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Wary of China, India offers Akash surface-to-air missile systems to Vietnam
Rajat Pandit| TNN | Updated: Jan 9, 2017, 01.22 AM IST
HIGHLIGHTS
  • Sources say discussions are under way with Vietnam on the Akash area defence missiles
  • The missiles have an interception range of 25-km against hostile aircraft, helicopters & drones
  • This comes in the backdrop of India & Vietnam deciding to “elevate” their “strategic partnership”
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Indigenously developed Akash surface-to-air missile. (TOI File Photo)
NEW DELHI: India is now actively discussing the possible sale of the indigenously developed Akash surface-to-air missile systems to Vietnam, even as the two countries steadily crank up their bilateral military ties with a watchful eye on a confrontational China in the Asia-Pacific region.

With Beijing continuing to thwart New Delhi's bid to join the 48-nation Nuclear Suppliers Group and get Jaish-e-Muhammed chief Masood Azhar designated a terrorist by the UN, while also stepping up its naval forays into the Indian Ocean Region, India is responding by fast-tracking military ties with countries in China's own backyard. The expanding "strategic and military partnership" with Japan and Vietnam, in particular, has emerged a major thrust area.

Sources say the discussions under way with Vietnam on the Akash area defence missiles, which have an interception range of 25-km against hostile aircraft, helicopters and drones, come after India earlier offered BrahMos supersonic cruise missiles and Varunastra anti-submarine torpedoes to the country.

India, of course, will also begin training Vietnamese fighter pilots on its Sukhoi-30MKI fighter jets from this year, much like it has been tutoring sailors from that country on the intricate art of operating Kilo-class submarines for the last three years, as reported earlier by TOI.

Defence minister Manohar Parrikar says Vietnam "is a close friend" and several initiatives are in progress to further boost bilateral defence cooperation, ranging from help in upgrade of military equipment of the Vietnamese forces to training them on fighters and submarines.

All this comes in the backdrop of India and Vietnam deciding to "elevate" their "strategic partnership", which was established in July 2007, into a "comprehensive strategic partnership" during PM Narendra Modi's visit to Hanoi in September 2016.

Sources said Vietnam has shown "deep interest" in the acquisition of Akash missiles, asking for transfer of technology and joint production of the air defence system.

India, however, thinks it has to be an incremental process, with an initial off-the-shelf purchase followed by transfer of technology in maintenance and other areas.

"Talks are in progress to arrive at a common plan. It's relatively easier on the Akash front since the missile system is 96% indigenous," said a source. The two defence secretaries, incidentally, are slated to meet soon to identify the military projects and equipment under the new $500 million defence line of credit announced by Modi in September.

But it will be more complicated to sell the 290-km range BrahMos — or transfer technology — to Vietnam because the missiles are produced here under a joint Indo-Russian venture. BrahMos missiles still have an import content of over 60% from Russia.

On other fronts, however, India is fast expanding its military training, technology sharing, joint exercises, visits and exchange of experts with Vietnam. Faced with a belligerent China, Vietnam too has been strengthening its military capabilities by inducting Kilo-class submarines and Sukhoi fighters from Russia, both of which have been operated by Indian armed forces for years.

It was in 2013 that India had kicked off the training of a large number of Vietnamese sailors in "comprehensive underwater combat operations'' in Navy submarine school INS Satavahana, Visakhapatnam.

Now, the training on Sukhois is all set to take off.



http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...l-military-relations/articleshow/56410196.cms
 
25km for a missile that size seems very limited. That's the range of the AIM-120B on the NASAMS HML, which is far smaller.
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Using AIM-120C the range is pushed out to 30-40km and AMRAAM-ER, an ESSM-AMRAAM hybrid pushed the range out even further, to about 50-60km. AIM-9X Block II can also be used, but has a range of roughly 15km max.

Akash is comparable to Kub which it externally resembles, but is completely outclassed in range by Kub's successor Buk and its subsequent variants like Buk-M2 which doubled the range.
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Buk is also smaller and has a larger warhead then either Kub or Akash.
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I dunno:unsure:. Akash's range seems very limited for a missile that size in this day and age. That was normal in the 70s when Kub first came on-line, but missiles have gotten smaller and their ranges extended since then without sacrificing lethality.
 
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So it starts.

25km for a missile that size seems very limited. That's the range of the AIM-120B on the NASAMS HML, which is far smaller.

