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Prof. Dr. S. Balachandra Rao, M.Sc. Ph.D. (Mathematics)

Modern scientists use certain number of corrections to predict positions of the planets, but the Astronomical text such as Surya Siddhanta and Siddhanta Siromani give formulas which utilize much lesser number of corrections but give more accurate positions.

Marquis Pierre Simon de Laplace ( 1749-1827) French mathematician, philosopher, and astronomer, a contemporary of Napoleon. Laplace is best known for his nebular hypothesis of the origin of the solar system

"Nevertheless the ancient reputation of the Indians does not permit us to doubt that they have always cultivated astronomy, and the remarkable exactness of the mean motions which they assign to the Sun and the Moon necessarily required very ancient observation." .

General Joseph Davey Cunningham (1812-1851) author.

"Mathematical science was so perfect and astronomical observations so complete that the paths of the sun and the moon were accurately measured.

Guy Sorman, visiting scholar at Hoover Institution at Stanford and the leader of new liberalism in France:

“Temporal notions in Europe were overturned by an India rooted in eternity. The Bible had been the yardstick for measuring time, but the infinitely vast time cycles of India suggested that the world was much older than anything the Bible spoke of. It seem as if the Indian mind was better prepared for the astrophysics."

Sylvain Bailly 18th century French astronomer and politician member of the French Academy and the Academy of Sciences

"The motion of the stars calculated by the Hindus before some 4500 years vary not even a single minute from the tables of Cassine and Meyer. The Indian tables give the same annual variation of the moon as the discovered by Tycho Brahe - a variation unknown to the school of Alexandria and also to the Arabs who followed the calculations of the school...

"The Hindu systems of astronomy are by far the oldest and that from which the Egyptians, Greek, Romans and - even the Jews derived their knowledge from."

Carl Sagan- the distinguished Cornell University astronomer and Pulitzer Prize-winning author.

Here is a great world culture which has always talked about billions of years.


“Wonderful aspect of Hindu cosmology which first of all gives a time-scale for the Earth and the universe -- a time-scale which is consonant with that of modern scientific cosmology. We know that the Earth is about 4.6 billion years old, and the cosmos,or at least its present incarnation, is something like 10 or 20 billion years old. The Hindu tradition has a day and night of Brahma in this range, somewhere in the region of 8.4 billion years.”

“Finally, the many billion year time-scale of Hindu cosmology is not the entire history of the universe, but just the day and night of Brahma, and there is the idea of an infinite cycle of births and deaths and an infinite number of universes, each with its own gods.”

“It is the only religion in which the time scales correspond, no doubt, by accident, to those of modern scientific cosmology. Its cycles run from our ordinary day and night to a day and night of Brahma, 8.64 billion years long. Longer than the age of the Earth or the Sun and about half the time since the Big Bang. And there are much longer time scales still."

“Either CS [coordinate system] could be used with equal justification. The two sentences: “the sun is at rest and the Earth moves,” or “the sun moves and the Earth is at rest,” would simply mean two different conventions concerning two different CS [coordinate systems].”
—Albert Einstein

Mountstuart Elphinstone (1779 - 1859) wrote:


"Proofs of very extraordinary proficiency in their astronomical writings are found.“

The Hindu astronomy not only establishes the high proficiency of our ancestors in this department of knowledge and exacts admiration and applause: it does something more. It proves the great antiquity of the Sanskrit literature and the high literary culture of the Hindus.

"Monsieur Bailly, the celebrated author of the History of Astronomy, inferred from certain astronomical tables of the Hindus, not only advanced progress of the science, but a date so ancient as to be entirely inconsistent with the chronology of the

Hebrew scriptures. His argument was labored with the utmost diligence and was received with unbounded applause. All concurred at the time with the wonderful learning, wonderful civilization and wonderful institutions of the Hindus!"

Giovanni Domenico Cassini ( 1625–1712) was an Italian-French astronomer, engineer, and astrologer. Cassini, Bailly, Le Gentil and Playfair maintain, "that there are Hindu observations extant which must have been made more than three thousand years before Christ, and which evince even then a very high degree of astronomical science."

