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What happened When Right-wing activist Tried to Raise Indian Flag in Occupied Kashmir

To be brutally fair, that's their blood talking and not their faith.

Its a uniquely sub-continental thing. This crabs in a steel pail phenomenon.

But this feeling is much more intense in them
In Indians it may be an Individual thing

But for them it is a collective and a Nation wide phenomenon

This reflects in even silly things like cricket
Where India's victory against Bangladesh HURT THEM a LOT

And India's defeat to West Indies brought a smile on their face

If you have the time watch their TV talk shows

You will get a deep insight into their hearts

On the Other hand
We in India appreciate and applaud China's progress and wish to emulate it
 
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You are quite right. When there are others, Major Amin, Air Marshal Nur Khan and similar eminences, there is really no need for us to defend our claims. There are enough Pakistanis to do that for us.

Who is powerless to do what is quite apparent from these writings, including those of Z. A. Khan and Kaisar Tufail. I find that it is not worth entering into discussions citing anybody but Pakistani sources with a particular class of Pakistani, and try not to convey anything outside the writings of Pakistani authors themselves. It is far more rewarding to watch the incoherent fury that results.

And I also have articles and books written by Indian journalists, former defense minister and Indian army officers to prove my point and to refute your childish claims of converting stalemates in victories. But that is not the topic right now. So better to move on.
 
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And I also have articles and books written by Indian journalists, former defense minister and Indian army officers to prove my point and to refute your childish claims of converting stalemates in victories. But that is not the topic right now. So better to move on.

True.

We can discuss this some other time, some other thread. I shall await a suitable occasion with pleasure. For now, I defer to your wishes.
 
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What happened in reality was shocking.

A girl was molested by a civilian who wanted her to claim that the Army soldiers standing nearby had manhandled her. He and his friends pulled her away for 'examination' and started shouting slogans. Stone-pelting started soon after. The J&K Police arrived there, and shot two civilians who had nothing to do with the stone-pelting. The Army has announced an investigation, and punishment of the guilty, in spite of knowing that there is zero involvement of the Army in the incident, merely in order to cool down heated tempers and allow the truth to come out.

There is already a backlash among middle of the road civil society people against the gross manipulation of the situation by the Tehreek.


I think there is some connection between NIT case and this .
NIT issue hurt the Kashmiriyat culture .Next time they cant complain if one of them attacked in some other parts of India.
 
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I think there is some connection between NIT case and this .
NIT issue hurt the Kashmiriyat culture .Next time they cant complain if one of them attacked in some other parts of India.

I read this a few hours back and felt a physical pang of hurt.

A Kashmiri student can and must complain, and should never have to complain if one of them is attacked in any other part of India. His constitutional rights are NOT conditional; even if he himself were to be directly involved in any anti-state activity, his rights never, ever stop to be in existence. That is the rule of law, and that is what we as a nation represent. If we do not represent that, why are we citizens of such a nation?
 
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I read this a few hours back and felt a physical pang of hurt.

A Kashmiri student can and must complain, and should never have to complain if one of them is attacked in any other part of India. His constitutional rights are NOT conditional; even if he himself were to be directly involved in any anti-state activity, his rights never, ever stop to be in existence. That is the rule of law, and that is what we as a nation represent. If we do not represent that, I DO NOT WANT TO BE A CITIZEN OF SUCH A NATION.

There is a co alignment of interests here. Far too many coincidences. Some groups wants to keep the pot simmering in Kashmir and the right wing is taking the bait.

When it comes to Kashmir, no news is good news.
 
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I read this a few hours back and felt a physical pang of hurt.

A Kashmiri student can and must complain, and should never have to complain if one of them is attacked in any other part of India. His constitutional rights are NOT conditional; even if he himself were to be directly involved in any anti-state activity, his rights never, ever stop to be in existence. That is the rule of law, and that is what we as a nation represent. If we do not represent that, why are we citizens of such a nation?

Didnt meant that .
I was talking about a possibility of foul political play in this issue
There was a complain about other Indians among Kashmiri hardliners that we are too intolerant .Incidents happened against them in universities in UP ignited sharp reactions from Kashmiris.
J&K is the integral part of India and will always remains like that .We are giving benefits to them even if they are involving in a lots of anti national activities with foreign support .Because of that ,I think our nations represent entire citizens including Kashmiris .
That is the power of our nation.These same balanced approach of majority of Indians protected us and our nation from too hardline right wings like VHP ,Bajrangdal ,Islamic radicals like NDF,Simi ,various insurgent groups from NE ,Maoists etc .
Unique capability of Indian democracy gives a unique power to our nation .Its power to absorb any type of damage
be it internally or externally
 
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