What If Every Country Ending in "Stan" United?

[dani92]

Central Asia Pakistan India Caucasus Iran were United culturally under the turko-persian culture until the British and Russian came in.

 

[Yankee-stani]

Central Asia Pakistan India Caucasus Iran were United culturally under the turko-persian culture until the British and Russian came in.

Central Asia and the Caucasus region were always a weird place trade routes and major cities were built but mind you lots of pillaging lots of empires be it the Persians,the Russians,Mongols, Chinese dynasty vying for control and banditry

*Status quo is good for stability at this point Russia and China are best suited running the region at the present its seems India,Pakistan and Iran will be just junior partners for the forseeable future

 

[dani92]

Central Asia and the Caucasus region were always a weird place trade routes and major cities were built but mind you lots of pillaging lots of empires be it the Persians,the Russians,Mongols, Chinese dynasty vying for control and banditry

*Status quo is good for stability at this point Russia and China are best suited running the region at the present its seems India,Pakistan and Iran will be just junior partners for the forseeable future

Yes just like during the great game Russia and Britain were running things and the Qajars and ottomans were junior partners. I think Russia and China should take control and kick America out of these regions because East Asia ,south China sea, Central Asia, caspian and East Europe were always backyard for Russia and China just how the Middle East and South Asia was a backyard of England or Latin America was backyard of America. I find it an acceptable that the Americans bark at Russia and china when it comes to Latin America specially Cuba and Venezuela and even though they have the gulf as their backyard they continue to meddle in Russia and China backyard but they say will not allowing to have presence in Latin America because it’s our backyard yet the interfere in Balkans and Eastern Europe.

 

[Yankee-stani]

Yes just like during the great game Russia and Britain were running things and the Qajars and ottomans were junior partners. I think Russia and China should take control and kick America out of these regions because East Asia ,south China sea, Central Asia, caspian and East Europe were always backyard for Russia and China just how the Middle East and South Asia was a backyard of England or Latin America was backyard of America. I find it an acceptable that the Americans bark at Russia and china when it comes to Latin America specially Cuba and Venezuela and even though they have the gulf as their backyard they continue to meddle in Russia and China backyard but they say will not allowing to have presence in Latin America because it’s our backyard yet the interfere in Balkans and Eastern Europe.

British were just Merchants and Raiders they have no bloody backyard heck even their own daughter America kicked them out screw the Anglosphere and Anglos in general if there is one school of geo-politics I despise its Atlanticism and their lackeys again I am not Chinese or Russian shrill they are both hegemonic powers but Eurasianism at least brings some balance to the world order and allows Middle Powers a say in the world stage eg-Iran,Pakistan,India,Indonesia,KSA,Egypt,Brazil,Germany,etc while Atlanticism revolves on Team America and their junior partner Britain.

 

[xyxmt]

Pakistan only need Pushtoon area of Afghanistan

 

[Old School]

The name will be then BARBADIstan with Barbad Barbadinov as the president for life. Each province will be governed by a warlord with own army, passports and currencies.

 

[Salahuddin Ayyubi]

Our historic region extends from Indus River (Sappta Sindhava) all the way up to Ferghana.

Even the people of Southern Uzbekistan like Termez (Tirmidh) look exactly like Pakistanis, it is also the hottest place in Uzbekistan.

Once Afghanistan and Pakistan merge naturally, others will join as well. Most likely Tajikstan and Uzbekistan. It may become a necessity as world events push us together.

Pakistan represents a gift to this region, as we survived Soviet invasion and preserved our Islamic culture which were lost by our brothers and sisters in the CARs.



Actually we are mostly Iranics too (from Scythian, Kushan, and Hepthalite origin.) IVC and Greek remnants were swamped by Iranic settlement starting from around 1 bc.

However Punjabi and Sindhi languages mixed and melded into what it is today by heavily borrowing from many sources including ancient IVC, Iranics, Persians, Arabs, and Turks/Mongols. In turn Punjabi was the main precursor to Urdu, which further borrowed from Dari. It makes Urdu in its highest form a dialect of Dari (Eastern Persian.)

You sir are u educated when it comes to archeological studies. Please stop spreading false theories.

 

[Salahuddin Ayyubi]

I have met several Central Asians they are biggest Russophiles ever not Pakostaniphiles they view Pakistanis and Afghans as fundamentalist types something they dont want in their Soviet created entities tho I would not say they hate us but compared to fantasies Pakistanis have had about the region since the 90s and break up of the Soviet Union most see Pakistan as just random Muslim country in fact I think China has much bigger economic influence there more than Russia now economic wise I am not saying ignoring the stans in Eurasia but let's be realistic here we should expand ties for energy but any other type of influence is not likely we had a chance in the 90s and blew it

*Personally if you ask me none of these Central Asian stans have a long history just like the Balkans most were artificial entities made by Stalin in the 1930s Pakistan has more longer and ancient history .These "stans" who got independence in the early 90s were cause by greedy Soviet apprachichicks thanks to Gorby" failed Glasnost and Perestrokia policies wanted more money from west/US but instead they got reliant more on China but besides Russia still wields a lot of influence via the CSTO and the Eurasian Economic Union besides the Ruskies still have millions living there still mainly in Kazakhstan and parts of Kyrgyzstan still in 2020.