Count Magnus Fredrik Ferdinand Bjornstjerna (1779-1847)

"According to the astronomical calculations of the Hindus, the present period of the world, Kaliyuga commenced 3,102 years before the birth of Christ, on the 20th of February, at 2 hours 27 minutes and 30 seconds, the time being thus calculated of the planets that took place, and their tables show this conjunction. Bailly states that Jupiter and Mercury were then in the same degree of the ecliptic, Mars at a distance of only eight, and Saturn of seven degrees; whence it follows, that at the point of time given by the Brahmins as the commencement of Kaliyug, the four planets above-mentioned must have been successively concealed by the rays of the sun (first Saturn, then Mars, afterwards Jupiter and lastly Mercury)....The calculation of the Brahmins is so exactly confirmed by or own astronomical tables, that nothing but an actual observation could have given so correspondent a result."

"He (Bailly) further informs us that Laubere, who was sent by Louis XIV as ambassador to the King of Siam, brought home, in the year 1687, astronomical tables of solar eclipses and that other similar tables were sent to Euorpe by Patouillet (a missionary in the Carnatic - India), and by Gentil, which later were obtained from the Brahmins in Tirvalore, and that they all perfectly agree in their calcuations although received from different persons, at different times, and from places in India remote from each other.
The motion calculated by the Brahmins during the long space of 4,385 years (the period eclipsed between these calculations and Bailly's), varies not a single minute from the tables of Cassini and Meyer; and as the tables brought to Europe by Laubere in 1687, under Louis XIV, are older than those of Cassini and Meyer, the accordance between them must be the result of mutual and exact astronomical observations." Then again, "Indian tables give the same annual variation of the moon as that discovered by Tycho Brahe, a variation unknown to the school of Alexandria, and also to the Arabs, who followed the calculation of this school.“

"These facts," says the erudite Count, "sufficiently show the great antiquity and distinguished station of astronomical science among the Hindus of past ages." The Count then asks "if it be true that the Hindus more than 3,000 BC., according to Bailly's calculation, had attained so high a degree of astronomical and geometrical learning, how many centuries earlier must the commencement of their culture have been, since the human mind advances only step by step on the path of science.“

Professor Arthur Holmes (1895-1965) geologist, professor at the University of Durham.

"Long before it became a scientific aspiration to estimate the age of the earth, many elaborate systems of the world chronology had been devised by the sages of antiquity. The most remarkable of these occult time-scales is that of the ancient Hindus, whose astonishing concept of the Earth's duration has been traced back to Manusmriti, a sacred book.“

"Interestingly, modern science has estimated that the age of the earth is about 4 billion years. Scholars feel it is uncanny that the Vedic Aryans could have conceived of such a vast span of time over 3,500 years ago that would be similar to the same figure estimated by science today."

Louis Francois Jacolliot (1837-1890), who worked in French India as a government official and President of the Court in Chandranagar. Translator of numerous Vedic hymns, the Manusmriti, and the Tamil work, Kural.

"The Hindu revelation, which proclaims the slow and gradual formation of worlds, is of all revelations the only one whose ideas are in complete harmony with modern science. "

" Besides the discoverers of geometry and algebra, the constructors of human speech, the parents of philosophy, the primal expounders of religion, the adepts in psychological and physical science, how even the greatest of our biological and theologians seem dwarfed!

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All these are lies.

Civilization was brought to the Hindus first by the Arabic Muslim Invaders and then by the European Christian invaders. :coffee:

Hindoos had Sati, Caste and No Toilets. The "seculars" in India will confirm this. Wait for them.
 
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If we even teach half of these to kids, Congress and lefties will stand up against Hindutva agenda.. Ours is a country, where our own politicians hate the ancient past.. They must learn a lot from indonesians and egyptians..

Indeed we need to learn from those 2
 
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Not proud of our ancestors but humbled by their simple ways. Humility, my dear frnds, OP should only make way for Humility. Students/Scholars have no room for pride.
 
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All Indians regardless of their class, caste, creed, etc should learn these facts about their ancestors. Its something to be proud about. It will help them. Give them the strength they will need when the venture out into the world, onl to be told by some Non Indians that they are inferior or some other BS garbage.

