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What If Bengal emerged as a unified nation post 1947 ?

Following the dissolution of the British Raj, Should Bengal have emerged as an independent nation ?

  • Yes, Bengal should have emerged as an independent nation held together by Bengali Culture.

    Votes: 19 63.3%
  • No, as history has shown, Muslims & Dalits couldn't have lived with the abusive landowning brahmins.

    Votes: 11 36.7%

  • Total voters
    30
  • Poll closed .
It would be disastrous, communal violence and a cultural divide are some of the problems it would suffer from. Anyways the present day West Bengal, it's social fabric is very alien to us. They have problems declaring who they are, they are shy to call themselves Bengali, they do not speak their language proudly, they see their own and still choose to speak in English or whatever foreign language because they deem their own language as 3rd class and their culture as backwards but we Bangladeshis are proud to speak our language and our dialect. This is how both sectors have evolved since separation and so it's been worthwhile.

Also in my opinion the fact that this thread has emerged is ridiculous. When have you ever heard a Bangladeshi propose a "What if" Bengal was united, many Hindus have an innate hate for the Muslim ilk and some, not all, abhor us for being Muslim. Despite the Bangladeshi government being complete bonkers, the common folk of BD are conservative Muslims and all they know is Islam.
 
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Well I voted No. Obviously cuz of The issue of communal tensions. I think Bengal being a part of Pakistan was sumwhat of a necessity for the realisation of Bangladesh as it is now . And that realisation wudve translated into sumthing else nd not the Bangladesh that we know now if Bengal were to be a separate independent state in 1947.
Yes because sadly West Bengal was infested with hindutva ideology of Vinayak savarkar by this time. I voted yes at first, but later changed it to no. As Lebanon is an example for people.

Truly nowadays religious identity is playing major role in society . So perhaps it would be a major problem in this region. And the major problem is the cow belt , and Bangladesh is isolated from Muslim world . So if there was no cow belt , then yes it was possible.
 
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And, it was not a million soldier sacrifice. India lost only 1,300 IA troops in the east but won a war that changed the geo-politics of South Asia. Now, tell me how would you have won such a war without us helping you?

India should thank us for awarding such a win almost without no loss of manpower.

we helped you in the bangladesh war of liberation , we spilled our blood for you . we are happy that you got liberated , this was beneficial for both of us .
 
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Yes because sadly West Bengal was infested with hindutva ideology of Vinayak savarkar by this time. I voted yes at first, but later changed it to no. As Lebanon is an example for people.

Truly nowadays religious identity is playing major role in society . So perhaps it would be a major problem in this region. And the major problem is the cow belt , and Bangladesh is isolated from Muslim world . So if there was no cow belt , then yes it was possible.

actually we hindus don't want to live with you in an united geographical area it will create endless problems , we can live amicably as a separate country as we are today .
 
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actually we hindus don't want to live with you in an united geographical area it will create endless problems , we can live amicably as a separate country as we are today .

Speak for yourself and your cow-belt Hindus. The rest of Hindus in India don't share in your ideology.

@Joe Shearer Dada this may be a waste of time educating every garden variety RSS schmuck, but why not provide equal opportunity to provide a platform for displays of their folly? Could be entertaining. :-)
 
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Speak for yourself and your cow-belt Hindus. The rest of Hindus in India don't share in your ideology.

@Joe Shearer Dada this may be a waste of time educating every garden variety RSS schmuck, but why not provide equal opportunity to provide a platform for displays of their folly? Could be entertaining. :-)

partition was best thing for hindus and muslims , hindus can't live with muslims .
 
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hindus Uneducated or semi-educated people can't live with muslims be given power to govern educated enlightened populace.

I corrected your statement above.

India was founded (as far as I know) with the idea of mutual respect to people with different beliefs, religions, caste and creed.

Not with the idea that Muslims will be driven out of India or converted to Hindus to make a 'Hindu Rashtra'.

The founders of India had their heads screwed on better than your Chaiwala.

Your secessionist and discriminatory principles that you espouse are certainly in the minority in India. Although you have temporarily convinced some Indians to espouse hate.

Learn from Bangladesh on how to respect minorities and how to live with each other - with mutual respect, peace and harmony.

These are the foundations of a stable, prosperous and wealthy society. Whose per capita GDP will have exceeded yours as we speak.

Your Modi/RSS/Shivsena/BJP/CAA/NRC/Article 370 may win a few votes for now - but Indian people will wise up pretty soon when they see their personal well being and wealth disappear compared to countries like ours. Hate ideologies will tear India apart. It already is...slide down further into the abyss....
 
