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What is India planning for Bangladesh?

মওদুদ আনোয়ার রফিকুল আটক

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বিরোধী দল নতুন করে হরতাল ঘোষণার পর বিএনপির স্থায়ী কমিটির সদস্য মওদুদ আহমদ, এম কে আনোয়ার ও রফিকুল ইসলাম মিয়াকে আটক করেছে পুলিশ।

ঢাকা মহানগর পুলিশের উপ কমিশনার মাসুদুর রহমান এই তিনজনকে গ্রেপ্তারের বিষয়টি নিশ্চিত করলেও তাৎক্ষণিকভাবে এ ব্যাপারে বিস্তারিত জানাননি।

এদিকে গুলশানে বিএনপি চেয়ারপার্সনের কার্যালয় বিকাল থেকেই ঘিরে রেখেছে পুলিশ।

মওদুদের এপিএস শহীদুল ইসলাম জানান, সন্ধ্যায় কারওয়ান বাজারে হোটেল সোনারগাঁওয়ে একটি অনুষ্ঠানে যোগ দেন এই সংসদ সদস্য।

“অনুষ্ঠান শেষে রাত সোয়া ৮টার দিকে গাড়িতে করে বাড়ি ফেরার সময় কারওয়ান বাজার এলাকাতেই পুলিশ তার গাড়ি আটকায় এবং একটি জিপে করে ডিবি কার্যালয়ের দিকে নিয়ে যায়।”

ওই অনুষ্ঠান থেকে ফেরার পথেই এম কে আনোয়ার ও রফিকুল ইসলাম মিয়া পুলিশের হাতে আটক হন বলে আনোয়ারের এপিএস বশির আহমেদ জানান।

এর আগে বিকাল ৩টায় গুলশানে বিএনপি চেয়ারপার্সনের ১৮ দলীয় জোটের বৈঠক শেষে রবি থেকে মঙ্গল তিন দিনের হরতাল কর্মসূচি ঘোষণা করেন বিএনপির ভারপ্রাপ্ত মহাসচিব মির্জা ফখরুল ইসলাম আলমগীর।

ওই বৈঠক শেষে জোট নেতারা ওই কার্যালয় থেকে চলে যাওয়ার পর বিকাল ৫টার দিকে সেখানে বিপুল সংখ্যক পুলিশ মোতায়েন করা হয়।

মহানগর পুলিশের গুলশান জোনের সহকারী কমিশনার নুরুল আমীন বাড়তি পুলিশ মোতায়েনের বিষয়টি স্বীকার করে বিডিনিউজ টোয়েন্টিফোর ডটকমকে বলেন, “বিরোধী দলীয় নেতার নিরাপত্তার স্বার্থেই তার অফিস ও বাসার আশেপাশে নিরাপত্তা জোরদার করা হয়েছে।”

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Bangladesh means very little from a strategic point of view. As it should be. But there are things going on.

In India's view, Bangladesh presents more of a nuisance. By looking geography, Bangladesh basically cuts in right between the north east states from the mainland. They only have the "chicken neck" to connect them.

That part of the country had been wracked by various insurgencies since the 60's, and still have security vulnerabilities from them. ULFA, Bodos, Nagas (the very first insurgency if I'm not mistaken).......you name it. Yes, there have been improvements, but still they have security vulnerabilities.

Given the security situation and the geography, common sense would indicate that India needs the cooperation of Bangladesh to counter the various insurgencies coming from the north east.

Not to mention, the sheer size of the border measuring 2,429 miles. And "scattered" everywhere. That makes it a porous one. One where those insurgents can take cover easily within the vast, untamed jungles. India also shares the largest border with Bangladesh as well, not Pakistan or China.

India is not worried about BNP? I'd be surprised if they aren't. The AL will assure India's security. In fact, there may be a strong correlation between the AL staying in power, and at least some degree of security improvement in the north east. But it's not like there aren't any insurgents hiding in Bangladesh. There were reports of their presence. An unrealistic expectation. The problem lies with the north eastern communities themselves, and not with Bangladesh, China or Pakistan. Or even mainland India for that matter.

What about Jamaat? They despise them, and perhaps would like them eliminated to make their influence more......meaningful. They fought hard in 71', and seeing a party that opposed separation of Pakistan as an insult to their honor. Jamaat itself saw India as bullying, and perhaps that's what they are all about. It's too small of a party to make any major impact. Nonetheless, it is a comparatively well organized party.

What about America? The visiting American officials have said many times that they do not want to see violence. What does that mean?

