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[CENTCOM]

From Pakistan’s leadership to that of the U.S., from analysts to reporters, have all been acknowledging that the signs for improvement in the relationship between Pakistan and the United States has been fairly vivid. In a meeting between Secretary of State John Kerry and Pakistan’s interior Minister Nisar Ali Khan, Kerry pointed out, “So we have a lot of challenges. A lot has happened in the last year that has emboldened some of the extremists. It’s something that Pakistan is deeply concerned about. We’ve had long conversations about it. I look forward to continuing the cooperative effort on the economy as well as the cooperative effort in counterterrorism and democracy building,”

Along the same lines, Secretary of state John Kerry has highlighted the appreciative perspective of the United States in regards to the steps taken by Afghanistan and Pakistan to improve their bilateral relations. All across the board, people and institutions realize that in order to curb the expansion of instability and terrorism in the region, we all have to work together, work through our differences, and develop a better foundation of trust.

“In the transition taking place in Afghanistan, we are witnessing an unprecedented level of effort to try to produce cooperation. And thus far, there are some signs of real results with respect to that,” a statement made by Secretary John Kerry in a joint media appearance with visiting Pakistan’s Interior Minister Nisar Ali Khan.

How do you see these relationships shaping in the near future? What steps, taken by each nation, would help maintain and enhance the current level of partnership that we share?

Haroon Ahmad
DET – U.S. Central Command
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[Donatello]

ISI chief is in USA. So obviously things are on the right track we can presume. But US Congress is still hostile towards Pakistan.

 

[Kompromat]

From Pakistan’s leadership to that of the U.S., from analysts to reporters, have all been acknowledging that the signs for improvement in the relationship between Pakistan and the United States has been fairly vivid. In a meeting between Secretary of State John Kerry and Pakistan’s interior Minister Nisar Ali Khan, Kerry pointed out, “So we have a lot of challenges. A lot has happened in the last year that has emboldened some of the extremists. It’s something that Pakistan is deeply concerned about. We’ve had long conversations about it. I look forward to continuing the cooperative effort on the economy as well as the cooperative effort in counterterrorism and democracy building,”

Along the same lines, Secretary of state John Kerry has highlighted the appreciative perspective of the United States in regards to the steps taken by Afghanistan and Pakistan to improve their bilateral relations. All across the board, people and institutions realize that in order to curb the expansion of instability and terrorism in the region, we all have to work together, work through our differences, and develop a better foundation of trust.

“In the transition taking place in Afghanistan, we are witnessing an unprecedented level of effort to try to produce cooperation. And thus far, there are some signs of real results with respect to that,” a statement made by Secretary John Kerry in a joint media appearance with visiting Pakistan’s Interior Minister Nisar Ali Khan.

How do you see these relationships shaping in the near future? What steps, taken by each nation, would help maintain and enhance the current level of partnership that we share?

Haroon Ahmad
DET – U.S. Central Command
www.facebook.com/centcomurdu

• Afghanistan must stop Indian sponsored terrorism in Pakistan in both FATA and Balochistan
• Afghanistan must curb narco production
  

In return we will do what we are supposed to. You can already see Dr Ghani has achieved a lot with Pakistan, much more than ''Krazai'' could in a decade. Pakistan has strong relationships with China, Turkey and Middle East, Afghanistan can have a similar relationship if it starts to act like a state.

 

[Basel]

From Pakistan’s leadership to that of the U.S., from analysts to reporters, have all been acknowledging that the signs for improvement in the relationship between Pakistan and the United States has been fairly vivid. In a meeting between Secretary of State John Kerry and Pakistan’s interior Minister Nisar Ali Khan, Kerry pointed out, “So we have a lot of challenges. A lot has happened in the last year that has emboldened some of the extremists. It’s something that Pakistan is deeply concerned about. We’ve had long conversations about it. I look forward to continuing the cooperative effort on the economy as well as the cooperative effort in counterterrorism and democracy building,”

Along the same lines, Secretary of state John Kerry has highlighted the appreciative perspective of the United States in regards to the steps taken by Afghanistan and Pakistan to improve their bilateral relations. All across the board, people and institutions realize that in order to curb the expansion of instability and terrorism in the region, we all have to work together, work through our differences, and develop a better foundation of trust.