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tknasams6560.t54081f1e.m1600.x0facdc6d.jpg


Using AIM-120C the range is pushed out to 30-40km and AMRAAM-ER, an ESSM-AMRAAM hybrid pushed the range out even further, to about 50-60km. AIM-9X Block II can also be used, but has a range of roughly 15km max.

I dunno:unsure:. Akash's range seems very limited for a missile that size
Trained eyes might be able to tell actual range :)
 
Just a question will few Small range SAMS makes a difference??
 
The dhotis wont have the balls to pull the trigger, they are just providing lip service to the Viets, the have championed the art.
 
Just a question will few Small range SAMS makes a difference??
You have limited knowledge of defense equipment, If its not required at all, why would this world make short range SAM , buddy its first you have longer range defense shield and then you narrow down to smallest, Akash in India protect our Air ports military installations and ports. You dont need s 400 to protect Airports, do you ?
 
Wary of China, India offers Akash surface-to-air missile systems to Vietnam
Rajat Pandit| TNN | Updated: Jan 9, 2017, 01.22 AM IST
HIGHLIGHTS
  • Sources say discussions are under way with Vietnam on the Akash area defence missiles
  • The missiles have an interception range of 25-km against hostile aircraft, helicopters & drones
  • This comes in the backdrop of India & Vietnam deciding to “elevate” their “strategic partnership”
56410242.jpg
Indigenously developed Akash surface-to-air missile. (TOI File Photo)
NEW DELHI: India is now actively discussing the possible sale of the indigenously developed Akash surface-to-air missile systems to Vietnam, even as the two countries steadily crank up their bilateral military ties with a watchful eye on a confrontational China in the Asia-Pacific region.

With Beijing continuing to thwart New Delhi's bid to join the 48-nation Nuclear Suppliers Group and get Jaish-e-Muhammed chief Masood Azhar designated a terrorist by the UN, while also stepping up its naval forays into the Indian Ocean Region, India is responding by fast-tracking military ties with countries in China's own backyard. The expanding "strategic and military partnership" with Japan and Vietnam, in particular, has emerged a major thrust area.

Sources say the discussions under way with Vietnam on the Akash area defence missiles, which have an interception range of 25-km against hostile aircraft, helicopters and drones, come after India earlier offered BrahMos supersonic cruise missiles and Varunastra anti-submarine torpedoes to the country.

India, of course, will also begin training Vietnamese fighter pilots on its Sukhoi-30MKI fighter jets from this year, much like it has been tutoring sailors from that country on the intricate art of operating Kilo-class submarines for the last three years, as reported earlier by TOI.

Defence minister Manohar Parrikar says Vietnam "is a close friend" and several initiatives are in progress to further boost bilateral defence cooperation, ranging from help in upgrade of military equipment of the Vietnamese forces to training them on fighters and submarines.

All this comes in the backdrop of India and Vietnam deciding to "elevate" their "strategic partnership", which was established in July 2007, into a "comprehensive strategic partnership" during PM Narendra Modi's visit to Hanoi in September 2016.

Sources said Vietnam has shown "deep interest" in the acquisition of Akash missiles, asking for transfer of technology and joint production of the air defence system.

India, however, thinks it has to be an incremental process, with an initial off-the-shelf purchase followed by transfer of technology in maintenance and other areas.

"Talks are in progress to arrive at a common plan. It's relatively easier on the Akash front since the missile system is 96% indigenous," said a source. The two defence secretaries, incidentally, are slated to meet soon to identify the military projects and equipment under the new $500 million defence line of credit announced by Modi in September.

But it will be more complicated to sell the 290-km range BrahMos — or transfer technology — to Vietnam because the missiles are produced here under a joint Indo-Russian venture. BrahMos missiles still have an import content of over 60% from Russia.

On other fronts, however, India is fast expanding its military training, technology sharing, joint exercises, visits and exchange of experts with Vietnam. Faced with a belligerent China, Vietnam too has been strengthening its military capabilities by inducting Kilo-class submarines and Sukhoi fighters from Russia, both of which have been operated by Indian armed forces for years.

It was in 2013 that India had kicked off the training of a large number of Vietnamese sailors in "comprehensive underwater combat operations'' in Navy submarine school INS Satavahana, Visakhapatnam.

Now, the training on Sukhois is all set to take off.



http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...l-military-relations/articleshow/56410196.cms

Times of India should stop giving sesnsational title to a regular news....Why every news has to be attributed to as "Wary of China"...Pathetic news paper always try to fabricate the news to create a perception among people...