Given that the AL comes to power after the next elections, they'll cut Jamaat like grass with a lawn mower. What will Jamaat do? Their members will go underground where they can mingle with more powerful groups. Armed too. The Hefajotis have massive support from Bangladesh's poor rural community as well.

Simply put it, even 1% of Bangladesh's population is a lot. We know that America is at war with an enemy that cannot be seen, or heard from. But it can indeed kill. Would they want to see more numbers added to their already weakening strength? Very unlikely. They want Jamaat to remain as a legal party as it always had been. It does not matter if they are bad or a minority.

People who say that Jamaat should be permanently banned do not understand that one of the very basic fundamentals of a democracy is to let the minority survive. And what the AL is doing, is not democracy. A tragic reminiscence of the early 70's.

If Modi is to come to power, the AL and the Sheikhs would be left more vulnerable since they do not have any form of understanding with the BJP. In fact, BJP works very little in regards to Bangladesh. The only thing in their mind is deporting illegal immigrants. But, that doesn't not mean that would be the end of Indian bullying either. It might increase in the region.

Interestingly, assuring Modi's security from the Indian Mujaheddin is said to be one of Indian security establishment's greatest challenges. Even as an opposition leader, they have to work quite a lot for his security. Him coming to power may even pose greater security challenges from the entire region.
 
What about Jamaat? They despise them, and perhaps would like them eliminated to make their influence more......meaningful. They fought hard in 71', and seeing a party that opposed separation of Pakistan as an insult to their honor. Jamaat itself saw India as bullying, and perhaps that's what they are all about. It's too small of a party to make any major impact. Nonetheless, it is a comparatively well organized party.
What about America? The visiting American officials have said many times that they do not want to see violence. What does that mean?
Given that the AL comes to power after the next elections, they'll cut Jamaat like grass with a lawn mower. What will Jamaat do? Their members will go underground where they can mingle with more powerful groups. Armed too. The Hefajotis have massive support from Bangladesh's poor rural community as well.
Simply put it, even 1% of Bangladesh's population is a lot. We know that America is at war with an enemy that cannot be seen, or heard from. But it can indeed kill. Would they want to see more numbers added to their already weakening strength? Very unlikely. They want Jamaat to remain as a legal party as it always had been. It does not matter if they are bad or a minority.

India despises Jamaat or not is not a concern for me, point is how can they justify their interference in Bangladeshi matters just by pointing at Jamaat's ideologies? Jamaat is not that influential (popularity-wise) to radicalize Bangladesh or make it a terrorist infested nation. Moreover, if Jamaat is eliminated would it really increase Indian influence? I mean we still have BNP, even Ershad at times becomes anti-India.

India is not worried about BNP? I'd be surprised if they aren't. The AL will assure India's security. In fact, there may be a strong correlation between the AL staying in power, and at least some degree of security improvement in the north east. But it's not like there aren't any insurgents hiding in Bangladesh. There were reports of their presence. An unrealistic expectation. The problem lies with the north eastern communities themselves, and not with Bangladesh, China or Pakistan. Or even mainland India for that matter.

True ...

If Modi is to come to power, the AL and the Sheikhs would be left more vulnerable since they do not have any form of understanding with the BJP. In fact, BJP works very little in regards to Bangladesh. The only thing in their mind is deporting illegal immigrants. But, that doesn't not mean that would be the end of Indian bullying either. It might increase in the region.

That illegal immigrant thing is just for the sake of securing votes, they held the power before yet never took the matter officially with Bangladesh. Even they know the reality! :lol:
 
India despises Jamaat or not is not a concern for me, point is how can they justify their interference in Bangladeshi matters just by pointing at Jamaat's ideologies? Jamaat is not that influential (popularity-wise) to radicalize Bangladesh or make it a terrorist infested nation. Moreover, if Jamaat is eliminated would it really increase Indian influence? I mean we still have BNP, even Ershad at times becomes anti-India.

Jamaat as a legal party means very little for Bangladesh. Let alone the region. Maybe India does despise them, but that's not the major issue.

The main point are those north eastern insurgents using Bangladeshi territory for their operations.

What I did say is that if the AL comes to power in the next term, they'll completely annihilate Jamaat. Along with perhaps other legal Islamist parties. There are many small parties of such in Bangladesh.

Given that will happen, they; along with perhaps other Islamist lackeys would be forced to move underground. They'd be forced to not just to make their ideology survive, but for them to survive.

That is what the Americans do not want. They don't want this to get out of control. By all means, they want the war on terrorism under control. In their view, they won't take any chances to make the terrorists they are fighting stronger. They won't make any compromises on this. It doesn't matter what some third-class party like Awami League thinks.

