'Wear a headscarf or we will kill you': 'London Taliban'

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Well- you can put any thing under national security and get away with it- How come wearing Hijab is a matter of national security you tell me- because its above me-

Moving from country to country gona solve the problem?- Is that what you think?-

Can you imagine not so long ago- our ancestors leaving the subcontinent because our struggle was national security threat to British Empire-

Wearing a hijab is above me as well. However every citizen has the right to take the matter up with the govt.

And by moving from country to country, I meant if challenging the govt. doesn't solve anything.. and if the person feels uncomfortable or whatever the reason may be.. then it may be time to look for some place that supports their beliefs, idea etc.

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No i meant Kinda garden- its a place here-



Well- Thats should Shut all of us up then- You stop bothering what happens in Pakistan and vice versa- Lets Kill the Forum-

Fair enough

 

[JonAsad]

u can talk about France law,i can't talk about the things happening in britain???
hypocrisy

Whats the point of all this?- I feel like i am waisting my time with a kid on useless tit for tat conversations-

On topic...
Muslims in london,in their own soil,force non-muslims to follow ur sharia law, and when they hit u back,u start crying --islamophobia

Is that happening in a scale you are projecting it?- Exaggerating Phobia???-

 

[tallboy123]

TO avoid these type of fanatics,France banned burqa earlier....
smart french....

 

[Prometheus]

That seems to be christianophobia...............

 

[Aslan]

Yea, I find it disturbing that Indians go to Arab lands for money. But then it maybe economic necessities rather than personal beliefs.

You nailed it it is economic necessity, but my point is then why turn around and criticize them for what they are. Same goes for these people trying to push them selves down every Britishers throat, their land their rules, live with them. If one want to change something and that is if the law allows you to change it the way the law allows you to. And also if the burning of the Holy book is considered freedom then this is the same. The point is, there are bigots and @$$holes every where, in every religion. The only reason we get to see these ones more then the others is because this sells.

 

[Aslan]

As expected barring one or two who accept the reality the rest are just denying giving a plethora of excuses ranging from the news is not credible, I am not able to see the pictures, this is freedom of speech (really ??) , this is a reaction to Western extremists, Islamophobia, Get our Bhartis, yada yada yada.

They just cant accept that there are indeed nut jobs in London and they need to be spanked severely.

Well you need to take off your I hate you glasses and go through the thread again. Or you only tend to believe in the people who agree with you point blank.

 

[Aslan]

People this thread is about England and her problems. Get over your obsession about every thing else and talk about it, no need to drag every other country into the debate.

 

[below_freezing]

They are as right in criticising the Britain as the Uighurs are in criticising that Islam in Xinjiang is not allowed to be practised except under State sponsored Islamic clerics or their children not being allowed in the mosque till 18 or there being no Islamic University allowed!

If people hate the West, then why live there?

Why people are not allowed to hate? Ask Ai Wei Wei and Liu Xiaobo or those massacred in Tienanmen Square or Falun Gong!

You have to drag China into everything don't you? There is no cure for hatred. Have a good day and please beware of your health, hatred takes its toll on the liver.

 

[Aslan]

What is the British gov doing to control these fanatics in their own country.

 

[Jackdaws]

You nailed it it is economic necessity, but my point is then why turn around and criticize them for what they are. Same goes for these people trying to push them selves down every Britishers throat, their land their rules, live with them. If one want to change something and that is if the law allows you to change it the way the law allows you to. And also if the burning of the Holy book is considered freedom then this is the same. The point is, there are bigots and @$$holes every where, in every religion. The only reason we get to see these ones more then the others is because this sells.

Of course, the British Muslims are well within their rights to demand Sharia law according to British social norms of freedom of speech and expression - am unsure about the law since Britain is actually a theocratic monarchy - Church of England and Queen. Either way, the acts of these radical Muslim fuel mistrust of Islam and strengthen the likes of the BNP.

 

[JonAsad]

A full face cover does not allow identification and identification is very important in the world because of rampant terrorism. A headscarf allows identification. That is why. That explains the first part.

This issue of terrorism erupted after sept 2001- tell me the issue of Hijab did it came after that?- It was there before- You just got a fresh excuse to justify it-

Indeed, one must not believe a non Muslim, but this non Moslem's relations who are Muslims had to wait 10 years in Saudi Arabia to get citizenship and they are very very pious Muslims!

How much time it takes for a non white immigrant to obtain nationality of UK?- 10 years? Yes- What are the conditions? You know it well- So whats the point?-

Do let me know, can a person (lady) wear a bikini or a mini skirt - the reverse of covering everything like a full face burkha in Saudi Arabia?

What women is allowed to wear or not- Is that a standard of measuring some thing?- Like for instance Development? It felt like women are the measuring tool for a society's progress-

If this is applicable to foreigners in Saudi Arabia, then what is wrong if the West imposes their own form of morality?