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yes what i said is true , our problems would have been thousands of times more what we have today , if we had an united india with roughly equal no of muslims .

indians should thankful to jinnah sahab for what he did for us .

They will be another thousand times less if you give up kashmir as well.
 
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They will be another thousand times less if you give up kashmir as well.

kashmir is not a problem for us . but we are thankful to jinnah sahab , partition was blessing in disguise for us indians . it would have been better if muslims had migrated to pakistan leaving india . we would have been better with 2 percent muslim population , but because of nehru and gandhi partition was unsuccessful .
 
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I corrected your statement above.

India was founded (as far as I know) with the idea of mutual respect to people with different beliefs, religions, caste and creed.

Not with the idea that Muslims will be driven out of India or converted to Hindus to make a 'Hindu Rashtra'.

The founders of India had their heads screwed on better than your Chaiwala.

Your secessionist and discriminatory principles that you espouse are certainly in the minority in India. Although you have temporarily convinced some Indians to espouse hate.

Learn from Bangladesh on how to respect minorities and how to live with each other - with mutual respect, peace and harmony.

These are the foundations of a stable, prosperous and wealthy society. Whose per capita GDP will have exceeded yours as we speak.

Your Modi/RSS/Shivsena/BJP/CAA/NRC/Article 370 may win a few votes for now - but Indian people will wise up pretty soon when they see their personal well being and wealth disappear compared to countries like ours. Hate ideologies will tear India apart. It already is...slide down further into the abyss....

i am not fan of chaiwala or hindutwa , what i know muslims and hindus have history of thousand of years wars , hindus and muslims can't live with one another, muslims can't be loyal to a country where hindus are majority . taslima nasrin has described how intolerant you people are and how hindus are treated in bangladesh .
 
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i am not fan of chaiwala or hindutwa , what i know muslims and hindus have history of thousand of years wars , hindus and muslims can't live with one another, muslims can't be loyal to a country where hindus are majority . taslima nasrin has described how intolerant you people are and how hindus are treated in bangladesh .

Bangladesh, intolerant? Compared to India? :lol:

Have you even read any of Taslima's books in the original Bengali? They cannot be called respectful, thoughtful or tolerant pieces of prose and are closer to P0rn. She is a talentless muckraker and the only job she is good at is creating division among people and pissing off Mullahs. In English this is called 'disturbing the peace' and in most common law societies of the west this is a punishable offence.

If she wrote badly about Hinduism, you wouldn't have endorsed her so handily.

Most of the Hindus that left Bangladesh in the last twenty or thirty years have returned to Bangladesh from India because they have better opportunities in Bangladesh - they simply didn't like it in India, even as Hindus.

In fact Hindus are appointed to all important administrative posts in Bangladesh, in spite of chagrin from some Mullah quarters. No Hindu in Bangladesh can claim that they are the subject of ill treatment and torture, except maybe fringe cases. Most DC's, holder of important police posts and heads of civil administration are Hindus, thanks to quotas still in place.

In a subcontinental scenario, the strong will take advantage of the weak and people's homes (or temples) get vandalized, whether Hindu or Muslim - you cannot give religious color to these situations.

But Hindus don't get lynched or murdered in Bangladesh because they ate something contraband to Muslims, such as maybe Pork. In Bangladesh we believe in 'let live', which is obviously not the case in today's India under Modi.

Hindus (like in Mumbai housing societies for example) also dictate who can rent or buy an apartment there, and Muslims commonly get refused to rent property. You will never, ever find a scenario like this in Bangladesh. India is way, way worse. Shame!

So - your argument that Muslims are somehow to blame for inability to live peacefully with Hindus in India - does not hold water. It is extremist Hindu prejudice pure and simple, and discriminatory attitudes that are the result of it. Hindutva extremism is a problem, and to be proud of it is more of a problem.

To force a Muslim (under threat of violence) to chant 'Jai Sri Ram' is wrong, and no Bangladeshi ever did anything like this to a Hindu. Happens in India all the time. People get killed for eating beef too.

India is no longer a civilized country anymore. It is a backward country led there by Modi and like I said, sliding down further into the abyss every passing day.
 
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i am not fan of chaiwala or hindutwa , what i know muslims and hindus have history of thousand of years wars , hindus and muslims can't live with one another, muslims can't be loyal to a country where hindus are majority . taslima nasrin has described how intolerant you people are and how hindus are treated in bangladesh .

how Hindus are treated in Bangladesh? Here’s the truth thaT every Bangladeshi knows cuz the truth is all around us , Bangladesh ranks number one in the whole entire planet in terms of tolerance to the minorities. Even the Ethinic Pakistanis living in Geneva camp don’t face social discrimination let alone Hindus. It’s Indian facists like you that pisses me off.