One cannot kill an ideology no matter how small.


It's what they should do. If they can't even take care of themselves for FIFTY YEARS!!!! Then what kind of future do they want? Gosh, somebody really need to tell those people something. I'm yet to see a single capable north eastern leader.

That illegal immigrant thing is just for the sake of securing votes, they held the power before yet never took the matter officially with Bangladesh. Even they know the reality! :lol:

Well, India have good relations with the AL. Especially them Congress. I'm yet to see any official concern to Bangladesh for that matter :lol:

I say it's their immigration system, let them figure it out.
 
What I did say is that if the AL comes to power in the next term, they'll completely annihilate Jamaat. Along with perhaps other legal Islamist parties. There are many small parties of such in Bangladesh.
Given that will happen, they; along with perhaps other Islamist lackeys would be forced to move underground. They'd be forced to not just to make their ideology survive, but for them to survive.

Personally I really don't care whatever happens to Jamaat but yeah never thought in this way, complete annihilation of Jamaat could be the worse case scenario.

It's what they should do. If they can't even take care of themselves for FIFTY YEARS!!!! Then what kind of future do they want? Gosh, somebody really need to tell those people something. I'm yet to see a single capable north eastern leader.

They are confused lots, both the North Easterners and the mainland Indians, personally I feel the people of North East are just victims of some dirty politics. Anyway, the sooner they sort these things out, the better for the region.
 
True,true,India don't want Bangladesh,at all.
India wants transit,free of cost.
India wants corridors, free of cost.
India wants port,free of cost.
India wants open market,free of tax.
India wants business, free of tax.
India wants AL in power.
India wants interference in BD politics.
India wants Bangladesh as vessel state.
India wants to control BD politically and financially.
India wants to make BD ,another Nepal.
India wants to make BD ppls lives miserable.
In turn Bangladesh and Bangladeshis don't want anything from India.
We just gonna fc.k India till it cry uncle.:omghaha:
 
Barrister Rafiqul Islam normally not a very visible person recently pointed out that India is interfering and instigating trouble in Bangladesh. So south block instructed Awami thugs to hush him up. These arrest of BNP standing committee members to give boost indian lobby. This will not work.

This evening Indian backed Awami thugs also arrested KZ personal assistant and Abdul Awal Mintu, ex FBCCI president.
 
They are confused lots, both the North Easterners and the mainland Indians, personally I feel the people of North East are just victims of some dirty politics. Anyway, the sooner they sort these things out, the better for the region.

Their problem? They don't listen. You can see right in this very forum.
 
India should capture bangladesh and occupy it instead.
 
What is India planning for Bangladesh?

M. Serajul Islam

The Times of India carried an article by Subhir Bhaumik in its issue of November 1 on the turbulent politics in Bangladesh. He has urged New Delhi to militarily intervene in Bangladesh to keep the Awami League in power so that the BNP and its fundamentalist allies do not assume power! The article would have been trashed except for the paper that carried it. The Times of India is not just any newspaper; it is an opinion maker in New Delhi. Therefore it is unbelievable that it published this article. Democratic India’s leading newspaper has advocated New Delhi to intervene in a small neighbour militarily so that there would be no democratic elections there and a regime that serves its interests would retain power.

The card the writer used to encourage New Delhi to intervene in favour of the Awami League is the one the ruling party has played as its final one to deal with the opposition’s demand for election under the caretaker government (CTG), which would, as politics has emerged in Bangladesh, ensure the BNP to assume power. Subhir Bhaumik’s argues: “As Bangladesh slides into a violent imbroglio, India appears nervous over the future of its east and northeast which are afflicted by violent statehood movements and insurgencies. It cannot afford a hostile government in Dhaka. This, in a way, revives the pre-1971 scenario where a similar situation forced India to back the Bengali insurrection and militarily intervene in East Pakistan, braving threats of a US naval intervention.” There is an eerie similarity between the fears that Subhir Bhaumik raises; the line that the ruling Awami League is taking to create misgivings in the minds of the people about the BNP and reports in Indian media and pro-AL media in the country. Something deceitful and calamitous is afoot that should wake up the people of Bangladesh because the sovereignty of the country is under threat.

