VinFast: Vietnam EV maker valued at more than Ford or GM

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Nasdaq is closed.
Market cap $160 billion

 

[Han Patriot]

Insider trading is a serious offense my friend. You can land in gulag. China is probably too lax in this regard.

BYD is a company to be reckoned with. Great future because Ccp obviously backs the company..

Well depends how you define insider trading. I did not know the stocks were going to rise, what I do know is it is a good company. It was negative publicity from a rival company which devastated it's stock price. And once it's was over the share price recovered. To qualify as an insider trading, i need to know something the public didn't. Profit information were already published quarterly, the difference was I had confidence in this company and it's fundamentalz.

BYD has technology, that's the most important fundamental. Tesla has hype, you either have hype or technology. Then you will survive. VF has stock hype not brand hype. Btw I have traded both in Singapore, HK and US markets, and I realize US is the most hype based of them all.

Well, you just admitted that you had conducted security fraud, and you say I should stop talking stupid??

Geez, you are worse than Rhod Gilbert talking about escalator.

And I did explain to you how that is overvalued. You don't get it or you don't take it is not really my problem.


lol, and he is the one telling people to "Not talk stupid" meanwhile he admitted to trade stock and make profit with insider information.....


You do know Pump and Dump is illegal is most Stock market right? This is a kind of security fraud....

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I would stop talking now if I were you.......this is now beyond just being stupid. You are now crossed the line into illegal activities....

Hey numb numb, whether it was insider trading or fraud, that's another issue. The issue here is how does selling at $1 IPO and buying back at 0.20 equals Overvalued buy? Two mutually exclusive events mate. Stop changing the goalpost, answer me genius.

Pump and dump is illegal if it was done by one person or entity, if it was done by 1000000 idiots, then it becomes what? Investment? Speculation? Gosh, you are pretty naive isn't it, you think stock prices are really fair and real don't you? My friend I have been investing for 20 years and I have seen dumbasses like you all around. They really believe the stock prices correlate with the company's fundamanetals. It is a CASINO of mules, based solely on sentiment, understand dmbfck!

 

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Well depends how you define insider trading. I did not know the stocks were going to rise, what I do know is it is a good company. It was negative publicity from a rival company which devastated it's stock price. And once it's was over the share price recovered. To qualify as an insider trading, i need to know something the public didn't. Profit information were already published quarterly, the difference was I had confidence in this company and it's fundamentalz.

BYD has technology, that's the most important fundamental. Tesla has hype, you either have hype or technology. Then you will survive. VF has stock hype not brand hype. Btw I have traded both in Singapore, HK and US markets, and I realize US is the most hype based of them all.

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Hey numb numb, whether it was insider trading or fraud, that's another issue. The issue here is how does selling at $1 IPO and buying back at 0.20 equals Overvalued buy? Two mutually exclusive events mate. Stop changing the goalpost, answer me genius.

Pump and dump is illegal if it was done by one person or entity, if it was done by 1000000 idiots, then it becomes what? Investment? Speculation? Gosh, you are pretty naive isn't it, you think stock prices are really fair and real don't you? My friend I have been investing for 20 years and I have seen dumbasses like you all around. They really believe the stock prices correlate with the company's fundamanetals. It is a CASINO of mules, based solely on sentiment, understand dmbfck!

Ok leave it to the doubters if insider tradings or not. My assumption is you knew more than the public knew because of family connection.

About Tesla valuation. It’s not all about the hype. If just hype then it will be a short lived story. Ever driving a Tesla or see how the car is made? Tesla has something all other carmakers haven’t.
Gigapressing, efficient supply chain abd manufacturing from a-z, superior driving computer. However Tesla is cheap made if coming to quality. Tesla cars lack of the touch of quality German cars are made of. That is the gap where other carmakers like Vinfast can fill. That’s what investors look for.

 

[CIA Mole]

Ok leave it to the doubters if insider tradings or not. My assumption is you knew more than the public knew because of family connection.

About Tesla valuation. It’s not all about the hype. If just hype then it will be a short lived story. Ever driving a Tesla or see how the car is made? Tesla has something all other carmakers haven’t.
Gigapressing, efficient supply chain abd manufacturing from a-z, superior driving computer. However Tesla is cheap made if coming to quality. Tesla cars lack of the touch of quality German cars are made of. That is the gap where other carmakers like Vinfast can fill. That’s what investors look for.

very hard to beat tesla margins

america still king of high tech manufacturing

 

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very hard to beat tesla margins

america still king of high tech manufacturing

Yes, Tesla is the king. But let’s wait. Tesla strength is efficient manufacturing. Tesla still makes profits when lower prices. Musk wants to kill competitions. That’s ok. Every carmaker wants to kill other carmaker. That’s capitalism.
But VF is just there to eat a portion of Tesla’s cake, not to replace the king. Vietnam strength is manufacturing too. We can make good cars like making good shoes. As cheap as possible.