If you compete- then you loose every right to criticize the other for doing the same- and it seems like you are justifying the competition- So tell me Where's the Morality in here?-

Want to know more about becoming a citizen of Saudi Arabia?

I Do not know or understand what this citizen criteria has to do with- You were interested in becoming a Saudi and had to wait 10 years?

Therefore, please give us a break from fantasies and disinformation aimed to fool the people!

Fantasies and disinformation is indeed aimed at the Fools- and the result of that shows some people here do not even know that Non- Muslims exist in Saudi Arabia-

 

[Aslan]

Of course, the British Muslims are well within their rights to demand Sharia law according to British social norms of freedom of speech and expression - am unsure about the law since Britain is actually a theocratic monarchy - Church of England and Queen. Either way, the acts of these radical Muslim fuel mistrust of Islam and strengthen the likes of the BNP.

It does, and trust me when I said if one can change the law with in the rights awarded to them then they should do that, all i was trying to say was that if the British law allows for something to happen then it should be done in a peaceful manner. But the problem is that these cannibalistic creatures get all the attention, and which is done on purpose so that some extra money can be made and some agendas can be achieved. And then the ones who suffer because of them are the ones who are trying too hard to mend fences and make something better for themselves and others.

 

[tallboy123]

guys, can anyone tell me,can a western women wear bikini on the beach of saudi arabia or can she wear skirts?????

 

[Aslan]

guys, can anyone tell me,can a western women wear bikini on the beach of saudi arabia or can she wear skirts?????

And you are still stuck with the Saudis, no they cant its a rule of their country. You have a problem with it dont go there. Now stop trolling and get back to the topic.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

You want to limit some thing- why not limit all putting them on the same scale- There should be limit for hijab- but any one can burn holy books- because that comes under Freedom of Exression- Thats Hypocrisy-

Wallahi- I will not be surprised a bit- if later i hear from you- are non-muslims allowed in Saudia?-

Come to Saudi City in Al Khalidiah District in Jeddah-
Or Go to King Abdullah University Science and Technology in Thuwal City- See for your self- If you cant believe what i am implying- do a little google and see for your self what Fatwas have been passed for these places- Try also to find Why-

First of all, either you don't understand Engish or you have selected amnesia or you are in competition with the india rubber man at the circus, though you are doing the same with ideas.

If you had read my posts and more importantly, understood them, you would realise that I have found the Pastor as loony and dangerous, as also having found his act idiotic. Therefore, for you to ascribe imaginative and false illusions to me is despicable and downright low.

I would like to emphasise that I speak in my personal capacity and not as a spokesman for any group and also am not ready to be a victim of your hallucinatory outburst, powered by a serious insecurity and electrical confusion in your brain.

Who has said the foreigners are not allowed in Saudi Arabia? Did I? If they were not allowed who would work on the oil wells? Or have doctors and nurses? Or the vast labour force? The lazy Bedouin Sheik and his oppressed people?

The foreigners have to obey the strict Islamic Wahhabi code and that is what I have stated. And that one just cannot get a Saudi citizenship as if it were commonplace as it is in the West,

If a foreigner is subjected to strict Islam and that is OK with the Muslims around the world, then it is also be OK what the West imposes as their rules.

Take it or leave it.

If you don't like it, then leave.

Its a Kingdom- Why are you expecting them to follow rules of democracy there?-

Dont tell me there isn't any rule in place in Briton to prevent any one from taking over the Kingdom -

So, it means having a Monarchy is beyond being human and fair?

There is no rule in Britain that prevents anyone taking over the Kingdom. It is only that people do not have the gonads to try it!! They can only whine and howl with unmitigated impotence.

Lol-I am not a Saudi so drop this adulation- it works only on dumb Saudis which may reward you in return -

Not adulation of anyone.

You asked where the advisory brigade was, so I just informed the Wahabi Monarch!

I understand the frustration some of the Pakistanis have against the Saudis, not justifiable completely but ok. Will give them the benefit of the the doubt. But what about the Indians, you guys love the Sheiks and their money, and then this. Hypocrites shall I say.

Economic benefits, I presume.

The same reason why Pakistanis and Indians have flocked the British shores and now some Muslim are wailing that they are being stifled as they are not being allowed to spread their culture and religion.

They however meekly accept all the indignities heaped by the tinpot Sheiks of Saudi Arabia and other Kingdoms that came into being because of the British and French chicanery in the first place!

Are you aware of the miserable conditions of the workers in the Middle East and the indignities heaped on them?

It is the Ottoman Turks who knew how to keep the Arabs in place by kicking them around and these Arabs (the nomadic Bedous) are now being totally grateful to the Colonial Masters by being ruthless to their own, just to ensure that they can lavish in riches through the sweat and toil of their people!