“In the transition taking place in Afghanistan, we are witnessing an unprecedented level of effort to try to produce cooperation. And thus far, there are some signs of real results with respect to that,” a statement made by Secretary John Kerry in a joint media appearance with visiting Pakistan’s Interior Minister Nisar Ali Khan.

How do you see these relationships shaping in the near future? What steps, taken by each nation, would help maintain and enhance the current le, vel of partnership that we share?

Haroon Ahmad
DET – U.S. Central Command
www.facebook.com/centcomurdu

Since Independence US only maintained tactical relationship with Pakistan not strategic one, even during Cold War when Pakistan was in need US was putting sanctions while USSR was supporting India. US will never consider Pakistan its strategic partner in real context, they are just giving lollipops to get their job done.

Pakistan is the only non NATO ally who is ally only for Name but did not get the real benefits of it, during WOT US was reluctant to sale AH-64 longbows only because India was supposed to be future buyer (which they did) even they did not offer AC-130s or A-10s for COIN ops if they were unable to provide attack helos, the list can go on and on.

 

[That Guy]

Going back to status quo ante bellum. The US will say whatever it wants to say to hasten it's abandonment of the region, as it has done in the past. There is no evidence to suggest that the US will do anything different than to what it did in the past, that is not to say that the US is doing the wrong thing, they're doing what is in their interest, simple as that. The recent offer of slowing down the pace of withdrawal of foreign forces is nothing more than honey'd words, it is nothing more than a political gesture.

Ghani isn't a fool, he sees what is happening, he knows that nations that don't share a common border with Afghanistan don't particularly care what happens, which is why he's moving away from India, and trying to find a way to decrease reliance on foreign forces. His rapprochement towards Pakistan is a clear indication that he knows the reality on the ground is different than what western nations, and India have to say. His gestures have already produced results, as the Afghan taliban are soon going to start direct talks with his government, and anti-terror cooperation has increased dramatically on both sides of the border.

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

Pakistan is the only non NATO ally who is ally only for Name but did not get the real benefits of it, during WOT US was reluctant to sale AH-64 longbows only because India was supposed to be future buyer (which they did) even they did not offer AC-130s or A-10s for COIN ops if they were unable to provide attack helos, the list can go on and on.

• A-10s were never offered for export to any nation, but Pakistan, by Ronald Reagan, during the Soviet Occupation of Afghanistan.

• AC-130s are considered national assets for the American Spec Ops Community. All it is is a modified C-130, if i'm not mistaken China made a copy of it.

Want to buy the latest and state of the art weaponry?

Money Money Money, Show us the Money.

Going back to status quo ante bellum. The US will say whatever it wants to say to hasten it's abandonment of the region, as it has done in the past. There is no evidence to suggest that the US will do anything different than to what it did in the past, that is not to say that the US is doing the wrong thing, they're doing what is in their interest, simple as that. The recent offer of slowing down the pace of withdrawal of foreign forces is nothing more than honey'd words, it is nothing more than a political gesture.

And what do you want the US to do vis a vis Pakistan?

As far as Afghanistan is concerned, the US will continue to conduct Spec Op missions there and continue to train the Afghans military.

If it's one thing the US is good at it's maintaining the Status Quo.

 

[That Guy]

And what do you want the US to do vis a vis Pakistan?

As far as Afghanistan is concerned, the US will continue to conduct Spec Op missions there and continue to train the Afghans military.

If it's one thing the US is good at it's maintaining the Status Quo.

Well, for one thing, how about actually cooperating on the border? The US has not once cooperated along the border with Pakistan. When ZeA started, Pakistan requested that the US take position on the Afghan side of the border, to target those terrorists that were trying to escape, the US promised it would, but it never actually occurred. Or how about the US actually take into account Pakistani interests. This is the biggest problem, every major policy maker in the US assumes that US interests are the world's interests, they neglect other allied nation's interests in pursuit of their own. The US still does not appreciate the fact that Pakistan has started a civil war on it's own soil, all because the US requested it do so, if it was any other nation, they would have called the US insane. Pakistan is stuck in this war that the US started, and the US is abandoning the region, leaving Pakistan to, once again, clean up the mess.