 

[StraightEdge]

VinFast: Significantly Overvalued (NASDAQ:VFS) | Seeking Alpha

 

[Viet]

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VinFast: Significantly Overvalued (NASDAQ:VFS) | Seeking Alpha

The company is now valued $160 billion. If adding assets minus debts. the company is worth $162 billion.
There is a saying, never bet against the market.

 

[StraightEdge]

The company is now valued $160 billion. If adding assets minus debts. the company is worth $162 billion.
There is a saying, never bet against the market.

You're welcome to invest.

 

[Han Patriot]

Ok leave it to the doubters if insider tradings or not. My assumption is you knew more than the public knew because of family connection.

About Tesla valuation. It’s not all about the hype. If just hype then it will be a short lived story. Ever driving a Tesla or see how the car is made? Tesla has something all other carmakers haven’t.
Gigapressing, efficient supply chain abd manufacturing from a-z, superior driving computer. However Tesla is cheap made if coming to quality. Tesla cars lack of the touch of quality German cars are made of. That is the gap where other carmakers like Vinfast can fill. That’s what investors look for.

Tesla factory is just one hour from my house. Tesla is fine but not comparable to the top Chinese EV, price wise and capability wise. The reason they are surviving is because of brand recognition. Btw Tesla Shanghai main showroom is just 10mins walk from my house, so i have driven it. Just another car mate.

Giga press, is just another higher pressure press, they have the same presss in multiple Chinese factories.

It is made by this Chinese company. Not rocket science mate. There is a reason Chinese Teslas are 30% cheaper. We have an even more streamlined supply chain.

LK Group

L.K. Group is one of the global leaders in producing die-casting machines, plastic injection molding machines and CNC machining centers.

www.lk.world

Tesla is like Apple, good but not worth the price. Example, Chinese cars might score 95% but cost 10k, Tesla might be 98% but cost 20k.you get it? Some people are willing to pay some want price vs benefit advantage.

 

[Viet]

Tesla factory is just one hour from my house. Tesla is fine but not comparable to the top Chinese EV, price wise and capability wise. The reason they are surviving is because of brand recognition. Btw Tesla Shanghai main showroom is just 10mins walk from my house, so i have driven it. Just another car mate.

Giga press, is just another higher pressure press, they have the same presss in multiple Chinese factories.

It is made by this Chinese company. Not rocket science mate. There is a reason Chinese Teslas are 30% cheaper. We have an even more streamlined supply chain.

LK Group

L.K. Group is one of the global leaders in producing die-casting machines, plastic injection molding machines and CNC machining centers.

www.lk.world

Tesla is like Apple, good but not worth the price. Example, Chinese cars might score 95% but cost 10k, Tesla might be 98% but cost 20k.you get it? Some people are willing to pay some want price vs benefit advantage.

I am surprised that the gigapress company Idra belongs to China. How is that possible? The EU must seriously ban all sales of strategic industries to China. If not already in place.

Brand recognition is a hard earned asset. That’s something you don’t get it from heaven. Apple makes good smartphones and ecosystem that’s why its value is high. Why don’t you try it if so easy? You probably will say hey the market is stupid, the customers are stupid.

 

[Han Patriot]

I am surprised that the gigapress company Idra belongs to China. How is that possible? The EU must seriously ban all sales of strategic industries to China. If not already in place.

Brand recognition is a hard earned asset. That’s something you don’t get it from heaven. Apple makes good smartphones and ecosystem that’s why its value is high. Why don’t you try it if so easy? You probably will say hey the market is stupid, the customers are stupid.

Apple don't make anything mate. They don't even assemble it. The only IP they own is the IOS, the phone general design and maybe the A series processors. They have a good eco system because of first mover advantage and a cult fan base. I used both IOS and Android before, Android is way more open and versatile. I told you I never said they don't have a goid product but the cost vs benefit analysis for it is really really really bad compared to Chinese phones.