Is it a kite flying?
Is The Times of India kite flying? The ruling party has made clear that it has little or no intention to give the BNP what it wants. It does not need a crystal ball to predict why. Public opinion polls, credible ones, have shown that the BNP’s acceptance among the people is on the rise, too dangerously for the ruling party’s comfort. A daily Prothom Alo poll in September had shown that 50.6% people supported the BNP. Another PA poll taken before the city corporation elections had predicted the humiliating defeats of the AL backed candidates. The poll conducted by Daily Star/Asia Foundation taken most recently has shown BNP’s acceptance rise to 55% against 28% of the AL. The DS/AF poll is alarming for the AL. A 55% support in Bangladesh’s once past the post system of election would mean over 250 seats in the parliament. The AL is also facing the elections as the incumbent where in the country’s history; incumbents have all failed to win. Therefore the AL has lately been playing its last card against the BNP which is an attempt to wrap the card of terrorist/Islamic fundamentalist on its back in order to explain to the people why the BNP could not be trusted and at the same time, convince the country’s foreign friends that they need to back the AL if they want to stop Islamic fundamentalism and terrorism. The news appearing in Indian media that Islamic fundamentalism and ISI are active is therefore designed to help the AL in making its case with the people. Subhir Bhaumik is clearly a part of this effort, to create a scare to encourage people towards the AL. In the last five years, the AL led government has cooperated with India on security like no past Bangladesh government. Subhir Bhaumik has underlined this fact in his article correctly. As part of this security cooperation, Bangladesh and Indian security/intelligence agencies have carried out determined efforts to dismantle ISI footholds in Bangladesh. There is reason to believe that this Indian task is not yet complete. India needs another AL term to complete the task. Therefore, this sudden spate of news in the Indian media about rising Islamic fundamentalism together with Subhir Bhaumik’s article in the Times of India smells rat.

BAKSAL-type elections
So far, the BNP has not stepped into the trap that has enhanced the ruling party’s insistence for BAKSAL type elections. It is afraid of facing the BNP in an “inclusive” election because it knows that it would lose such an election comprehensively as the opinion polls have clearly hinted. In India, a section backed by its intelligence that Subhir Bhaumik represents is also of the same opinion. Thus his article has been written with a myopic vision where he has gone into denial over the present political realities in Bangladesh. He therefore did a good job in undermining the efforts of the US Ambassador and his trip to New Delhi whose government is favouring “inclusive” election in Bangladesh. He gave the impression that Dan Mozena’s trip to New Delhi made the Indians unhappy and that he lied in the media when he said that India and the US were on the same page on the political situation in Bangladesh for which New Delhi took particular umbrage.

Washington’s page is clear to everyone. It wants a free, fair and inclusive national election. The US Secretary John Kerry has written letters to the two leaders to this effect. Therefore if Washington and New Delhi were on different pages, it would mean New Delhi supports a BAKSAL type of election in Bangladesh. However, an unnamed Indian External Affairs Ministry official had said after Dan Mozena’s meeting that the two sides agreed on “inclusive” national elections and the need for vigilance on terrorism and acts of insurgency that leads to conclude that there is difference of opinion in New Delhi between its political leaders and the intelligence sources. Subhir Bhaumik’s attempt to destroy the credibility of the US Ambassador by describing him as a member of the BNP Executive Committee was intended to pre-empt an US-India initiative for “inclusive” elections. His distortion of geo-politics underlines his ill intention, which is to ensure that the political impasse in Bangladesh should not be resolved by “inclusive” national elections that the overwhelming majority of the people of Bangladesh want. His article would thus find positive vibes only in a section of the ruling party that wants to remain in power by “hook or by crook.”

Facts distorted
The article was not restricted to distortion of facts and geopolitics. Its theme is demeaning to Bangladeshis. Subhir Bhaumik wrote that if Washington is using all within its means to further its national interests (that is not borne out by facts), India should carve out its interests for which he thinks even military intervention is an Indian right! He thus concluded that Bangladesh is like Sikkim and foreign powers could play with it like a football!! Subhir Bhaumik has also gone into denial over US-India strategic partnership unveiled two years ago by President Obama for containing China in Southeast Asia and the Pacific. There are too many other elements of this strategic partnership that cannot be examined here but to think that New Delhi would go to denial over these to install AL by military intervention would be possible only if India’s political leadership too were in similar denial as Subhir Bhaumik. Then what about India’s case to be a Permanent Member of the UN Security Council? Would that be enhanced if India militarily intervened in a smaller neighbour to circumvent the democratic process and install a client to serve its narrow national interests?

