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What are the 'Must Read' books about Pakistan?

ooh Liverpool!:o:.. my team is Atlas fc hahaha I'm sure you never heard of but we're nice ...

No unfortunately I don't know about Atlas F.C ! :(

Is it Chicharito's Former Club ? :unsure:

Ohhh yea Cricket.... once I tried to watch a match, I thought it was similar to baseball, but seriously, I couldnt understand a single thing about cricket...

Baseball is a wannabe sport which is a cross between Cricket & Tennis ! :bunny:

yes... I think latinos is a way to say we all were once spanish colonies... I'm not sure...I should have paid more attention to highschool and university lectures,

You were all Spanish colonies ! :o:

I thought Brazil was ruled by the Portuguese ! :undecided:

So did Simon Bolivar play a role in the foundation of Mexico too as he did in that of a few other South American countries ! :what:

I once went to Peru and Bolivia, they also speak Quechwa and spanish, they kept their indigenous language unlike us... and even some of them thought we mexicans spoke english as first language... :disagree: some countries from South America still like us but some other see us like we want to be more North Americans than Latinos which is false...only because of our inept government cut relations with Latin countries :angry::(

Well I suppose Mexico does enjoy a trans-continental location in the sense that it exists on the frontiers of both South & North America - Its only natural for you guys to be different to both South America & North America while sharing some similarities with either ! :)
 
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No unfortunately I don't know about Atlas F.C ! :(

Is it Chicharito's Former Club ? :unsure:

nooo... Chicharito comes from Chivas Guadalajara... both teams are from Guadalajara (my city) but we're archi rivals haha...

Baseball is a wannabe sport which is a cross between Cricket & Tennis ! :bunny:
hahahaha I never saw it like that... but somehow it's way easier to follow

You were all Spanish colonies ! :o:

I thought Brazil was ruled by the Portuguese ! :undecided:

So did Simon Bolivar play a role in the foundation of Mexico too as he did in that of a few other South American countries ! :what:

haha this is embarrassing... yess!!!! they were ruled by the Portuguese i keep forgetting... also small countries by Holland, Spain took most of the territories since Portugal and the others had the East Companies...

ahmm Simon Bolivar imagined a super Confederation... something like European Union but Latin American Union... his ideas are still very strong felt and taught in South America but not in Mexico ...We barely hear his name in history classes, or even Che Guevara is not so famous here ( i mean ideals) we are only taught about Mexicans... :undecided: I didn't realize that until now

Well I suppose Mexico does enjoy a trans-continental location in the sense that it exists on the frontiers of both South & North America - Its only natural for you guys to be different to both South America & North America while sharing some similarities with either ! :)

North Americans see us as South Americans.. and South American see us as North Americans :woot:
but we only see ourselves as Latinos.. (whether latinos want it or not haha) ... the problem is that we only look up to the US for everything, trade, jobs, migration, "opportunities" etc...
regarding ilegal migration haha I have to say that we actually don't see is as completely ilegal since we consider it to be only "Karma" ...given the fact that those territories were ours in the first place... that's why some even encourage to take it back this way o_O
 
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ooh.. thanks for suggesting....i never saw this book...
is is written by an Afghan or Pakistani?

By a Pakistani. Retd. Brigadier Mohd.Yousaf

This book reveals the political, financial and military secrets of how the USA and Pakistan controlled the largest guerilla war of this century. It is the story of how the then Soviet Union was defeated militarily inside Afghanistan, of how the CIA and Saudi Arabia acted as international paymasters for enormous annual arms buying operations, of how the Mujahideen guerrillas were trained, supplied, and controlled by Pakistan army staff working from the Afghan Bureau of the Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) - Pakistan's equivalent of the CIA and Defence Intelligence Agency rolled into one.