There are a lot of Bengali Dalals in this forum that try to make love with Indians like you who accuse us of sumthing that is unheard of in our society. Hindus live in more peace in BD than they do In India itself. So don’t spread false propaganda here. People dislike me for callout you ppl often. You and your sanghi brethren are followers of a facist ideology.

How DARE you come here and lay such accusations while ur government has been waging a religious war between Muslims Nd Hindus in India. Lemme tell sumthing very clearly, FUDGE INDIA.FUDGE ALL OF YOU SANGHIS. We expanded our friendship to u but u always treated us horribly. Now we are moving away from your sphere. May PAKISTAN ND CHINA BEND YOU OVER AND GIVE IT TO YOU SOON.

you guys are a goddamn disgrace. You have never been to BD, yet u are such a huge scumbag that u spread lies about our treatment of our countrymen that are Hindus.Its a pity that sum of my countrymen do dalali for you ppl. You need to be confronted for ur lies.

And you mention Taslima Nasreen. Who is she? Was she a Hindu ? Was the Taslima Nasreen issue concentrated around Muslim Hindu conflicts in BD. No. The PROSTITUTE (that’s wat she is) was kicked out of our country cuz she spewed Blasphemy about our god and religion. Is that warranted? She wasn’t a Hindu, her identity was that she was a PROSTITUTE , Nd even if she was a Hindu, if she unprovokedly spewed blasphemy against our God and religion Nd if we strike back nd kick here prostitute arse out of our country is that called INTOLERANCE TOWARDS MINORITY? NO. ATTACKING THE FAITH OF MORE THAN A BILLION PPL AND JUST LAYING QUIET AFTER THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TOLERANCE TOWARDS MINORITIES. So shut ur mouth up . Hindus are living better than the Muslims in this country. They get special privileges, especially during the BAL governance they enjoy privileges that A Muslim can only dream of. Tell me one country you illiterate sanghi where the minorities get such special treatment? So shut up. I don’t know wat I’d do to u if u were in front Of me. I’d serve u fantastic tea like ur pilot Abhinandan.
 
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Get out of here you disgusting bigot
Kire maalu tui ki bolish re eishob? Biryani khash naki re Maalu? Naki Mayer muut khash ekhono? Maalu re toke biriyani khawa ki tor taak Mathar Brahman ra shikhiyechilo naki Mughal Muslim ra shikhichilo re? Ore Malu goru ke ma dakish, abar taar muut glass e dhele khash, tarpor abar Muslim bangali der bolish chamar. Tui to lota pati kheti re maalu jodi Muslim ra toke gosht ar biriyani khawa na shikhato. Tui to tor Mayer shathe mathe ghaash chibiye kheti go. O maalu re, 5 ta Hindu rajar naam bol to. Maalu re toke jodi keu sub continent er 5 ta rajar nam bolte bole tahole to tui laaf diya shobar age AKBAR AR JAHANGIR er naam bolish. Ore mutra paan kora maalu , tor goru gula ar tor Taak mathar pet ola Gopal Bhar Brahmanra ki Taj Mahal baniye chilo? Chup thak. Tor dhuti kole lengta kore dibo.
PS: To my Pakistani dear brothers, these Indian criminals may report my post but i said nothing abusive here, I just insulted him in a very wise manner so please allow me to keep it. I understand it’s in Bengali but it was a parody response so don’t listen to this Modi worshippers. God bless BD and Pakistan. Also to BD moderators if there is any, show me ur affection brothers

Tor nijer post tar bhasa por ar tarpor bojhar chesta kor keno rabindranath toder chasa chamar bolechilo.Arab er payer dhulo pujo kor ar bhando hujoor er samne giye ghar nede nede thik thik kor.Dine paanch bar nijeder gaand uncho kore matha nichu kore arab desh er dike kutti hoye pore thak. Ashoka,chandragupta,samudragupta,shivaji,ranjit singh.Aro ekshota bolte pari.Kota hindu bengali nobel prize winner ache,oscar winner ache gune dekhe ne.Puro subcontinent er muslim der tar dharekache kichu nei.Chotolok achish chili thakbi.Bhadralok hote ashish na.Ar amake quote korish na,chotolok er bhasa e uttor dite pochondo kori na.
 
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