Subhir Bhaumik’s reference to 1971 is the most absurd part of his article. The Awami League is in a political mess today where any comparison to what its position was in 1971 is ridiculous. The credible opinion polls have underlined that not to be the case with 70% and more of the people supporting “inclusive” national elections against the AL insistence of one-party BAKSAL type elections. Therefore if India intervened militarily now, it would be intervening in favour of an Awami League that is at opposite end to what its position in Bangladesh was in 1971. Today, the AL is determined upon retaining power by holding elections without the opposition whose demand for “inclusive” elections has the support of the majority of the people. The Awami League today is engaged in suppressing the will of the majority by force whereas in 1971 under the leadership of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, it had united the country’s 75 million people. Therefore India’s intervention in Bangladesh now would be like India intervening in 1971 on behalf of the Pakistani military!

Intelligence directs Delhi’s policy?
If the Awami League has a few friends like Subhir Bhaumik, it wouldn’t need as, the expression goes, enemies to destroy itself. The BNP could stand by the sideline and watch its demise. Subhir Bhaumik has written his piece in complete denial of everything except the single-minded devotion of seeing Indian military in Dhaka. He has forgotten how India has left the AL in the lurch with betrayal on the Teesta and LBA deals and unabated killings in the border that has not left even those who support the Awami League disappointed and frustrated. If India were to now intervene for AL militarily and install it in power, it would be the end of India’s acceptance in Bangladesh in any form and the death knell of Awami League where the two could stay together, hand-in-hand, shoulder to shoulder, not by India’s military intervention alone but by that military stationed in Bangladesh permanently by making Bangladesh another Sikkim.
That of course is not going to happen although in the short term, if insanity grips New Delhi, Bangladesh would have to fight another liberation war all over again to defeat a possible Indian military invasion as it did with the Pakistani military invasion. That is the concern of many in Bangladesh who would like to remember India for its 1971 role because so far where all friends of Bangladesh have urged the AL led government to talk with the opposition to hold “inclusive” national elections, India has not yet entered into the equation. It appears that New Delhi is under pressure of its intelligence agencies who need another AL term for a permanent foothold in Bangladesh that cannot be realized because the AL’s chances of another term in power democratically has become impossible. The intelligence agencies are therefore urging their political leaders to see their way and place the AL in power “by hook or by crook”.

Holiday

So you trust that junk "Times of India".You guys very well know about our oversensationalize Indian Media.But GOI will not dependent them for policy making.
BNP make all these problems .It can make BD and cooperate India with good intention.Instead they help ULFA and other insurgents.We care only about our security.If BD is 1000km away from us .we dont care at all.But turning a blind eye in BD.
make a lot of trouble in North east area of India.Sorry we cant do that.But military intervention like idiotic policy cant expected and we will not use or military against any other country until our national security in grave threat.Again we use our ,military only when our national security in grave threat.
 
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True,true,India don't want Bangladesh,at all.
India wants transit,free of cost.
India wants corridors, free of cost.
India wants port,free of cost.
India wants open market,free of tax.
India wants business, free of tax.
India wants AL in power.
India wants interference in BD politics.
India wants Bangladesh as vessel state.
India wants to control BD politically and financially.
India wants to make BD ,another Nepal.
India wants to make BD ppls lives miserable.
In turn Bangladesh and Bangladeshis don't want anything from India.
We just gonna fc.k India till it cry uncle.:omghaha:


We love our little BD brothers and we are just being caring to them, so that they don't stray and make mistakes. :)
 
My demand to BJP.

Just fence the border with 15 feet high barbed wire and shoot all the BDies on border itself who tries to trespass and force back the illegal BDeshi immigrants into their motherland and if AL gets on board on that then extend all help AL needs to annihilate the Jamaties .
 
India should capture bangladesh and occupy it instead.

I don't think India has such plan. If there was such plan they would not have helped BD to get independence. We have only one neighbor India in real sense. Basically Bangladesh is completely inside Indian map. So if anything happens in Bangladesh it impacts India.
 
What I want to see in Bangladesh

1. Electrified Border fence all along the border, arm automated machine guns that will fire on anyone approaching nearby. These can be deactivated only by the BSF DIG.

2. Push the entire BD illegal population in India to the Indian enclaves and then relinquish claim to these lands - giving them to BD. In return we can have some BD lands in exchange.

3. Sanction a Multi Billion dollar credit for the Budget of Bangladesh. (that's the baniya in me talking)

4. Offer Indian military equipment - especially small arms.

5. Invest in building a better railway infrastructure in BD (that will be compatible with Indian Railways.) Build a line from Rangpur to Jessore, Kolkata to Dhaka to Mymensingh to Manipur. :D In return of 50% waiver of the cost, we will use this :D :D
 

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