What else can the US do? How about realizing the fact that India will never replace Pakistan. Indian interests are not the similar to US interests, and in fact, many of them are completely opposite. Tell India to stop supplying weapons to Baluchi terrorists, most of which ends up in the hands of AQ and TTP in the end, anyway.

I could go on, but I think I've made my point.

As for those SpecOps missions and raids that will be conducted, even those will be limited and eventually end by the time all US forces leave Afghanistan.

Finally, forget about "aid" to Pakistan, repay what the US owes Pakistan for using it's facilities, and compensate Pakistan for starting a war at the behest of the US; stop trying to replace Pakistan with India, it will never happen.

 

[Basel]

• A-10s were never offered for export to any nation, but Pakistan, by Ronald Reagan, during the Soviet Occupation of Afghanistan.

• AC-130s are considered national assets for the American Spec Ops Community. All it is is a modified C-130, if i'm not mistaken China made a copy of it.

Want to buy the latest and state of the art weaponry?

Money Money Money, Show us the Money.

A-10s were deactivated and could have been sold through EDA to Pakistan same goes for AC-130s as US did not have to sale latest models like C-130Js for that, E or H model could have been upgraded to AC-130 standard for COIN ops and sold to Pakistan as used ones were provided previously.

If you think Pakistan don't have money then please do remember we have enough natural resources to pay for whatever we want, there is a reason countries like China, Turkey, UK & Russia are coming to Pakistan with large investments even when Pakistan is fighting war on terror and paying heavy price.

Don't worry China have always fulfilled Pakistan's requirements in their available resources and technology there is a reason that they are more trusted in masses in Pakistan then US of A.

 

[Basel]

US has always been your ally offered you weapons,Aid and supported your stance on Kashmir....you were the first in south Asia to have Maritime reconnaissance Aircraft ,AA missiles etc etc .....things went wrong when you start double crossing your benefactor.

First get your facts right Pakistan did not get its long range MPA from US, it was French Atlantic MPA which PN inducted.

Breguet Atlantic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

US only see Pakistan as tactical ally, when they need it they use after that dispose (put sanctions).

Pakistan can't overhaul or re-build its old F-16s while China shared its advance tech with Pakistan. Pakistan can overhaul and re-build all major Chinese systems they have in all 03 services its not the case in US stuff and they are always sanctioned when needed most.

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

If you think Pakistan don't have money then please do remember we have enough natural resources to pay for whatever we want, there is a reason countries like China, Turkey, UK & Russia are coming to Pakistan with large investments even when Pakistan is fighting war on terror and paying heavy price.

Don't worry China have always fulfilled Pakistan's requirements in their available resources and technology there is a reason that they are more trusted in masses in Pakistan then US of A.

You mean the undervalued gold mines in Baluchistan sold to the Australians?
Or the oil pumped but apparently no one knows where the payments went?

Want me to continue?

China wants $. They want their workers working, and will sell to everyone. Any yet there is more economic/ cultural trade between US & Pakistan.

But realize this, Pakistan is China's counter to India.

US only see Pakistan as tactical ally, when they need it they use after that dispose (put sanctions).

*Slow Clap*

 

[Basel]

You mean the undervalued gold mines in Baluchistan sold to the Australians?
Or the oil pumped but apparently no one knows where the payments went?

Want me to continue?

China wants $. They want their workers working, and will sell to everyone. Any yet there is more economic/ cultural trade between US & Pakistan.

But realize this, Pakistan is China's counter to India.



*Slow Clap*

You are talking about Reko Diq area but Pakistan also have gold in Chiniot and Saindak areas with silver, Copper & good quality Iron ore, Shale Oil is also available, we are rich in resources only badly managed by corrupt and greedy people elite class.

Saindak Copper Gold Project - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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http://www.sdpi.org/publications/files/Shale_Gas_Viability_and_Prospects_for_Pakistan.pdf
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Reko Diq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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