were Misconceptions............. another question was china invited in the summit if not why if yes then ignore the question
 
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well if it is the ground reality then all i had were Misconceptions............. another question was china invited in the summit if not why if yes then ignore the question


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NATO: Prepare for trouble!

ASEAN: Make it double!

NATO: To protect the world from devastation!

ASEAN: To unite all peoples within our nation!

ASEAN: To denounce the evils of truth and love!

NATO: To extend our reach to the stars above!

ASEAN: ASEAN!

NATO: NATO!

ASEAN: ASEAN blasting off at the speed of of light!

NATO: Surrender now or prepare to fight! Fight! Fight!

MeoUS: MeoUS! That's right!


lol @Nihonjin1051 recognize what this is

WTF, there is no involvement of US when ASEAN is formed. ASEAN is formed as the reaction to the increasingly Nationalism within South Asia countries at the time, and finally some leaders trying to hold that phenomena and create ASEAN as a group to cooperate between each other regardless their politics affiliation and their country systems. That's why you can see why even some communist countries like Laos and Vietnam can joint ASEAN.

don't you know what you have been stated here? Total bullshit, China is the largest trading partner for ASEAN, and the second largest investor here after Japan. China is important to ASEAN. India is nothing in that field when compared to China and China is part of ASEAN + 3 cooperation framework along with South Korea and Japan, when India is still yet to became one. Even ASEAN along with Korea, Japan and China had proposed a broader economic reform and Free trade area to become more connect each other economically.
 
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