Walton brings revolutionary change in TV technology sector

[Arulmozhi Varman]

Is there anyone who can teach @UKBengali anything worth? He thinks this technology is something Walton is inventing and jumping up and down with innocent joy. It is time BD starts making a good application of the throwaway 1IR technologies to go forward. Otherwise, it will remain as backward for a thousand more years as it is today.

Even a $30 billion FDI per year will not do any magic. Best is, go to basic learning, apply, produce goods for mass consumption and import less.

The words in the news items in Walton websites are obviously nothing much. Every company boasts about it. Supposedly the largest Indian automobile manufacturer gets its engine tech for larger models from Fiat. There is nothing wrong about it. And doesnt mean they arent doing any investments on it. Some technologies simply take time to mature with lots of money and talent.
Samsung has the world's best mind working for them. My friend is still in Korea working for them, deputed from Bangalore. And Gods knows the amount of money given by them to various universities to US and Korea in this field of research. And that's how the technology matures. This guy claiming is like BD's first ever rocket is going to launch 10000 kgs directly to Mars without ever launching a small one.

 

[bluesky]

The words in the news items in Walton websites are obviously nothing much. Every company boasts about it. Supposedly the largest Indian automobile manufacturer gets its engine tech for larger models from Fiat. There is nothing wrong about it. And doesnt mean they arent doing any investments on it. Some technologies simply take time to mature with lots of money and talent.
Samsung has the world's best mind working for them. My friend is still in Korea working for them, deputed from Bangalore. And Gods knows the amount of money given by them to various universities to US and Korea in this field of research. And that's how the technology matures. This guy claiming is like BD's first ever rocket is going to launch 10000 kgs directly to Mars without ever launching a small one.

Some guys in BD live in something I may call "Surreal World" unable to understand the difference between two realities, one is the reality of the developed world and the other is the reality of 3rd world countries like BD. They think everything is possible to accomplish without giving a very long time effort, sufficient labor and brain, and money.

These guys are the brainchildren of Hasina Bibi who has declared airports in every Mahalla, Jetplane manufacturing and space missions. But, I ask these brats to re-invent locomotive wheels in the factories which itself is a tough job for these big dreamers.

 

[Arulmozhi Varman]

Some guys in BD live in something I may call "Surreal World" unable to understand the difference between two realities, one is the reality of the developed world and the other is the reality of 3rd world countries like BD. They think everything is possible to accomplish without giving a very long time effort, sufficient labor and brain, and money.

These guys are the brainchildren of Hasina Bibi who has declared airports in every Mahalla, Jetplane manufacturing and space missions. But, I ask these brats to re-invent locomotive wheels in the factories which itself is a tough job for these big dreamers.

BD can do things. Any country can do it. But expertise have to be built slowly. It didnt export 36B dollars of RMG in a single year. It perhaps took 15 years.

With more kinder appreciation to them, I hope they understand they "read" what they post.

 

[UKBengali]

The words in the news items in Walton websites are obviously nothing much. Every company boasts about it. Supposedly the largest Indian automobile manufacturer gets its engine tech for larger models from Fiat. There is nothing wrong about it. And doesnt mean they arent doing any investments on it. Some technologies simply take time to mature with lots of money and talent.
Samsung has the world's best mind working for them. My friend is still in Korea working for them, deputed from Bangalore. And Gods knows the amount of money given by them to various universities to US and Korea in this field of research. And that's how the technology matures. This guy claiming is like BD's first ever rocket is going to launch 10000 kgs directly to Mars without ever launching a small one.

Yes a random PDF poster has a "friend" that works for Samsung in Korea.

Dude, you aware that Walton spends 10s of millions of US dollars on R&D every year and has more than a 1000 engineers and scientists in the department?
They are not inventing new tech but refining and improving previous tech and so do not need to spend billions of US dollars every year on this.

 

[baajey]

Thanks dude.

No problem. Simply credits are where its due.