If India has to sell anything to Vietnam, then sell it irrespective of China is there or not...It is as if, we sell something to Vietnam, we are doing some favor to them..
 
25km for a missile that size seems very limited. That's the range of the AIM-120B on the NASAMS HML, which is far smaller.

20160127tk_2726.t56a9a7e9.m1600.x37fb2ff7.jpg


tknasams6560.t54081f1e.m1600.x0facdc6d.jpg


Using AIM-120C the range is pushed out to 30-40km and AMRAAM-ER, an ESSM-AMRAAM hybrid pushed the range out even further, to about 50-60km. AIM-9X Block II can also be used, but has a range of roughly 15km max.

I dunno:unsure:. Akash's range seems very limited for a missile that size
What do u expect? It's from India

Wary of China, India offers Akash surface-to-air missile systems to Vietnam
Rajat Pandit| TNN | Updated: Jan 9, 2017, 01.22 AM IST
HIGHLIGHTS
  • Sources say discussions are under way with Vietnam on the Akash area defence missiles
  • The missiles have an interception range of 25-km against hostile aircraft, helicopters & drones
  • This comes in the backdrop of India & Vietnam deciding to “elevate” their “strategic partnership”
56410242.jpg
Indigenously developed Akash surface-to-air missile. (TOI File Photo)
NEW DELHI: India is now actively discussing the possible sale of the indigenously developed Akash surface-to-air missile systems to Vietnam, even as the two countries steadily crank up their bilateral military ties with a watchful eye on a confrontational China in the Asia-Pacific region.

With Beijing continuing to thwart New Delhi's bid to join the 48-nation Nuclear Suppliers Group and get Jaish-e-Muhammed chief Masood Azhar designated a terrorist by the UN, while also stepping up its naval forays into the Indian Ocean Region, India is responding by fast-tracking military ties with countries in China's own backyard. The expanding "strategic and military partnership" with Japan and Vietnam, in particular, has emerged a major thrust area.

Sources say the discussions under way with Vietnam on the Akash area defence missiles, which have an interception range of 25-km against hostile aircraft, helicopters and drones, come after India earlier offered BrahMos supersonic cruise missiles and Varunastra anti-submarine torpedoes to the country.

India, of course, will also begin training Vietnamese fighter pilots on its Sukhoi-30MKI fighter jets from this year, much like it has been tutoring sailors from that country on the intricate art of operating Kilo-class submarines for the last three years, as reported earlier by TOI.

Defence minister Manohar Parrikar says Vietnam "is a close friend" and several initiatives are in progress to further boost bilateral defence cooperation, ranging from help in upgrade of military equipment of the Vietnamese forces to training them on fighters and submarines.

All this comes in the backdrop of India and Vietnam deciding to "elevate" their "strategic partnership", which was established in July 2007, into a "comprehensive strategic partnership" during PM Narendra Modi's visit to Hanoi in September 2016.

Sources said Vietnam has shown "deep interest" in the acquisition of Akash missiles, asking for transfer of technology and joint production of the air defence system.

India, however, thinks it has to be an incremental process, with an initial off-the-shelf purchase followed by transfer of technology in maintenance and other areas.

"Talks are in progress to arrive at a common plan. It's relatively easier on the Akash front since the missile system is 96% indigenous," said a source. The two defence secretaries, incidentally, are slated to meet soon to identify the military projects and equipment under the new $500 million defence line of credit announced by Modi in September.

But it will be more complicated to sell the 290-km range BrahMos — or transfer technology — to Vietnam because the missiles are produced here under a joint Indo-Russian venture. BrahMos missiles still have an import content of over 60% from Russia.

On other fronts, however, India is fast expanding its military training, technology sharing, joint exercises, visits and exchange of experts with Vietnam. Faced with a belligerent China, Vietnam too has been strengthening its military capabilities by inducting Kilo-class submarines and Sukhoi fighters from Russia, both of which have been operated by Indian armed forces for years.

It was in 2013 that India had kicked off the training of a large number of Vietnamese sailors in "comprehensive underwater combat operations'' in Navy submarine school INS Satavahana, Visakhapatnam.

Now, the training on Sukhois is all set to take off.



http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...l-military-relations/articleshow/56410196.cms

Viets are not stupid, why buy junk from India, while India itself buy air defense from Russia and Israel
 
why in gods name would they buy that? heck the indian army were forced to buy it as the spyder was far more capable. im thinking its incredibly cheap
 

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