Want to leave West

[MultaniGuy]

Yes in West you will get paid for the work you put in. Although you will face prejudices from locals.

In Pakistan you might work really hard but someone higher up might screw you out of your money cuz they dont like you.

Absolutely that is something I had to put up with as well. The prejudices from the locals.

 

[SorryNotSorry]

Sick and Tired of battling racial prejudice in White America Reborn. Especially being muslim we face Jokes, puns, innuendos which just makes you sick to your stomach. And we as a community day by day absorb the venom that White Americans have to spew out and instead of doing something about it. We become angry and fight within ourselves. An internalized and intra racism type of situation. And we use that venom that we absorbed and throw it around on our fellow muslims.

I've heard people mocking me, my brown/muslim appearance, muslim women, Prophet Muhammad alai salam etc etc sometimes in disguised words, and somwtimes openly(sometimes in a joke and sometimes in a very hostile manner)

For them you just have to be white in color. Doesnt matter if your are of African descent with curly hair, if you are muslim, mexican or whatever if you are white in color all is good. If not get ready to have a truckload of bs thrown at you. YOU JUST HAVE TO BE WHITE.

If being a muslim I want to be accepted in a social group or want a nicer job/higher position. I cannot have my religion reflect poorly on the company. And I should be ready to give up the beard, salah, quran

Ohh and you cannot have an accent. Either you speak murican or u dont (a girl literally once told me you dont speak American I was like girl that aint even a language but thats beside the point).

With previous regimes they kept up appearances of being this exaggerated liberator/savior of humanity. And we the muslims had pur own safety nets i.e stay in muslim majority/liberal metropolitan areas and dont go to white country outside of Chicago, parts of mid-west, NYC, NJ, California, etc. But now all of these safety nets and filters are withering away. With the new Mr.President.

And assuming this is going to be the case in most European countries.

I would like to escape the West.

So fellow PDfers if you could please recommend a reasonable country where a practising muslim family can live comfortably without facing hatred.

I was considering gulf countrues but they also seem to have the whole arab vs non arab hate disease. I thought of China(xinjiang) but they went ahead and threw all muslims into concentration camps including wives of some Pakistanis. I thought of Turkey but they are very vey divided about accepting proper muslims vs impressing eu/non muslim white people.

Is Allah azzawajal testing me??

What choices would you recommend people??

Here’s some actual advice that worked for many people who came from India and found themselves lost like you:
Find another place to live where you have others like you. Many towns all across have huge southeast Asian populations(like the ones you’ve mentioned). Also, go out there and be personable so that you can make some real friends. These online/PDF friends can’t help you. Be strong.
Stop blaming this on Trump/political climate. Stop over analyzing the news/politics. You sound paranoid, lonely/depressed.
If all this fails: there’s always your motherland. There’s no shame in going back. My father found himself in a similar situation in his youth, where he gave up his American citizenship to return to India.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Here’s some actual advice that worked for many people who came from India and found themselves lost like you:
Find another place to live where you have others like you. Many towns all across have huge southeast Asian populations(like the ones you’ve mentioned). Also, go out there and be personable so that you can make some real friends. These online/PDF friends can’t help you. Be strong.
Stop blaming this on Trump/political climate. Stop over analyzing the news/politics. You sound paranoid, lonely/depressed.
If all this fails: there’s always your motherland. There’s no shame in going back. My father found himself in a similar situation in his youth, where he gave up his American citizenship to return to India.

Yeah I heard that many Indians went back to India after leaving Europe and North America. I actually have respect for those Indians.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Good advice. Respect to you dear Indian

Here’s some actual advice that worked for many people who came from India and found themselves lost like you:
Find another place to live where you have others like you. Many towns all across have huge southeast Asian populations(like the ones you’ve mentioned). Also, go out there and be personable so that you can make some real friends. These online/PDF friends can’t help you. Be strong.
Stop blaming this on Trump/political climate. Stop over analyzing the news/politics. You sound paranoid, lonely/depressed.
If all this fails: there’s always your motherland. There’s no shame in going back. My father found himself in a similar situation in his youth, where he gave up his American citizenship to return to India.

 

[Divergent]

@Ahmet Pasha terrible to hear what you’re experiencing and it most definitely is not acceptable especially in this day and age. My advice to you would be Canada, UK or U.A.E Countries. It’s all a matter of finding the right area - absolutely nothing wrong with moving away. Life is too short to put up with negative and toxic energy. The World is your oyster.

 

[SorryNotSorry]

Yeah I heard that many Indians went back to India after leaving Europe and North America. I actually have respect for those Indians.

