What do the Taliban want?

[gau8av]

thanks for the tag, OP

by most accounts, the quaid-e-azam was a secular politician, not an islamist.. and a Shia by sect ?

I'd advise Pakistan to look to the ideals of it's founder in this time of crisis.

 

[Khalid Newazi]

What do the Taliban want? What every man wants, POWER.

 

[Winchester]

They want to kill you and your family so that the only things left in Pakistan are them and their goats !

 

[TankMan]

That's "real" sharia. nothing more, nothing less.

may Pakistanis are overly unedited about sharia because they look at KSA and Iran as the "golden examples" of Sharia.

Oh bhai

if there was no oil in KSA or iran, they both would have been just like what you described.

only oil makes them tad bit shiny

like lipstick on a pig.



Dreams.

Kemal came by at a unique juncture of Turkish history. If he was around today, Turks will treat him very differently.

For ayub? I like the guy

but

Ahmadis were brutallly attacked by Mullah maw-doodi's goons.

Ayub could not hang that SOB mullah.

As they say, do not expect house cats to become tigers just because they are wearing army uniforms.

Educate yourself about Islam. That is not Sharia. I don't look at KSA or Iran as examples of Sharia. I look at the Quran and Hadith, and history. 'Real Sharia' died centuries ago.

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

Taliban want sharia law. Daish want Islamic state. Similarly All banned organisations want their own version.... Jamat-i-islami want their own version, Sunni tehreek want their version, Shia want their version. Most of them want through power & violence, few of them want through little Peace but , but still contains religious bigotry and all have violence in some form and intolerance.

 

[jamahir]

We need a secular reformist like Kemal Ataturk.

pakistan had the "gaddafi stadium, lahore" for 30+ years... why didn't pakistan adopt the socialism of libya...

Now take the example of Turkey. In Turkey, if a girl wants to wear a skirt or small shorts, she can wear one and no one is going to mess with her or chastise her. Same is the case in India.

india is not that liberated a place.

why do you think india sent a envoy to taliban in 1993?? cultural similarity, perhaps??

sixty years of love stories in indian cinema, yet "honor killing" happens in 2014.

But in Pakistan, all hell breaks loose if a girl is seen wearing shorts/skirts or heck even tights! People on facebook (if it's a photo) will start commenting on how she has no haya or sharam and how she is reserving a place in hell and if she's in public a couple guys are going to check her out from top to bottom then they'll whisper to each other the same thing they'd comment on facebook (will scan again when she's leaving).

remember the fellow who slapped gauhar khan for wearing short dress on the set of "india rawstar" just a few days ago??

The only way to combat this is if we can instil secularism in our people

the problem of india is securalism, which in indian understanding is allowing nonsense of every religion to spoil human rights and freedoms... what is needed is not secularism but socialism... socialism is the only system which truly respects the right of human.

 

[Levina]

what do the Taliban want?
If anyone thought that Taliban would stop killing innocents the day sharia is imposed on Pakistan then I'm sorry that's ignoratio elenchi. Its not about sharia law, these mindless galoots would not stop at just that. They want to spread terror and kill, thats their only objective.

 

[jamahir]

They want to kill you and your family so that the only things left in Pakistan are them and their goats !

taliban has interested only in human males.

if there was no oil in KSA or iran, they both would have been just like what you described.

only oil makes them tad bit shiny

like lipstick on a pig.

truth... glorious truth.

Kemal came by at a unique juncture of Turkish history. If he was around today, Turks will treat him very differently.

true again.

what do the Taliban want?
If anyone thought that Taliban would stop killing innocents the day sharia is imposed on Pakistan then I'm sorry that's ignoratio elenchi. Its not about sharia law, these mindless galoots would not stop at just that. They want to spread terror and kill, thats their only objective.

two levina phrases today??

 

[Levina]

india is not that liberated a place.

Nor 're the Indians ultra conservative.

why do you think india sent a envoy to taliban in 1993?? cultural similarity, perhaps??

what about US who fights Daesh in Iraq and on the otherside arms the moderate rebels in Syria???

sixty years of love stories in indian cinema, yet "honor killing" happens in 2014.
.

Show me another country where there're no atrocities committed against women.

I am not saying India is perfect but I still feel that what @waleed3601 had to say was not really far from reality.

he problem of india is securalism, which in indian understanding is allowing nonsense of every religion to spoil human rights and freedoms... what is needed is not secularism but socialism... socialism is the only system which truly respects the right of human.

we need secularism!!

wo levina phrases today??

Just realised that mindless galoots is an oxymoron.

 

[Not Sure]

@Norwegian, you ever heard that conversation between a TTP guy and a Pakistan Army Major? You will get a great deal of clues in that, esp when the names of LeT and LeJ come up.

 

[Norwegian]

@Norwegian, you ever heard that conversation between a TTP guy and a Pakistan Army Major? You will get a great deal of clues in that, esp when the names of LeT and LeJ come up.

No, link?

 

[TankMan]

No, link?

Pakistan Army soldier and a Tehrik e Taliban Scholar discuss Islam .wmv | Tune.pk
@Not Sure is it this one?

 

[Soumitra]

Two things are obvious. First, what the Taliban really want is Shariah law and two, they are not a wild and isolated group but one with proper financing. The question is why they make that demand. The answer is in the law. The Pakistani Constitution’s Article 227 (Islamic Provisions, Part IX) reads: “(1) All existing laws shall be brought in conformity with the Injunctions of Islam as laid down in the Holy Quran and Sunnah, in this Part referred to as the Injunctions of Islam, and no law shall be enacted which is repugnant to such Injunctions.”

This commitment is clear and unambiguous. It comes from a promise in 1949 made by Pakistan’s Constituent Assembly under Jinnah’s successor, Liaquat Ali Khan. That text, the Objectives Resolution, reads: “Whereas sovereignty over the entire Universe belongs to Almighty Allah alone, and the authority to be exercised by the people of Pakistan within the limits prescribed by Him is a sacred trust;

And whereas it is the will of the people of Pakistan to establish an order: Wherein the State shall exercise its powers and authority through the chosen representatives of the people; Wherein the principles of democracy, freedom, equality, tolerance and social justice, as enunciated by Islam, shall be fully observed; Wherein the Muslims shall be enabled to order their lives in the individual and collective spheres in accordance with the teachings and requirements of Islam as set out in the Holy Quran and Sunnah.”

So you mean to say that Taliban are just trying to fulfill a constitutional promise? Doesn't it makes them the "good" taliban as they are fighting to uphold what was said by the founding fathers of the nation?

 

[SrNair]

1. Pakistan an incompletely Islamised state

2.This commitment is clear and unambiguous. It comes from a promise in 1949 made by Pakistan’s Constituent Assembly under Jinnah’s successor, Liaquat Ali Khan. That text, the Objectives Resolution, reads: “Whereas sovereignty over the entire Universe belongs to Almighty Allah alone, and the authority to be exercised by the people of Pakistan within the limits prescribed by Him is a sacred trust



These are two fundamental problems in Pakistan .Their entire problems have roots in these two things.
They should either accept complete Sharia law like that in Arabic states or follow a modern democracy.
Actually they already have their Sharia law seed in those resolution in 1949.If they would have completely completely transformed in to an Arabic states just after 1947 things would have been better than this.

Now what is going on there is the conflict of two interests.One of them is supporting liberal democracy and other one wanted a complete Sharia system.

 

[jamahir]

we need secularism!!

i guarantee everyone from india, pakistan and the rest of humanity will be lot happier under socialism.

Just realised that mindless galoots is an oxymoron.

so retire the levina dictionary perhaps??