Water car: Engineer sues doctor for ‘trying to undermine’ his invention

[Last Hope]

Pray tell us ignorant commonfolk of this great knowledge of siaaanse that you speak of, so that we may be properly in awe of your greatness!

Break the water molecule, extract the Hydrogen using electrolysis. Store the hydrogen as fuel.
This method would require a lot of hydrogen and initial start-up energy as said. And please don't tell me you have no idea of the hydrogen powered cars.

 

[VCheng]

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So there are two possibilities 1) he is fraud 2) Car is actually running on water...................

There is only ONE possibility: Agha Waqar is a complete and utter FRAUD.

Break the water molecule, extract the Hydrogen using electrolysis. Store the hydrogen as fuel.
This method would require a lot of hydrogen and initial start-up energy as said. And please don't tell me you have no idea of the hydrogen powered cars.

For hydrogen powered cars, it is much more efficient and cost effective to use stock materials other than water, for example methane. Using water to power a hydrogen based vehicle by electrolysis is utter stupidity.

 

[RKhan]

Can we lock this thread till a third party actually tests and verifies the claims?

 

[Hyde]

So far every credible scientist has refuted this news. We will have to see what happens when anybody else will sit on the driver seat and ride this car? or may be couple of hundreds of miles for test drive and see if it can still drive and does not need to recharge the batteries from electricity etc

 

[VCheng]

Can we lock this thread till a third party actually tests and verifies the claims?

Abhi koi kasar reh gai hey?

This is a complete farce! This thread should have been moved to the "Stupid and Funny" section from Day One!

 

[RazPaK]

Since he is fighting for this, i believe it is premature to call him a fraud. He has made a claim, andpeople are jumping on him for trying to challenge a man made scientific law. If his claim is false then obviously we will all know. Let him prove himself before ridicule. That is all that i request.

 

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Let us discuss & debate this technical/engg. issue a little analytically or even in simple terms for general understanding ...

here, i am posting a few questions infront of the smart people community ( on/of this forum ) calling mr. agha waqar's team "water kit" as to be a "hoax" ...

question 1 - has mr. agha waqar given any live practical demonstration of the "water kit technology" which he claims that it runs the car on the gas produced from that water kit infront of several teams of scientists and engineers from the govt. & private organisations including the officials of the automobile giants like suzuki and toyota companies ?!?

-ans.- in the recent capital talk tv programme by mr. mir , mr. agha waqar told that he has given a practical demonstration of the water kit which clearly shows the working of the kit and running of the car in front of the science elites invited there and also answered the questions asked by the curious scientific community present there ; this was confirmed by mr. mir in that tv programme ...

question 2 - did mr. agha waqar remove the cng/petrol supply line from the car's engine ?!?

-ans.- yes , he did remove it infront of all the people ; no one challenged that ...

question 3 - did mr. agha waqar install his "water kit" and connect it to the car's engine ?!?

-ans.- yes , he connected that water kit infront of all the people ; no one challenged it either ...

question 4 - did the engine of the car (fitted with water kit) started when he turn the car key with his hands ?!?

-ans.- yes , the car's engine started instantaneously just like the way the cars normally do ; that too was watched by many and no one pointed out any anomali or abnormality in that as well ...

question 4 - the most important question : did mr. agha waqar drive that car (fitted only with water kit ) successfully on the road ?!?

-ans.- yes , the car running solely on the "gas" being produced from the "water kit" was driven continuously for over an hour ,which was witnessed by all the audience , scientists & engineers and some govt. personalities ...


now , ( even just for the sake of argument ) if this whole show was a big lie (or seems to be "hoax" to many mr. smart guys here on this forum) or a fraud then why any one among those so brilliant minds & genius guys [watching that entire episode showing the practical demonstration of the "water kit" working fine on/with the car ] did not point out even just a single anamoly and/or any thing contradicting/violating the basic principles involved in an automobile vehicle ... ?!?

by the way : all you "hoax callers" learn to return respect to any one who tries to do his part in this world to make a difference ...

 

[Rig Vedic]

Can we lock this thread till a third party actually tests and verifies the claims?

The claims have already been verified and endorsed by the highest authorities - Dr Samar Mubarakmand and Dr Abdul Qadeer Khan.

See The water car fraud – The Express Tribune

 

[somebozo]

Let us discuss & debate this technical/engg. issue a little analytically or even in simple terms for general understanding ...

here, i am posting a few questions infront of the smart people community ( on/of this forum ) calling mr. agha waqar's team "water kit" as to be a "hoax" ...

question 1 - has mr. agha waqar given any live practical demonstration of the "water kit technology" which he claims that it runs the car on the gas produced from that water kit infront of several teams of scientists and engineers from the govt. & private organisations including the officials of the automobile giants like suzuki and toyota companies ?!?

-ans.- in the recent capital talk tv programme by mr. mir , mr. agha waqar told that he has given a practical demonstration of the water kit which clearly shows the working of the kit and running of the car in front of the science elites invited there and also answered the questions asked by the curious scientific community present there ; this was confirmed by mr. mir in that tv programme ...

question 2 - did mr. agha waqar remove the cng/petrol supply line from the car's engine ?!?

-ans.- yes , he did remove it infront of all the people ; no one challenged that ...

question 3 - did mr. agha waqar install his "water kit" and connect it to the car's engine ?!?

-ans.- yes , he connected that water kit infront of all the people ; no one challenged it either ...

question 4 - did the engine of the car (fitted with water kit) started when he turn the car key with his hands ?!?