He cherished his family, friends, values/customs way too much to stay in the states. Plus he didn’t think it was a good place to raise his kids- so he gave up his business. I respect him for that decision too.

 

[Clutch]

Sick and Tired of battling racial prejudice in White America Reborn. Especially being muslim we face Jokes, puns, innuendos which just makes you sick to your stomach. And we as a community day by day absorb the venom that White Americans have to spew out and instead of doing something about it. We become angry and fight within ourselves. An internalized and intra racism type of situation. And we use that venom that we absorbed and throw it around on our fellow muslims.

I've heard people mocking me, my brown/muslim appearance, muslim women, Prophet Muhammad alai salam etc etc sometimes in disguised words, and somwtimes openly(sometimes in a joke and sometimes in a very hostile manner)

For them you just have to be white in color. Doesnt matter if your are of African descent with curly hair, if you are muslim, mexican or whatever if you are white in color all is good. If not get ready to have a truckload of bs thrown at you. YOU JUST HAVE TO BE WHITE.

If being a muslim I want to be accepted in a social group or want a nicer job/higher position. I cannot have my religion reflect poorly on the company. And I should be ready to give up the beard, salah, quran

Ohh and you cannot have an accent. Either you speak murican or u dont (a girl literally once told me you dont speak American I was like girl that aint even a language but thats beside the point).

With previous regimes they kept up appearances of being this exaggerated liberator/savior of humanity. And we the muslims had pur own safety nets i.e stay in muslim majority/liberal metropolitan areas and dont go to white country outside of Chicago, parts of mid-west, NYC, NJ, California, etc. But now all of these safety nets and filters are withering away. With the new Mr.President.

And assuming this is going to be the case in most European countries.

I would like to escape the West.

So fellow PDfers if you could please recommend a reasonable country where a practising muslim family can live comfortably without facing hatred.

I was considering gulf countrues but they also seem to have the whole arab vs non arab hate disease. I thought of China(xinjiang) but they went ahead and threw all muslims into concentration camps including wives of some Pakistanis. I thought of Turkey but they are very vey divided about accepting proper muslims vs impressing eu/non muslim white people.

Is Allah azzawajal testing me??

What choices would you recommend people??

If you are Pakistani... Come home and setup shop outside the urban places.... No place like home... And work towards ...
Making Pakistan Great Again!

 

[SorryNotSorry]

Good advice. Respect to you dear Indian

Hang in there buddy. I’m sure -you’ll find a way.

 

[Mugwop]

Why do not you convert from Islam to Judaism or Christianity. That should solve religious divide though you still have to fight the racial divide.

LOL! Have you heard the history of Black christians in America.
Converting won't do jack. It's brown hairy skin that triggers some anglo americans. Not religion but a different skin tone. Native Americans know it,Mexicans who are christians know it,Some of your people know it but won't admit it and ofcourse African Americans know it.

 

[MultaniGuy]

He cherished his family, friends, values/customs way too much to stay in the states. Plus he didn’t think it was a good place to raise his kids- so he gave up his business. I respect him for that decision too.

LOL! Have you heard the history of Black christians in America.
Converting won't do jack. It's brown hairy skin that triggers some anglo americans. Not religion but a different skin tone. Native Americans know it,Mexicans who are christians know it,Some of your people know it but won't admit it and ofcourse African Americans know it.

Agreed USA still a racist place. Not denying that.

 

[Mugwop]

Sick and Tired of battling racial prejudice in White America Reborn. Especially being muslim we face Jokes, puns, innuendos which just makes you sick to your stomach. And we as a community day by day absorb the venom that White Americans have to spew out and instead of doing something about it. We become angry and fight within ourselves. An internalized and intra racism type of situation. And we use that venom that we absorbed and throw it around on our fellow muslims.

I've heard people mocking me, my brown/muslim appearance, muslim women, Prophet Muhammad alai salam etc etc sometimes in disguised words, and somwtimes openly(sometimes in a joke and sometimes in a very hostile manner)

For them you just have to be white in color. Doesnt matter if your are of African descent with curly hair, if you are muslim, mexican or whatever if you are white in color all is good. If not get ready to have a truckload of bs thrown at you. YOU JUST HAVE TO BE WHITE.

If being a muslim I want to be accepted in a social group or want a nicer job/higher position. I cannot have my religion reflect poorly on the company. And I should be ready to give up the beard, salah, quran

Ohh and you cannot have an accent. Either you speak murican or u dont (a girl literally once told me you dont speak American I was like girl that aint even a language but thats beside the point).

