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What is possibility of Modi triggering 3rd war with Pakistan?

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War is not a good idea. It does not serve India's purpose. War carries a nuclear risk and may unite the various factions within Pakistan. Rather, we should talk peace, increase trade and carry out Chanakyan methods at the same time.

Modi should strengthen covert ops including selective assassinations. The fissiparous movements inside Pakistan should naturally be supported.

All in all, Modi should aim for dismemberment of Pakistan within 10-15 years rather than the 20-25 years it will otherwise take.

I have studied the Chankyan doctrine myself and i can tell you for a fact that it can be applied to India too, a federation of 80 states. Pakistan is bound together by a singular religion with all Muslim countries around it, while India is fragmented by design , geographically surrounded by enemy states. Be careful what you wish for.
 
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If they want refuge, grant them.. If anyone wants to go to Pakistan, let them..

You and I know these Pakistanis like the luxury and security of India. Yet rave against their perceived injustices and wish to do it harm. They are not going anywhere. Not permanently or on a one way ticket voluntarily at least.
 
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I have studied the Chankyan doctrine myself and i can tell you for a fact that it can be applied to India too, a federation of 80 states. Pakistan is bound together by a singular religion with all Muslim countries around it, while India is fragmented by design , geographically surrounded by enemy states. Be careful what you wish for.

India survived against all these odds when your country bound by a singular religion got divided.. So I think you as a nation should be careful mate..
 
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Hah?? Kashmir is just a cause to destroy INdia.. If Kashmir issues are settled, they will find another reason.. You know it very well.. They do not care about Kashmir or any Muslims, the reason is Hindus and they want to kill as much Hindus as they can..

That is just paranoia being sold to Indians, nothing more. Kashmirs are our people and the only cause of war with India, beyond Kashmir, we have no beef with India. From Pakistani perspective, Kashmir is the 'full stop'.

India survived against all these odds when your country bound by a singular religion got divided.. So I think you as a nation should be careful mate..

We owe a lot of thanks to you for that for that made us enemies..
 
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Our internal issues have not and will not fade our support for our people on the other side of LOC.

The most dangerous thing Aeronaut, is what this guy said here:

War is not a good idea. It does not serve India's purpose. War carries a nuclear risk and may unite the various factions within Pakistan. Rather, we should talk peace, increase trade and carry out Chanakyan methods at the same time.

Modi should strengthen covert ops including selective assassinations. The fissiparous movements inside Pakistan should naturally be supported.

All in all, Modi should aim for dismemberment of Pakistan within 10-15 years rather than the 20-25 years it will otherwise take.

You guys need to strengthen your internal stability so they can't play Sun Tzu on you.

If you're always dancing on the edge of some catastrophe or another, then some guy, inside or outside Pakistan, with a "唯恐天下不乱" mentality will try to bring everything crashing down.

Open war is the lesser danger. The secret war is worse.
 
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we saw your guts in 1971 war surrender and 1999 Pakistan hunting days. pakistanis talk a lot but do less.

Try to understand like this way, guess Afghanistan is a western part of India, and people of all of your western part want freedom from You ? Now how would India hold ? You have no courage to face Pakistan even in the presence of USA in Afghanistan how could you hold down self :no::no:
 
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That is just paranoia being sold to Indians, nothing more. Kashmirs are our people and the only cause of war with India, beyond Kashmir, we have no beef with India. From Pakistani perspective, Kashmir is the 'full stop'.



We owe a lot of thanks to you for that for that made us enemies..

sir than make war with india. who is stoping you ? just start full war and see who gets kashmir.
 
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Tu-quoque is a well established logical fallacy. Pak still has no locus.

Sure..


'It's not denial. I'm just selective about the reality I accept'

'Bill Watterson '
 
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I don't care if you eradicate every breathing human being in other parts of India. Kashmir is an internationally recognized disputed zone therefore their political as well as armed struggle for liberty under International Law is legal.

"I don't care if you eradicate every breathing human being in other parts of India" - Know how much we care about what you care? :azn:
"internationally recognized disputed zone" - Our country is run by our laws and not International Laws. Besides if Kashmir is disputed then so is Pakistan. Know why? - Indian Independence Act :devil: All the alphas and omegas spring from here. Besides, violating the Shimla Agreement would also be an embarrassment.

Of course you can tear Acts down and take territory by force. After all they are pieces of Paper. But then you tried that. Again and again and again... keep trying. You can get Kashmir - there is a chance - but for that you have to take it from the frozen lifeless fingers of a defeated, destroyed and non existing India.

Clear? :)
 
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That is just paranoia being sold to Indians, nothing more. Kashmirs are our people and the only cause of war with India, beyond Kashmir, we have no beef with India. From Pakistani perspective, Kashmir is the 'full stop'.

We owe a lot of thanks to you for that for that made us enemies..

@Aeronaut , I agree with @seiko man, you really are contradicting yourself.

You ask for the Kashmiri people to get their divine right to freedom.

Yet you also lay claim to these people, and hence want them within the ambit of the Pakistani state.

Is it any wonder that you as a people have no credibility internationally?
 
