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What if? Japan does not attack the US in 1941

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Instead of dividing its forces over a huge area, occupying the Philippines, HK and forcing the US into the war, On Dec 7, 1941 Japan invades with overwhelming force Thailand, Malaya-Singapore and Ceylon simultaneously.
In 2 weeks Japan sinks most of the eastern fleet and captures large fuel stores, invaluable port facilities, etc, and expels the RN from the Indian Ocean. Japan offers the Indian nationalists air support from Ceylon in their independence war. As the British lose territory, Japanese planes start flying from airfields in India, supporting further the Indian forces. Japan also offers air support to the Burmese from Thailand to fight for their Independen. Since the British cannot supply their forces in India and Burma they have to grant these countries their indepedence.

The American public praises Japan for liberating India and Burma and stops supporting Britain, considering it a lost cause, so Roosevelt has to cancel L-L.

On January 20, 1942 Japan invades Abadan (capturing the largest refinery in Eurasia), Madagascar (with a small force, since France can hardly defend it) and Aden, links up with the rest of the axis and displaces the Soviets from Persia and the British from Iraq (the Indian troops have returned to their country of joined the Japanese) by March 1942.

In March 1942 Japan invades SA (gaining access to gold, diamonds, chromium, coal, etc, and to invaluable submarine bases for the axis in the South Atlantic) and Kenya from Madagascar.

With the British excluded from the Mediterranean and the Japanese advancing in the middle east, Turkey decides to join the axis, rather than being invaded.

In June 1942 German, Italian, Persian, Turkish and Japanese forces capture the Soviet oilfields in Baku and advance towards Stalingrad. Japan also occupies Vladivostok.

The British people realize that they cannot continue fighting after years of debacles and force Churchill to resign and his successor to sue for peace.

The axis concentrates on the USSR and has plenty of oil and minerals. Stalin knows that he cannot fight for years on two distant fronts and concentrates all his forces around the Urals, but is short of oil, grain, etc, In contrast, the Axis is occupying a huge agricultural area and has plenty of resources, labour, etc, So in the winter of 1943 Stalin has to agree to a permanent cease fire.
 
you forgot about one thing. if Japan does not attack the US in 1941, china would have been royally screwed for a very long time. literally

Initially, they thought that they can take the whole China within 3 months, but after 53 months, they still couldn't bring China to its knee. The result of underestimating the resilience of the Chinese people was a direct blow to their ego.

BTW, there is no "what if" in the real history. :coffee:
 
Instead of dividing its forces over a huge area, occupying the Philippines, HK and forcing the US into the war, On Dec 7, 1941 Japan invades with overwhelming force Thailand, Malaya-Singapore and Ceylon simultaneously.
Wouldn't work because the Japanese would run out of petroleum quickly due to the U.S. and Dutch oil embargoes imposed in 1940 - by December 1941 they had only a few months left. By early '41 the Japanese knew they'd either have to retreat from empire or seize Indonesia's oil wells. But they knew they couldn't seize Indonesia and hold it for long with the Western Fleets active. So the logical first target of the Japanese was the largest concentration of vulnerable enemy vessels - Pearl Harbor.
 
Perhaps India too.

Not really. You see, there were two factions fighting in Indian name. One was the Allied forces that were led by Britain's famous toilet cleaners Gandhi and his pet pooch Nehru. The other were on the Axis side, assisted trained and the courageous Azad Hind Fauj (Indian National Army). And Japanese were major backers of INA.

If Japan had not embroiled US in war, there'd be no Pakistan today, Japanese (much of Asia) and India would have been neighbors (through your territory, Germans would have conquered modern Western Europe while Italians would have taken over colonial holdings in South America.

Wouldn't work because the Japanese would run out of petroleum quickly due to the U.S. and Dutch oil embargoes imposed in 1940 - by December 1941 they had only a few months left. By early '41 the Japanese knew they'd either have to retreat from empire or seize Indonesia's oil wells. But they knew they couldn't seize Indonesia and hold it for long with the Western Fleets active. So the logical first target of the Japanese was the largest concentration of vulnerable enemy vessels - Pearl Harbor.

Without US, mainland Europe, except Russia, would have been exterminated. Russians gave the major sacrifice for Europe while you engaged the Japanese. Without Russia's war machine and American nukes, Axis would have taken over half the world by today.
 
Japan needed the Oil it was not an if but they had to secure the oil and they campaign was starting to bog down the Japanese due to the KMT-Communist fighting had the advantage but when they couldn't hold the whole China for long.
 
Japan With the Power of VETO in UN
One of the Smartest country in the world that Challenge USA in all ways..
North Korea Sleeping with their own Issues...
There is No violations In Yellow Sea.....
India Got Independence earlier of 1947
one of the largest economic in the World...


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you forgot about one thing. if Japan does not attack the US in 1941, china would have been royally screwed for a very long time. literally
1\Japan attacked US was because they had to. No matter, they attacting US or not, they would lose.

2\Even without the help of SU and US, Japan did not have the power to swallow the whole China.

3\It is also lucky for Japanese lose the war. For the passed 3000 years, there are only 2 times the foreigners having the chance defeated whole Chinese. Look what happend to them now? One has become a minority race and another has disappeared.
 
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