 

[Arulmozhi Varman]

Yes a random PDF poster has a "friend" that works for Samsung in Korea.

Dude, you aware that Walton spends 10s of millions of US dollars on R&D every year and has more than a 1000 engineers and scientists in the department?
They are not inventing new tech but refining and improving previous tech and so do not need to spend billions of US dollars every year on this.

I work in this industry. Lol. You just prove how childish you are... 10's of millions Next what? You couldnt even do mechanical design for that panel with that money... Until unless you wanna do with cast iron...

Do you even have any idea on the other stuff I had posted? Well lemme guess Zero... See you might have expertise in a field in which you might be an expert or have knowledge in. Do not try to force something you have no knowledge on...

Improving new tech? Bought from whom? Do you know people selling panels have kinda limited IP and licensing fee similar to the way Qualcomm has with its clients. You have to pay an huge amount of money even for that. A reason why major panel and smartphone manufacturers use only Samsumg, LG nowadays. Once upon a time they used HTC too but they are outta market now...

But you said they are having "just" 28 patents for QLED plus tech. Whats the R&D budget for Walton television unit? PLease share

 

[UKBengali]

I work in this industry. Lol. You just prove how childish you are... 10's of millions Next what? You couldnt even do mechanical design for that panel with that money... Until unless you wanna do with cast iron...

Do you even have any idea on the other stuff I had posted? Well lemme guess Zero... See you might have expertise in a field in which you might be an expert or have knowledge in. Do not try to force something you have no knowledge on...

Improving new tech? Bought from whom? Do you know people selling panels have kinda limited IP and licensing fee similar to the way Qualcomm has with its clients. You have to pay an huge amount of money even for that. A reason why major panel and smartphone manufacturers use only Samsumg, LG nowadays. Once upon a time they used HTC too but they are outta market now...

But you said they are having "just" 28 patents for QLED plus tech. Whats the R&D budget for Walton television unit? PLease share

OK. You work in industry.
Good for you and now just jog along.

 

[bluesky]

BD can do things. Any country can do it. But expertise have to be built slowly. It didnt export 36B dollars of RMG in a single year. It perhaps took 15 years.

With more kinder appreciation to them, I hope they understand they "read" what they post.

So, can you ask them to do things other than stitching garments before it is too late? No wishful thinking on national survival issue. It is already more than 30 years when we started the textile venture that has become quite successful. It is really very large considering the export value. But, the country remains stuck at that. Its manufacturing base is almost nil that causes it to import every tiny thing including also the sewing machines and needles.

 

[Nike]

So, can you ask them to do things other than stitching garments before it is too late? No wishful thinking on national survival issue. It is already more than 30 years when we started the textile venture that has become quite successful. It is really very large considering the export value. But, the country remains stuck at that. Its manufacturing base is almost nil that causes it to import every tiny thing including also the sewing machines and needles.

But walton had produce great TV!!!

 

[bluesky]

But walton had produce great TV!!!

It is good to see Walton making progress and is gaining fame gradually. But, this thread is all about great and revolutionary changes in TV technology by Walton.

By the way, do you really think BD needs only a few companies like this? A developing country has to set up thousands of manufacturing plants to move towards the next phase of development.

 

[Bilal9]

I work in this industry. Lol. You just prove how childish you are... 10's of millions Next what? You couldnt even do mechanical design for that panel with that money... Until unless you wanna do with cast iron...

Do you even have any idea on the other stuff I had posted? Well lemme guess Zero... See you might have expertise in a field in which you might be an expert or have knowledge in. Do not try to force something you have no knowledge on...

Improving new tech? Bought from whom? Do you know people selling panels have kinda limited IP and licensing fee similar to the way Qualcomm has with its clients. You have to pay an huge amount of money even for that. A reason why major panel and smartphone manufacturers use only Samsumg, LG nowadays. Once upon a time they used HTC too but they are outta market now...

