What about jf-17 for bangladesh airforce?

[eastwatch]

I had the same comments as Sir Amigo.
It is not only a economical and defence trade, but also will enrich the love between the two countries, after the bitter 71.
I suggest giving a bit discount around 2-5% in total as these are our own men

Bangladesh has not received back the assets that it has claimed from Pakistan after the separation. Could it be that BD will ask for quite a few units of JF-17 instead?

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Bangladesh has not received back the assets that it has claimed from Pakistan after the separation. Could it be that BD will ask for quite a few units of JF-17 instead?

What is that?

I think Pakistan has to supply its self first. I heard it has only like 16(?).

And I dont understand who is doing the saleing of JF-17 to Bangladesh if that happens.. China or Pakistan? Im confused.

 

[eastwatch]

What is that?

I think Pakistan has to supply its self first. I heard it has only like 16(?).

And I dont understand who is doing the saleing of JF-17 to Bangladesh if that happens.. China or Pakistan? Im confused.

Yes, the rate of production of JF-17 is probably only 15 per year and PAF will need all these to fill in its own quota of 250 units. However, things do not always follow pure mathematics. When there are foreign buyers, the production volume can be increased. Now, the production is limited only because the GoP has a budget constraints.

I am not sure, but common sense says that PAAF may wait for a few years if BAF decides to induct these planes. China certainly understands the vulnerability of BD and its budget constraints. It can also be that BD does not buy directly from Pakistan, but buys fromChina. China finances the purchase and BD pays in installments to China.

 

[fatman17]

FC-1 wld be a 'good fit' for BDAF - at US15-17m a unit it is affordable - however BD needs to pay cash for them. Russia is offering a 'loan' for BDAF to buy more MiG-29s so political considerations will come into play. if China offers 'soft loans' then BDAF can buy up to 2-3 squadrons.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

FC-1 wld be a 'good fit' for BDAF - at US15-17m a unit it is affordable - however BD needs to pay cash for them. Russia is offering a 'loan' for BDAF to buy more MiG-29s so political considerations will come into play. if China offers 'soft loans' then BDAF can buy up to 2-3 squadrons.

It is a good fit, I cant think of any other aircraft, maybe Mirage is also good for BD.

 

[fatman17]

It is a good fit, I cant think of any other aircraft, maybe Mirage is also good for BD.

mirage 2000 is not in production anymore - mirage IIi-V are available but wld require expensive overhauls!

 

[Water Car Engineer]

mirage 2000 is not in production anymore - mirage IIi-V are available but wld require expensive overhauls!

I didnt know that. You think F-16s are in its price range or what? Some of the models are like the same price as JF-17s right?

 

[Mani2020]

Could you please describe what kind of situation Pakistan or PAF is, and is the situation in BD is not same as that in Pakistan?

He was actually talking about difference in situations of PAF and PLAAF .Actually PAF has a lot of budget problems so we can't afford large chunk of highly complexed modern fighters with high maintanance cost on the other hand we also have to keep a reasonable parity with our enemy specially in numbers so jf-17 is a cheap sophisticated fighter fitting PAF needs as well as coming up in large numbers .Above all its PAF's first step towards indignization which will make sure that PAF will not have to suffer from embargo's like it did in late 90's and prior to that also

On the other hand PLAAF has a huge budget so they can afford to induct modern high cost fighters in large numbers whether it be single engine or twin also they are currently running several indigenous programs while they can also import aircrafts from Russia (only if they want to)


Now when you compare both BAF and PAF then there is again varying situation .Both have different budgets .BAF has a very small budget when compared to PAF so jf-17 will best suit them also it is easy to maintain when compared to j-10 .Plus another thing is that india is direct threat to Pakistan while in case of bangladesh india might be a threat but not a direct threat.even if india is a direct threat with the current number of aircrafts in BAF inventory and the technology it possess when compared to india whether it will be j-10 it will not make much difference because utmost BAF can induct 50 j-10's not more than that so why not instead of going with 50 j-10's go with 100 jf-17's atleast BAF have something to work with as far as numbers are concerned

On the other hand farhan may be unaware of the fact that PLAAF is inducting FC-1(jf-17) thats why he made that statement

 

[sohailbarki]

In my opinion JF 17 Block II will be a totally new chapter and may be BD will consider that.....

 

[Mani2020]

FC-1 wld be a 'good fit' for BDAF - at US15-17m a unit it is affordable - however BD needs to pay cash for them. Russia is offering a 'loan' for BDAF to buy more MiG-29s so political considerations will come into play. if China offers 'soft loans' then BDAF can buy up to 2-3 squadrons.

China will allow soft loans specially with the current shape of their economy.also bangladesh is an old buyer of Chinese products so there will not be a problem with that

 

[Mani2020]

What is that?

I think Pakistan has to supply its self first. I heard it has only like 16(?).

And I dont understand who is doing the saleing of JF-17 to Bangladesh if that happens.. China or Pakistan? Im confused.

Currently there are 30 jf-17's in PAF inventory 22 + 8 which are undergoing testing .

For the sales of jf-17 both parties i.e China and Pakistan have to permit the sales and profit will be distributed b/w both in 50-50 ratio

 

[Mani2020]

Yes, the rate of production of JF-17 is probably only 15 per year and PAF will need all these to fill in its own quota of 250 units. However, things do not always follow pure mathematics. When there are foreign buyers, the production volume can be increased. Now, the production is limited only because the GoP has a budget constraints.

I am not sure, but common sense says that PAAF may wait for a few years if BAF decides to induct these planes. China certainly understands the vulnerability of BD and its budget constraints. It can also be that BD does not buy directly from Pakistan, but buys fromChina. China finances the purchase and BD pays in installments to China.

No the rate of production is 25 planes per year,recently production lines have been increased in PAC .

While there are also current production facilities running in Chengdu which may be utilized for export orders

 

[Mani2020]

I didnt know that. You think F-16s are in its price range or what? Some of the models are like the same price as JF-17s right?

F-16 costs too much when compared to jf-17 .the current price of f-16 is somewhere around 50 million dollars. while that of jf-17 is 15-20 million dollars

 

[punit]

How about old F16. with MLU gradation it will be a potent plane.

 

[chisty_chowdhury]

JF-17 Block 2 with CFT's v.2.0