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Written by : Sherif Ayoub
on : Friday, 14 Jun, 2013

What is “Islamic” statehood?

The resurgence of Islamic thought in the 20th century has served as a call to action by some Muslim leaders, demanding the adherents of the religion, such as myself, work together to supplant the Western-dominated models of statehood in Muslim countries. In fact, it could be argued that the root of the most organized opposition movements in the last century in these countries has been the aspiration for social transformation corresponding to Islamic jurisprudence, rather than the liberal ideals promoted in the West.

However, beyond the euphoria of latest successes of political Islam in bringing Islamic movements to power in the wake of the Arab Spring, this transformation poses challenges for Muslims seeking the truth about the claims that Islamic statehood promises bliss and salvation to the populace. The conundrum, of course, becomes apparent in the contrast between the stature of Islamic Empire in the seventh and eighth centuries, and the less-than-stellar performance of attempts to establish Islamic states in the modern era.

Essentially, two questions present themselves here: first, given that God is omnipotent and will undoubtedly not keep his benevolence from his true followers, how is it that the countries that seek to impose a model of Islamic statehood in the modern era are consistently ranked lower in development indicators than their Western counterparts?

And, second, when one thinks of the achievements of the Islamic Empire, did that success rest more on being Islamic, or on having an effective and functional state that was the most advanced in its time?

As it turns out, these two questions depend on the perception of the relationship between the Islamic belief system (including its moral underpinnings) and the effective functioning of a state. More specifically, they demand a clearer assessment of the role of the state in enforcing moral conduct as one of its core functions, especially with regard to ensuring well-being for its citizens.

To be sure, there should be a complementary relationship between the state and religious authorities in promoting (and enforcing) certain behavior among the populace. It is, however, the consistent demand by the leaders of political Islam for a state-centric model of enforcing religious beliefs that is being disputed here. Besides the fact that Muslim countries are, by and large, endowed with limited budgetary resources with which to face up to the large and increasingly complex challenges that confront them, this state-centric model of religious enforcement has paradoxically shifted the discourse in the religious centers from focusing on explaining religious values to explaining instead the importance in winning political battles against the liberal “infidels” to impose Islamic law by force.

As for the vilification of the Western model of statehood, it is not entirely clear where the basis of such fervent animosity resides. On the face of it, this model proposes democratically elected executive and legislative branches and an independent judiciary co-existing in an effective balance of power, governed by a constitution that also outlines the rights and freedoms of its citizens. In fact, it may be argued that this “Western” model of statehood conforms more closely to Islamic jurisprudence than the one on offer by some of the states in the Muslim world (for example, responsive leaders, effective judicial system, greater welfare, and so on).

Bearing this in mind, aspirations for the revival of the Islamic empire through the imposition of moral conduct using the powers of the state are misplaced. Instead, a more pragmatic approach is better, whereby religious authorities concentrate on their God-given opportunity to lead the Muslim populace on the path established by divine guidance. The state, for its part, should concentrate on the well-being of its citizens (all of them equally, no matter their gender or religion) in the most effective and efficient manner possible. With that, the Western models of statehood may not be so un-Islamic after all.

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Sherif Ayoub is a Visiting Fellow at Harvard University's Department of Government. Prior to that, he was a researcher at Columbia University and the University of Edinburgh, and has worked with the World Bank and United Nations Development Program.
 
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It is an expression of Arab fascism where all nations will service the crown in Saudi.

It is like Christian statehood where all nations report to the vatican, this was rejected.

It just does not work in modern day society.
 
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I never really understood what an Islamic state is.... I can understand a state consisting of majority of Muslims, thus the Chraracterics of the Muslims would resonate with in the state as a form of expression.

But I do not understand what an "Islamic state" is..

Iran has a state modeled on "Islam" but I think, Persians have used "religion" as a tool before to rule over people and build and expand their empire, for purposes which were not very Inspired by God...

At that time, that religion was Zorastrianism. When we say Islamic State, are we talking about old Iranian state model? If so, I am afraid it would be devastating for the Muslims...


Allah knows best. Allah forgive me if I said something wrong.
 
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I never really understood what an Islamic state is.... I can understand a state consisting of majority of Muslims, thus the Chraracterics of the Muslims would resonate with in the state as a form of expression.

But I do not understand what an "Islamic state" is..

Iran has a state modeled on "Islam" but I think, Persians have used "religion" as a tool before to rule over people and build and expand their empire, for purposes which were not very Inspired by God...

At that time, that religion was Zorastrianism. When we say Islamic State, are we talking about old Iranian state model? If so, I am afraid it would be devastating for the Muslims...


Allah knows best. Allah forgive me if I said something wrong.

The Persians have not used Islam to "rule over other people", The opposite is true, where other people such as Arabs, Turks have used Islam to rule over Persians in the past and oppress the people.


I'm not sure where Zorastrianism even comes into this discussion? I've noticed there are a lot of people on this forum obsessed with Zorastrianism. If your equating Zorastrianism to Shiasm, you are very misinformed. and Yes, Allah (God) knows best, but he also gave humankind intelligence and the thrust for knowledge! it would be great if muslims realize this...
 
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This issue interests me very much. Just like Mr. Sherif Ayoub above, I believe that modern constitution-based democracies are closer to Islamic ideal. Over the centuries Kings and kingdoms became the only model that existed and the populace and scholars of religion accepted it and did not then question this acceptance.

I do not remember to what extent I have discussed this issue, but elsewhere and with other people I have argued in favor of exactly what Mr. Sherif Ayoub has said.

One would note that the case that extremists build against modern democratic thought focuses on self-promoting politicians, and the right of legislation held by elected chambers in a democracy. While the criticisms are valid, there is nothing to keep us from evolving our systems further.
 
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Simple where Islamic law prevails leave non muslims aside but even if muslims knew it they wouldn't be confused about the term.
 
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Another Failed Thread a jew obsessed with Islam-Muslims that he has opened more Threads on Islamic religion and its people then on poor conditions of jews in israel and the daily problems jews face in israel that needs to be addressed.

@Solomon2, use your energy positively and post the problems faced by jews in israel, their resolution by israeli government, post Articles and something unique out of your own mind as to how to bridge the gap between jews and rest of the world instead of Bull crapping all over this forum inciting hate against a certain religion and its followers.

@nuclearpak @Aeronaut before the Thread turns ugly it should be closed.
 
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@Solomon2, why dont you post some article about something other than muslim/pakistan for a change?
You are just posting same things, over and over.
 
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@Solomon2, why dont you post some article about something other than muslim/pakistan for a change?
You are just posting same things, over and over.

Obsession! delusions! he should post new things about israel its people the current problems being faced with-in country or things as to how jews-muslims can come closer instead of creating rift-hate.
 
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Solomon2, use your energy positively...instead of Bull crapping all over this forum inciting hate against a certain religion and its followers.
I'm trying to figure this one out. Do you mean to say that you are no longer a Muslim and your religion is now anti-Westernism instead?
 
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