Our ppl grown up loosing their identity and their glorious past. From that, they will earn, learn and strive to push boundaries once again. This is how you motivate all of India.
 
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Pathani Samanta a scientist from rural village in odisha, India in 1800 ce predicted the the distance of sun and moon by naked eye and some bamboo sticks.

Pathani Samanta - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"Sidhanta darpan" a book written by him is attached which also got UNESCO award.
 

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Pathani Samanta a scientist from rural village in odisha, India in 1800 ce predicted the the distance of sun and moon by naked eye and some bamboo sticks.

Pathani Samanta - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



This is pissing me off! I feel like we are collecting and cataloguing all this great information for our future generations. The apathy of the previous govt and that policial family dynasty is really f-king us up.
 
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Like all cultures, Indian culture is also rich and has contributed to the world and at the same time it has some serious lacunae. While we must be proud of our heritage, we should be careful not to start feeling proud of the negatives of our culture. I am saying this because the fantatics try to enforce all the negatives by highlighting the positives.
 
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Certainly a reason to be proud of!

.. However, that does not justify the recent BS comments like ancient "India" had planes or nukes.. or people believing that astrology is a science :hitwall: because it uses mathematics. Yet there is no evidence that there is a link between our lives and the constellations we see.

What needs to be done is to improve the quality of our higher education, which is still abysmal... we need to teach students to innovate and think critically and for themselves!

We need to create an environment where Indian students can implement their ideas in India, and not abroad.....
 
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@Koovie 12 years back one incident attracted me to astrology (an old astrologer baffled me), since than I have read many books, seen many palms and horoscopes (I don't earn through it), I can tell you that it works. I can tell a few things about anyone's nature, parents, wife, children, family life, character, career, concerns, spending habit, etc. even with my limited knowledge. Even you can do it if you study it well with an open mind, and co-relate it with seeing lots of palms and horoscopes, with practice you will get better, and then nobody has to convince you about whether it works or not. We just don't know how it works.
 
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All these are lies.

Civilization was brought to the Hindus first by the Arabic Muslim Invaders and then by the European Christian invaders. :coffee:

Hindoos had Sati, Caste and No Toilets. The "seculars" in India will confirm this. Wait for them.

Why do you wait for their opinion and nod?

Why do you even accord them so much importance?

That's the fundamental problem with you Hindus. Seriously. There was no division of Dharmic culture in ancient days and knowledge, discussions, debates and innovation was spread across our country.

We may have been different kingdoms but culturally we were one despite being diverse.

Here's the thing; stop waiting for these dolts to understand logic and join you.

We are all with you. Just start working on it already!
 
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This is pissing me off! I feel like we are collecting and cataloguing all this great information for our future generations. The apathy of the previous govt and that policial family dynasty is really f-king us up.
being an odia i know about pathani samanta. he was a genius in his time, but there was a serious fault also . he used to believe earth centric model. otherwise a brilliant brain. just a little info, not to belittle his contribution. in Odisha we use his methods to calculate time and date of holy functions.
 
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being an odia i know about pathani samanta. he was a genius in his time, but there was a serious fault also . he used to believe earth centric model. otherwise a brilliant brain. just a little info, not to belittle his contribution. in Odisha we use his methods to calculate time and date of holy functions.


Its really interesting. Thanks for the info.
 
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@Koovie 12 years back one incident attracted me to astrology (an old astrologer baffled me), since than I have read many books, seen many palms and horoscopes (I don't earn through it), I can tell you that it works. I can tell a few things about anyone's nature, parents, wife, children, family life, character, career, concerns, spending habit, etc. even with my limited knowledge. Even you can do it if you study it well with an open mind, and co-relate it with seeing lots of palms and horoscopes, with practice you will get better, and then nobody has to convince you about whether it works or not. We just don't know how it works.


Thats cute.. like those people who are constantly blabbering about wonders and messages sent from heaven.

If you can show up with proof that there is an interaction between astronomic events, star constellations or whatever and the personal life of humans you shall become world famous... because you have proven that astrology works.

Otherwise... just meh :rolleyes:
 
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