But you said they are having "just" 28 patents for QLED plus tech. Whats the R&D budget for Walton television unit? PLease share

You can work in this industry and can know a lot too (I will give you the benefit of the doubt).

But seems to me you are operating from the simple premise that a Bangladeshi company cannot do things better than say, an Indian company or what your 'assumption' of the capability of a South Asian company is. How tough do you think making an investment is, on say, an IPS Panel production line for TV's and having a back-end research group to support improvements on that product? Eventually Walton has plans to go into manufacturing 4K Panels too.

Is it possible that you may be judging things based on Indian standards or what you see around you?

We're not saying that everything Walton does is somehow unreal. We're only saying that you're obviously ASSUMING a LOT about Walton, not knowing that company's investments in R&D, it's installations etc. just going by pre-conceived notions.

There are reasons why their share of the local electronics/white appliances market in Bangladesh is far ahead of leading Korean brands like LG and SAMSUNG.

To my experience, such achievements are not achievable in India by local Indian brands. You can thank your fly-by-night fraudster business folks like Videocon and Onida for that who use third-rate five-year-old technology and just want simple profit by importing and assembling cheap Chinese parts sub-assemblies and not investing in manufacturing locally using indigenous backward linkage in India. There are reasons why Indian TV's and fridges never got any markets in say Bangladesh for the last three decades in spite of rampant marketing. I am not bad mouthing Indian products, just stating it for what it is, a sad state of affairs for Indian consumers.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Please smell the coffee...

Samsung is already the Quantum dot technology TV under the brand name of QLED
And by the way Quantum Dot Technology is used as marketing term by Samsung, while others like philips, LG etc are moving more towards OLED

https://www.samsung.com/in/tvs/qled_tv/

I would for sure like to see what does that extra "PLUS" brings in Quantum Dot Technology.
And given the current price range of QLED tv's, it would be out of pocket range for many.

still think QD tech needs to impprove... yeah sure the pic quality is better and more efficient but manufacturing process/ capacity is still not very profitable and hence the high prices...
maybe walton is looking into find ways to cut cost... who knows but if they can do it... good for them...
but ofc my bets are on samsung to propel this forward

Lol. Do you even understand the terms whatever its in the news "claimed" in Walton's website?

I will again rephrase. Samsung and LG are the only two Major companies in the world manufacturing and doing research in Panels cos its too damn costly. Other than them, only 1-2 Chinese companies and Sony do them on a small scale. Even Sony isnt manufacturing their own panels much anymore. They have contracted it to companies Foxconn and Samsung. A reason why every major TV or smartphone has just Samsung or LG panels on them.

Now one can slowly progress from one technology to another. They proceeded from LCD to LED, then Half HD, Full HD, 2k, 4k and latestly released 8K LED tech with OLED and QLED tech. One cannot jump from nothing to QLED tech. If so, please ask them to share the amount of R&D invested in the tech, how many patents filed with US or International IP regimes etc.

Now its not to say Walton doesnt have done any progresses. But boasting them and creating a thread for this is childish. In Panels even Chinese,US companies are very far far behind. And its a damn costly field. Takes Billions of research every year with world's best minds working.

agreed but i am just being neutral here and happy seeing a small company trying

Is there anyone who can teach @UKBengali anything worth? He thinks this technology is something Walton is inventing and jumping up and down with innocent joy. It is time BD starts making a good application of the throwaway 1IR technologies to go forward. Otherwise, it will remain as backward for a thousand more years as it is today.

Even a $30 billion FDI per year will not do any magic. Best is, go to basic learning, apply, produce goods for mass consumption and import less.

bruh i don't know what personal gripes you have with him. i understand your point but please try to minimize conflict within the community. shotrur obhab nai ekhane... matha thanda koira discuss koren bhai

 

[bluesky]

bruh i don't know what personal gripes you have with him. i understand your point but please try to minimize conflict within the community. shotrur obhab nai ekhane... matha thanda koira discuss koren bhai

No, there is no personal enmity. Only that I believe BD should re-invent 1IR locomotive wheels and he and some others believe in the 4IR thing that is needed by only those developed countries who have a very large capital base to spend on the research and have a shortage of working-age population at the same time.