With previous regimes they kept up appearances of being this exaggerated liberator/savior of humanity. And we the muslims had pur own safety nets i.e stay in muslim majority/liberal metropolitan areas and dont go to white country outside of Chicago, parts of mid-west, NYC, NJ, California, etc. But now all of these safety nets and filters are withering away. With the new Mr.President.

And assuming this is going to be the case in most European countries.

I would like to escape the West.

So fellow PDfers if you could please recommend a reasonable country where a practising muslim family can live comfortably without facing hatred.

I was considering gulf countrues but they also seem to have the whole arab vs non arab hate disease. I thought of China(xinjiang) but they went ahead and threw all muslims into concentration camps including wives of some Pakistanis. I thought of Turkey but they are very vey divided about accepting proper muslims vs impressing eu/non muslim white people.

Is Allah azzawajal testing me??

What choices would you recommend people??

I am sorry to say this but you have more rights here than compared to a muslim country. The reason these sadistic white supremacists mess with some brown skin people is because they know they won't fight back. Blacks have faced the brunt of it for years and were left alone when they fought back. When I say fight back it doesn't necessarily mean get physical but you can take them to court and sue the shit out of them.

Agreed USA still a racist place. Not denying that.

Some states yes!

Sorry but those cars look hideous and are probably as sharp as paddle boat around corners.

My friend they may look hideous but in terms of reliability "not speed" they are the best.

 

[MultaniGuy]

I am sorry to say this but you have more rights here than compared to a muslim country. The reason these sadistic white supremacists mess with some brown skin people is because they know they won't fight back. Blacks have faced the brunt of it for years and were left alone when they fought back. When I say fight back it doesn't necessarily mean get physical but you can take them to court and sue the shit out of them.


Some states yes!


My friend they may look hideous but in terms of reliability "not speed" they are the best.

In Pakistan citizens have all the rights they need. Don't know what you are talking about.

Disagree with you on this one.
Some Western countries/areas have discrimination against religion like France, Quebec, and Switzerland.

 

[YeBeWarned]

@Ahmet Pasha terrible to hear what you’re experiencing and it most definitely is not acceptable especially in this day and age. My advice to you would be Canada, UK or U.A.E Countries. It’s all a matter of finding the right area - absolutely nothing wrong with moving away. Life is too short to put up with negative and toxic energy. The World is your oyster.

been to UAE twice , i would advice against it , it used to be a good place to live not anymore ... been around many non rich/Arab neighborhoods, polluted by Indians and Bangli ..

 

[Vikki]

Sick and Tired of battling racial prejudice in White America Reborn. Especially being muslim we face Jokes, puns, innuendos which just makes you sick to your stomach. And we as a community day by day absorb the venom that White Americans have to spew out and instead of doing something about it. We become angry and fight within ourselves. An internalized and intra racism type of situation. And we use that venom that we absorbed and throw it around on our fellow muslims.

I've heard people mocking me, my brown/muslim appearance, muslim women, Prophet Muhammad alai salam etc etc sometimes in disguised words, and somwtimes openly(sometimes in a joke and sometimes in a very hostile manner)

For them you just have to be white in color. Doesnt matter if your are of African descent with curly hair, if you are muslim, mexican or whatever if you are white in color all is good. If not get ready to have a truckload of bs thrown at you. YOU JUST HAVE TO BE WHITE.

If being a muslim I want to be accepted in a social group or want a nicer job/higher position. I cannot have my religion reflect poorly on the company. And I should be ready to give up the beard, salah, quran

Ohh and you cannot have an accent. Either you speak murican or u dont (a girl literally once told me you dont speak American I was like girl that aint even a language but thats beside the point).

With previous regimes they kept up appearances of being this exaggerated liberator/savior of humanity. And we the muslims had pur own safety nets i.e stay in muslim majority/liberal metropolitan areas and dont go to white country outside of Chicago, parts of mid-west, NYC, NJ, California, etc. But now all of these safety nets and filters are withering away. With the new Mr.President.

And assuming this is going to be the case in most European countries.

I would like to escape the West.

So fellow PDfers if you could please recommend a reasonable country where a practising muslim family can live comfortably without facing hatred.

I was considering gulf countrues but they also seem to have the whole arab vs non arab hate disease. I thought of China(xinjiang) but they went ahead and threw all muslims into concentration camps including wives of some Pakistanis. I thought of Turkey but they are very vey divided about accepting proper muslims vs impressing eu/non muslim white people.

Is Allah azzawajal testing me??

What choices would you recommend people??

Why dont you go back to pakistan mate?

 

[Zibago]

Hi,

Now with all that discrimination in the US---just compare yourself to being a christian in pakistan---hell hath no fury like a pakistani muslim spurned.

Move to california---. You will fit in nicely---.

Ouch