Muhammad Yousaf was for four years (1983 to 1987) the head of the Afghan Bureau and as such the nearest the Mujahideen came to having a commander-in-chief. Under the Director of ISI, who devised the overall strategy of the war, Yousaf controlled the flow of thousands of tons of arms (bought by the CIA mainly from the USA, UK, China and Egypt) across Pakistan. He arranged and supervised the training of the Mujahideen in secret camps in Pakistan, he covertly sent Pakistani Army teams inside Afghanistan to assist the guerrillas in their campaign of ambushes, assassinations, raids, and rocket attacks.

He devised the day to day tactics of a thousand cuts that eventually forced the Soviets to recognize they could not win militarily. He coordinated the ultra secret incursions of Mujahideen deep inside the USSR. That these attacks took place has never before been admitted, least of all exactly how they were planned and carried out. Many in authority in both the USA and Pakistan would still prefer that these sensitive issues were not made public.

The USA is still uneasy about its backing the Mujahideen on the battlefield to the moment when victory was in sight and then, according to Yousaf, abruptly cutting back so that Kabul did not fall when the Soviets withdrew. Similarly, the revelation that the US and Pakistan authorities deliberately blocked any worthwhile investigation of the murder of President Zia and the US ambassador in the plane crash in August 1988, will not be welcomed.
 
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By a Pakistani. Retd. Brigadier Mohd.Yousaf

This book reveals the political, financial and military secrets of how the USA and Pakistan controlled the largest guerilla war of this century. It is the story of how the then Soviet Union was defeated militarily inside Afghanistan, of how the CIA and Saudi Arabia acted as international paymasters for enormous annual arms buying operations, of how the Mujahideen guerrillas were trained, supplied, and controlled by Pakistan army staff working from the Afghan Bureau of the Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) - Pakistan's equivalent of the CIA and Defence Intelligence Agency rolled into one.

Muhammad Yousaf was for four years (1983 to 1987) the head of the Afghan Bureau and as such the nearest the Mujahideen came to having a commander-in-chief. Under the Director of ISI, who devised the overall strategy of the war, Yousaf controlled the flow of thousands of tons of arms (bought by the CIA mainly from the USA, UK, China and Egypt) across Pakistan. He arranged and supervised the training of the Mujahideen in secret camps in Pakistan, he covertly sent Pakistani Army teams inside Afghanistan to assist the guerrillas in their campaign of ambushes, assassinations, raids, and rocket attacks.

He devised the day to day tactics of a thousand cuts that eventually forced the Soviets to recognize they could not win militarily. He coordinated the ultra secret incursions of Mujahideen deep inside the USSR. That these attacks took place has never before been admitted, least of all exactly how they were planned and carried out. Many in authority in both the USA and Pakistan would still prefer that these sensitive issues were not made public.

The USA is still uneasy about its backing the Mujahideen on the battlefield to the moment when victory was in sight and then, according to Yousaf, abruptly cutting back so that Kabul did not fall when the Soviets withdrew. Similarly, the revelation that the US and Pakistan authorities deliberately blocked any worthwhile investigation of the murder of President Zia and the US ambassador in the plane crash in August 1988, will not be welcomed.


ooooh... That's interesting ... thanks a lot!! will look into it...! thanks for sharing :)
 
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I read half of "I am mala". I liked it n her rigor.....
 
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I read half of "I am mala". I liked it n her rigor.....


really? you liked it? i havent read it

but my mom liked it and she doesn't know anything about Pakistan... so I figured it was kind of all propaganda
 
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@Armstrong , you read books?
u thought you were a completely useless person, who was somewhat gay, and crazy about turks in a very awkward way.

the only books i have read is Ghost Wars and Charlie Wilson's war :p i only read books that i get for free LOL
the only book i am currently interested in is "Verdict on India" and "From Kutch to Tashkent"

care to shed some light on these books Armstrong?
 
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really? you liked it? i havent read it

but my mom liked it and she doesn't know anything about Pakistan... so I figured it was kind of all propaganda

Yes i liked that book beyond any doubt...... I haven't not read much about Pakistan though..... Pdf enlightened me a lot about Pakistan.....
I bow down to her rigor..... For me She deserves Nobel prize without any doubt.....
 
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