IDRA is used to market in Europe and the West, it is not rocket science to make high pressure presses man. LK makes the press locally in Shenzhen and multiple car manufacturers have them, it is just a bloody press, stop getting hyped. Hype was what sustained Tesla for a decade until he finally made the hype reality and selling overpriced cars to recoup. It is an overpriced car compared to Chinese cars offering better shit.

When will Asians start to understand this. Hype, prestige and branding, was what helped sell LV plastic bags for hundreds. Human vanity, the West mastered it longggggg ago.

 

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Apple don't make anything mate. They don't even assemble it. The only IP they own is the IOS, the phone general design and maybe the A series processors. They have a good eco system because of first mover advantage and a cult fan base. I used both IOS and Android before, Android is way more open and versatile. I told you I never said they don't have a goid product but the cost vs benefit analysis for it is really really really bad compared to Chinese phones.

IDRA is used to market in Europe and the West, it is not rocket science to make high pressure presses man. LK makes the press locally in Shenzhen and multiple car manufacturers have them, it is just a bloody press, stop getting hyped. Hype was what sustained Tesla for a decade until he finally made the hype reality and selling overpriced cars to recoup. It is an overpriced car compared to Chinese cars offering better shit.

When will Asians start to understand this. Hype, prestige and branding, was what helped sell LV plastic bags for hundreds. Human vanity, the West mastered it longggggg ago.

Apple makes nothing but is valued over 2 trillion USD? Well, that must be magic.

If you are a company you will give your employees iPhone not virus infested android. Apple makes half of revenues by selling everything but not selling iPhones. Yes, people buy French bags for thousands of dollars you know why? Because the bags made in France are “great” (while made in China not).

 

[Han Patriot]

Apple makes nothing but is valued over 2 trillion USD? Well, that must be magic.

If you are a company you will give your employees iPhone not virus infested android. Apple makes half of revenues by selling everything but not selling iPhones. Yes, people buy French bags for thousands of dollars you know why? Because the bags made in France are “great” (while made in China not).

You see exactly my point, is Apple really worth 2 trillion? What is the profit ratio? What is the return per share, if you invest 1 dollar, how much are you getting in return?

Lv bags are not even made in France, 10 years ago my bro used to buy LV bags to resell in Asia for a profit. The bags are MADE IN CHINA. The tag is hidden inside the bags and is made of black leather with dark font, you can't read it unless you really want shine your torch in. It has a longggh explanation about design beauty blablabla and then at the end, China. Lololol.

Who tells you Apple has no viruses, even hackers don't want to develop viruses for Apple since it is so isolated. Lolol

 

[Viet]

You see exactly my point, is Apple really worth 2 trillion? What is the profit ratio? What is the return per share, if you invest 1 dollar, how much are you getting in return?

Lv bags are not even made in France, 10 years ago my bro used to buy LV bags to resell in Asia for a profit. The bags are MADE IN CHINA. The tag is hidden inside the bags and is made of black leather with dark font, you can't read it unless you really want shine your torch in. It has a longggh explanation about design beauty blablabla and then at the end, China. Lololol.

Who tells you Apple has no viruses, even hackers don't want to develop viruses for Apple since it is so isolated. Lolol

Let’s wait for Apple 15 release. Those made in China LV bags must be fake. Nobody seriously pay huge sum for made in China bags. that’s why brand is important. France has a higher price tag than China. For instance A birkin bag costs $10,000 minimum. A let’s say Huawei bag would cost $100. People buy status symbol. China has a very negative touch that lowers the selling price. Blame yourself.

 

[CIA Mole]

You see exactly my point, is Apple really worth 2 trillion? What is the profit ratio? What is the return per share, if you invest 1 dollar, how much are you getting in return?

Lv bags are not even made in France, 10 years ago my bro used to buy LV bags to resell in Asia for a profit. The bags are MADE IN CHINA. The tag is hidden inside the bags and is made of black leather with dark font, you can't read it unless you really want shine your torch in. It has a longggh explanation about design beauty blablabla and then at the end, China. Lololol.

Who tells you Apple has no viruses, even hackers don't want to develop viruses for Apple since it is so isolated. Lolol

Let’s wait for Apple 15 release. Those made in China LV bags must be fake. Nobody seriously pay huge sum for made in China bags. that’s why brand is important. France has a higher price tag than China. For instance A birkin bag costs $10,000 minimum. A let’s say Huawei bag would cost $100. People buy status symbol. China has a very negative touch that lowers the selling price. Blame yourself.

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