@Mangus Ortus Novem @Indus Pakistan

Where do you think your and my ancestors came from??

We're artificially created just like they are

Name me a single Muslim kingdom that originated from with in the current borders of Pakistan and spread out??? Not one single kingdom. We've been conquered numerous times by outside forces, but we've never done the conquering. That's our history [emoji23]

Those central Asian states are more homogeneous than we are [emoji28][emoji23]

 

[Yankee-stani]

Where do you think your and my ancestors came from??

We're artificially created just like they are

Name me a single Muslim kingdom that originated from with in the current borders of Pakistan and spread out??? Not one single kingdom. We've been conquered numerous times by outside forces, but we've never done the conquering. That's our history [emoji23]

Those central Asian states are more homogeneous than we are [emoji28][emoji23]

Not really they are just better administrators despite being ethnically heterogeneous thanks to the Soviet Union they built up those nice surveillance tactics not denying Pakistanis have a lot of Central Asian origins but that's much a while back

 

[War Historian]

Very interesting... Not that no one has given this a thought before... Since this is wishful or aspirational stuff... The state will combine three major ethnic groups... Turkics, Iranics and Punjabis/Sindhis(mix of previous two and indigenous populations)... In many ways it will be a stabilizing force and in other it will create or renew tensions with neighboring states including China for it's ethnic Uighurs. In Iran for it's ethnic Baloch and existing one with Indian Kashmir. Russians may choose leaving such construct unless they're given some some especial courtesies such as maintaining Russian language and keeping them in upper echelons of power in former Soviet states. Turkey in this case will be a natural ally whereas Iran and India nature foes. Interesting.

Sir ,
Chaudhary Rehmat Ali suggest the name of Pakistan, in his paper Now or Never, latter on when Pakistan very Near to a reality in 1946 he write an other paper named,
Pak States of Asia.
In this paper he proposed to add Afghanistan, and 5 Soviet Socialist Republic Kazakhstan, Karghizstan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan,Turkmanistan and (on that time under Soviet control) East Turkistan.
Is his paper he said, that this new union will replace the Soviet union in the region. All states of the union would be free all trades except flag , defence and single currency.

Why don't you make a simple Google search before writing nonsense here...sthan is an old Sanskrit word which means place.
.avestan( old persian)which is a sister language of Sanskrit also has that word...I don't know whether it is there in Turkish or not...if it is then it must have borrowed it from Persian.
Sanskrit and Persian belong to same family of languages( indo Iranian branch of indo european) whereas Turkish fall under Ural Altaic.
See..you revealed your own lack of knowledge..better keep your mouth shut rather than displaying your stupidity.

Ohhh please take your Sanskrit manjan to some where else.
In each and every thread your sankrit seller came to ruin the discussion.

 

[aryadravida]

Sir ,
Chaudhary Rehmat Ali suggest the name of Pakistan, in his paper Now or Never, latter on when Pakistan very Near to a reality in 1946 he write an other paper named,
Pak States of Asia.
In this paper he proposed to add Afghanistan, and 5 Soviet Socialist Republic Kazakhstan, Karghizstan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan,Turkmanistan and (on that time under Soviet control) East Turkistan.
Is his paper he said, that this new union will replace the Soviet union in the region. All states of the union would be free all trades except flag , defence and single currency.


Ohhh please take your Sanskrit manjan to some where else.
In each and every thread your sankrit seller came to ruin the discussion.

My post was in response to the man who said Stan was a Persian word..he wanted this Persian belt to come together..he was so excited to cut himself anything from India....but poor fellow doesn't know his country has a Sanskrit word in it( stan)

 

[War Historian]

My post was in response to the man who said Stan was a Persian word..he wanted this Persian belt to come together..he was so excited to cut himself anything from India....but poor fellow doesn't know his country has a Sanskrit word in it( stan)

Ok you finish your job to inform us about sans krit. Now you can go home and sleep . Ok bye

 

[-=virus=-]

You'd have one hell of a civil war.

 

[Salahuddin Ayyubi]

Not really they are just better administrators despite being ethnically heterogeneous thanks to the Soviet Union they built up those nice surveillance tactics not denying Pakistanis have a lot of Central Asian origins but that's much a while back

I wasn't talking about the Turkic genetic influence on Pakistan, that's almost zero. I'm talking about the Aryan migration. We settled in central Asia for centuries before migrating down to indus and mixing with the native indian dravidians.