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Our internal issues have not and will not fade our support for our people on the other side of LOC.

well brother then remeber one thing and thats also not negociable for India and that is we will not give you kashmir but yes if you are so concerened for them you can take them and we will arrange for there relocation in so called azad kashmir and might aswell give you a couple of billion dollars for it aswell but other than that forget every thing

secondli if you think you can wrestowr land by force or pin prikking us then its laughable at most

thing is we are in a position of strenth and your in a postion of weakness as your internal implozition is inevitable and your economy is going down the drain while we are getting stronger by each passing day and there is nothing you can do to change this unless you become stronger from within so first try to check leaks in your own system then come and talk with us hope im not too rude here sir ..Thanks
 
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I have studied the Chankyan doctrine myself and i can tell you for a fact that it can be applied to India too, a federation of 80 states. Pakistan is bound together by a singular religion with all Muslim countries around it, while India is fragmented by design , geographically surrounded by enemy states. Be careful what you wish for.

So try it out. In fact you have tried it but failed. Now give us a fair chance too. We have done it once in 71, and will try to do it again.

As for being careful what you wish for, an apt example is Pakistan - your Frankensteinian creation in Taliban has come back to kill you.

The so called federation of 80 (God knows where you get that number), that too is a Chanakyan device - feigning weakness where non exists, so that your enemies spend their efforts in finding ****** in your armour.
 
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I am not sure about third war with Pakistan but there is a huge possibility of another Gujarat like massacre in India. He is a terrorist and the uniform of Prime Minister will not hide his true colour

Whether there will be hindu-muslim riots in future in India, I cannot predict, but I can tell you one thing - it will not be because of Modi or any other politician. It was people who rioted against each other, not Modi.

The words you use sometimes clouds your understanding of the real nature of events. Like you used "massacre" instead of riots. That propogates and reinforces your conviction that it was a large scale slaughter of innocent muslims by evil hindus, or satan Modi.

The reality is that it was a riot between two religious communities, where criminal minded gangs of hindus took to the streets killing muslims, and criminal minded muslims took to the street killing hindus.

The initial event that triggered those riots, the burning of 56 Kar sevaks, was a massacre, and not a riot, so your phrse "Gujarat like massacre" can only apply to that particular event of the slaughter of kar sevaks by muslims. The subsequent events were riots.

Such riots will occur in any part of India (or any other country) where neighbours live in constant hatred and/or fear of their neighbours, and deep religious polarization exists on a large scale among ordinary people. That was the case of Gujarat, and has always been the case. There has been hindu-muslim riots in Gujarat every decade since independence, sometimes every five years. The riots in 1969 were also as deadly. And guess what - it is the first time, under Modi's leadership that Gujarat has had a riot free decade since independence. So from the available data points, wouldn't the reasonable conclusion be that communal riots will decrease, and not increase in India?

And no, he is not a terrorist, he has not killed anybody. That is just a façade that Pakistanis want to sustain, to keep alive the notion that there is an evil muslim killer in India. That façade has provided plenty of motivation materials for terrorists from across the border, who were recruited to kill Indians to avenge muslims. The akshardham attackers, the Mumbai 26/11 attackers and plenty of foot soldiers of LeT and other Pakistani-Punjabi terror groups were motivated to join by repeating this canard.

Every Indian law court has exonerated him of any charges. The worst you can say about him is that his administration failed to contain the riots quickly - and yes, that is true. However it is not just muslims who were hurt by that failure, so were hindus. And if it was any other party or chief minister in power, do you think that the riots would have ended sooner? There have been far worse riots in India before, with state forces being unable to contain them. That is an issue with the pathetic training of our law enforcement agencies.

At the end of the day, the people in that state have to take collective responsibility for the riots, instead of blaming it all on politicians. It is people who hated each other, and it is people who rioted. Why they lived in such hatred for each other for so long is what has to be probed, instead of taking the easy way out by blaming politicians.

Anyway, I will go out on a limb and make a prediction - India will not see such large scale riots anymore, irrespective of Modi coming to power or not. Two reasons - one, society has matured beyond that stage, and since Gujarat 2002 was the first televised riots, it deeply pained and embarrassed the nation. It wasn't the worst riots in India by a long margin, but it was the most publicized. A positive result of that is that society evolved beyond the traditional hatred, and socio-political discourse entered a new era. And secondly, police forces are now much better trained to handle such events, at least in all the major states. So while there will still be small communal violence here and there, whether hindu-muslim or casteist or some other religionist, the sort of widespread arson will not happen any more. Of course, this is just my guess.
 
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That is just paranoia being sold to Indians, nothing more. Kashmirs are our people and the only cause of war with India, beyond Kashmir, we have no beef with India. From Pakistani perspective, Kashmir is the 'full stop'.

Two things

1. Kashmiris are your people.. meh.. if that was the case, you would have wanted people, not land..By your logic, India has Kashmiris as hostages in their region. Now, if your family is held hostage in their house, would you try to get them released or try to take the ownership of the house back :)?? At this time, Pakistan's efforts are focused towards the latter...
2. Over the years, Pakistan has lost all credibility it had due to its actions. So a statement of Kashmir is the full stop has no meaning. As far as India is concerned, its already a full stop.
 
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