-ans.- yes , the car's engine started instantaneously just like the way the cars normally do ; that too was watched by many and no one pointed out any anomali or abnormality in that as well ...

question 4 - the most important question : did mr. agha waqar drive that car (fitted only with water kit ) successfully on the road ?!?

-ans.- yes , the car running solely on the "gas" being produced from the "water kit" was driven continuously for over an hour ,which was witnessed by all the audience , scientists & engineers and some govt. personalities ...


now , ( even just for the sake of argument ) if this whole show was a big lie (or seems to be "hoax" to many mr. smart guys here on this forum) or a fraud then why any one among those so brilliant minds & genius guys [watching that entire episode showing the practical demonstration of the "water kit" working fine on/with the car ] did not point out even just a single anamoly and/or any thing contradicting/violating the basic principles involved in an automobile vehicle ... ?!?

by the way : all you "hoax callers" learn to return respect to any one who tries to do his part in this world to make a difference ...

The guy failed miserably when he provided the technical breakdown of the kit in-front of Dr Samar and admitted to using carbide as a catalyst. That no brainer as carbide + water gives off acetylene. No electrolysis and batteries required here.

It is evident that you did not pass your science class by fair means.

 

[A.Rafay]

He is a Fraud Now dont Troll Here @Webmaster please close this thread before Waqar agha opens a account here on PDF and start Trolling about his pointless invention

 

[Not Sure]

Water world

Eminent physicist Dr Pervez Hoodbhoy and former Higher Education Commission head Dr Attaur Rehman have criticised Agha Waqar, who claims to have invented the water kit that can power a car, for making a mockery of science. However, Soomro called Dr Attaur Rehman, a “production of dictatorship” while categorically rejecting the latter’s scepticism at Waqar’s claims.

Dr Atta refused to respond to the provincial law minister’s statement. He said that it should be enough to evaluate the veracity of the allegation that he was never affiliated with any political party but received civil awards for his services from almost all political leaders, including Benazir Bhutto.

Meanwhile, the question of proper technical examination of the water kit was only brought up in a meeting held at the President House on Wednesday. The meeting, which was presided over by the principal secretary to the president Salman Farooqui, concluded that the car with a water-kit installed will be sent to the National University of Science and Technology (NUST) in Islamabad. The officials were supposed to send the car to the university on Thursday morning but this did not happen.

When Waqar was asked by The Express Tribune why he did not show up at NUST on Thursday, he said that the plan had changed. “The technical examination has now been deferred for an unidentified period of time and will not happen soon,” he said. When inquired to explain the reason for the deferral, Waqar simply hung up the phone.

He knows his bluff has been called. While a lot of people were trying to persecute Ata Ur Rehman, no one will say a thing to this conman for deliberately embarrassing their country.

 

[kṣamā]

Using my knowledge in field of science, this type of invention is quite possible.

It will although take 200 litres of water to run for 5 minutes or so at average speed (rough guess).

I see no reason to believe it is fraud and neither do I see any reason to believe in the efficiency. Time will answer all our questions, so better wait and watch what it has to reveal.

(PS. I do not like the motives of this person).

Sir I would like to see a mathematical or theoretical proof of concept. I have in a thread spoken about the hydrogen yield capacity of water. If we take H2 to be combustible at lowest possible mix ratio ie, 4% or 48CC for a 1200CC engine, for hydrogen that is 48.102 mL and below from my previous post u can see how much hydrogen is produced by 1.5 Lts of water let alone 200Lts

1.5 liter = 1500 ml or 1500 gm of water. So, 1.5 liter = 83.33 mole of water (1 mole = 18gm of water). So its electrolysis should yield 83.33 mole of H2. And from above point the electrolysis of that much water should take 23,509.16 kJ or 6.53 kwatt-hours of energy. I am not sure that a humble car battery has that kind of power rating. Moreover the man himself says that the car has not be altered in any aspect so a high energy dense battery can be stricken from discussion.

Also that much amount of hydrogen would require 1868.972 L at STP and I donn think a car tyre can provide a oxygen-free environment to store that hydrogen (as shown in the video). Hydrogen is highly explosive at 4 - 74% concentration

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/econom...er-makes-car-runs-water-22.html#ixzz22Xp6oZVq

So IF there exist any IC engine which can sustain its cycle by exploding H2 in its cylinder then I suppose even a very small fuel tank it can go touring.

 

[somebozo]

Sir I would like to see a mathematical or theoretical proof of concept. I have in a thread spoken about the hydrogen yield capacity of water. If we take H2 to be combustible at lowest possible mix ratio ie, 4% or 48CC for a 1200CC engine, for hydrogen that is 48.102 mL and below from my previous post u can see how much hydrogen is produced by 1.5 Lts of water let alone 200Lts



So IF there exist any IC engine which can sustain its cycle by exploding H2 in its cylinder then I suppose even a very small fuel tank it can go touring.

this i o'level chemistry. what i find comical is that the moron himself does not know the basics of science and he is applying electricity after using his so called "catalyst" which is calcium carbide. It looks like someone conned him and put him on national TV.

 

[kṣamā]

Pray tell us ignorant commonfolk .....

Reading old English writers it seems ... Nice to see someone else interested. Pro Writer or just an enthusiast??

this i o'level chemistry.

And what should that mean to me or others ??

 

[Dance]

A lot of this is the media's fault.

Why are they giving him attention (which is clearly all he wants). He's already been proven a fraud so why is the media still milking this story?

Stop giving him attention and he'll go away.