What can Pakistan can purchase to improve air defense?

[randomradio]

And if India stops trade with the two countries? Cuts ties with either of them? They will surely stop supplying weapons in case of a conflict instead of risking the anger of a major world power for a minor world power.

Sure. "Sanctions" covers what I said.

 

[Philip the Arab]

Sure. "Sanctions" covers what I said.

Hmm I guess, I assumed you meant international sanctions from the US and Europe but I guess that applies. Turkish and South African SAMs are not tested and not even in production yet. Go for something that has been tested and works.

 

[randomradio]

Hmm I guess, I assumed you meant international sanctions from the US and Europe but I guess that applies. Turkish and South African SAMs are not tested and not even in production yet. Go for something that has been tested and works.

RSA has Umkhonto and Turkey has HiSAR.

 

[Philip the Arab]

RSA has Umkhonto and Turkey has HiSAR.

Range is short for the HiSAR and it's infrared guided which is unreliable at long ranges when compared to radar guided missiles. Umkhonto is a good idea but has short range at only 9.3 miles.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

 

[Riz]

Nothing less then s-400

 

[Philip the Arab]

Nothing less then s-400

It's not needed, its an overpriced, overhyped, and expensive system that has yet to prove itself in real life combat when compared to the MIM-104 Patriot.

 

[Super Falcon]

TOR missiles with few pantsirs and we need atleast S 350 vityaz

 

[randomradio]

Range is short for the HiSAR and it's infrared guided which is unreliable at long ranges when compared to radar guided missiles. Umkhonto is a good idea but has short range at only 9.3 miles.

HISAR is a family of missiles.

Umkhonto is similar to Sky Dragon 50.

 

[princefaisal]

Denel Dynamics' Umkhonto EIR and Marlin missiles should also be looked. Umkhonto EIR is on the verge of ready.

In 2016, Sweden’s Saab and South Africa’s Denel Group have partnered together to offer a complete and credible air defence solution comprised of Saab’s Giraffe AMB surveillance radar and Denel’s Umkhonto surface-to-air missile (SAM) system.

So Saab’s Giraffe AMB surveillance radar with combination of Umkhonto EIR or Marlin missiles can be a good solution.

 

[SyedImran]

Salaam, What Pakistan could look into is EMP interceptor missiles. Interceptors are fast enough to get within effective range of incoming missiles to fry their systems. This of course will work for those missiles that have have electronic guidance and detonation systems on them. But, these days the major strategic threat is from these types of advanced missiles, those are the ones we need to worry about. Impact triggers are mechanical and cannot be disrupted unless one physically destroys the missiles. But these are only tactical and you can't really stop a large number of small - medium missiles.

 

[Zarvan]

In my opinion first we need to focus on HQ 9 and HQ 16 and H 7 and increase their batteries. At least 16 to 20 batteries of HQ-16 should be inducted and around 8 batteries of HQ 9. Than focus on systems which can accompany our forces in battle field like PANTSIR AND TOR

 

[ARMalik]

In my view, the biggest threat to Pakistan is a surprise missile attack specially a nuclear one. In such a surprise attack, time to respond to the threat is critical. Pakistan needs to think 'Outside the Box' otherwise following others footsteps will get Pakistan no where. So my suggestion only covers this aspect.

1-Satellites, AWACS, ground based radars, slow flying air-ships equipped with long range radars, etc all in a NETCENTRIC system controlling a variety of other systems such as below:

2- 1st line of defence: NNEMP (Non Nuclear Electromagnetic Pulse) weapons in combination with Electromagnetic Forming.

3- 2nd line of defence: NEMP (Nuclear Electromagnetic Pulse) weapons.

4- 3rd line of defence: traditional anti-defence systems.

Everything that flies needs a 'guidance system', and hence the key here is to disable or partially destroy the guidance of the incoming missiles and weapon systems.

An important issue are the Ballistic missiles flying in upper atmosphere would need a large, slow flying, satellite/AWACS Linked aircraft equipped with NEMP and NNEMP weapons. Large Air-Ships flying well inside the territory of Pakistan will do the job. Such Air-ships can launch one or multiple NEMP missiles towards the Ballistic missiles to cover a huge area and literally wipe out dozens of missiles.

 

[Philip the Arab]

Salaam, What Pakistan could look into is EMP interceptor missiles. Interceptors are fast enough to get within effective range of incoming missiles to fry their systems. This of course will work for those missiles that have have electronic guidance and detonation systems on them. But, these days the major strategic threat is from these types of advanced missiles, those are the ones we need to worry about. Impact triggers are mechanical and cannot be disrupted unless one physically destroys the missiles. But these are only tactical and you can't really stop a large number of small - medium missiles.

The warhead may still be intact but if that missile is hit by even a FIM-92 Stinger or similar missiles the wings should be come fragmented and have a hard time controlling themselves thus leading to them inaccurately hitting the ground.

What about inertial navigation missiles not using electronics? To my knowledge in WW2 the Germans had cruise missiles that just used an accelerometer, gyroscope, and whatever else goes into the inertial navigation system which means an EMP would not fry it to my knowledge.

 

[GriffinsRule]

We can erect a really high fence?

But I actually think the best way to improve our air defense is to build redundancy in our command, control, and communication (C3) setup. We have plenty of early warning assets but if the command nodes are taken out, the individual systems by themselves will not be able to provide the kind of integrated picture our military would need of different threats coming our way.

In essence we need more C3 locations that can still operate even if some are taken out. With better information of what is coming, from where, when and in what numbers would enable us to place our assets, even if technologically inferior, to counter and foil the enemy plans.