To me, BD needs Manufacturing of Things (MoT), but some guys think it is the Internet of Things (IoT) BD needs. However, it is certainly not that the Walton efforts (2IR/3IR) can be criticized. But, I do not see anyone as our enemy when his/her input is good for the country. Self-criticism is one thing that we lack in BD.

 

[Arulmozhi Varman]

still think QD tech needs to impprove... yeah sure the pic quality is better and more efficient but manufacturing process/ capacity is still not very profitable and hence the high prices...
maybe walton is looking into find ways to cut cost... who knows but if they can do it... good for them...
but ofc my bets are on samsung to propel this forward


agreed but i am just being neutral here and happy seeing a small company trying


bruh i don't know what personal gripes you have with him. i understand your point but please try to minimize conflict within the community. shotrur obhab nai ekhane... matha thanda koira discuss koren bhai

I appreciate the fact that Walton, in a small country like BD is investing in Electronic manufacturing and assembly where others dont even dare to venture. Marks for that.

You can work in this industry and can know a lot too (I will give you the benefit of the doubt).

But seems to me you are operating from the simple premise that a Bangladeshi company cannot do things better than say, an Indian company or what your 'assumption' of the capability of a South Asian company is. How tough do you think making an investment is, on say, an IPS Panel production line for TV's and having a back-end research group to support improvements on that product? Eventually Walton has plans to go into manufacturing 4K Panels too.

Is it possible that you may be judging things based on Indian standards or what you see around you?

We're not saying that everything Walton does is somehow unreal. We're only saying that you're obviously ASSUMING a LOT about Walton, not knowing that company's investments in R&D, it's installations etc. just going by pre-conceived notions.

There are reasons why their share of the local electronics/white appliances market in Bangladesh is far ahead of leading Korean brands like LG and SAMSUNG.

To my experience, such achievements are not achievable in India by local Indian brands. You can thank your fly-by-night fraudster business folks like Videocon and Onida for that who use third-rate five-year-old technology and just want simple profit by importing and assembling cheap Chinese parts sub-assemblies and not investing in manufacturing locally using indigenous backward linkage in India. There are reasons why Indian TV's and fridges never got any markets in say Bangladesh for the last three decades in spite of rampant marketing. I am not bad mouthing Indian products, just stating it for what it is, a sad state of affairs for Indian consumers.

Did I ever compare Walton to any other Indian company? Did i even bring the word India into it? Being from British background your reading of my English is quite very poor.

Second there is a reason why "Fraudsters" companies like Videocon or Onida doesnt have a market anymore in India. Indian market rejects those who doesnt give them money for product. I am not shamelessly defending those Indian companies unlike your compatriot tries to make to do it for your company. Walton if not less, is at the same level of manufacturing capabilities of Videocon or Onida. If it doesnt jack up, the Chinese may enter and it may end up like Indian Micromaxx.

The last most important part is Panels. First and foremost NO. Panels are/wont/will not be manufactured in any other locations except at the said company's own plants. Its a closely guarded secret. Panels/screens are manufactured only at Samsung or LG plants worldwide. Foxconn/HTC does it for some third party guys. And that's it. Walton might be manufacturing some boards for the assembly and mechanical assembly of the imported panels and outer body. And at max, they can be writing some software onto it as Panel software is still mostly based on Android 4 and rarely 5.

I am carefully only blasting an stupid thread where the source is from a company's website with no details on money spent or IP filed. Other than that I am giving credit where its due. If Bangladeshis are thick headed its not my issue.
Bye.

 

[SBUS-CXK]

But walton had produce great TV!!!

Hey friend. you don't want to buy a great Walton TV?