Vietnam patrol ship provoke Indonesia Patrol Corvette in Indonesia EEZ

[Ultima Thule]

You mean respected xxx nobody knows defense site is more credible than US and Vietnam military that fought the war?
But let’s move on the topic bro!

then give me link of US govt site that tell they had been loss 11000 jets in Vietnam war give me those links and also give me Vietnam govt links on that matter @Viet

 

[Viet]

What is it with you and playing the innocent card?

First this, and then acting as if WE were the one rammed your ship.

Ok let’s see. your president says the region is disputed Eez waters. your vice president says the same. so your female cigarette smoking fishery minister. Nevertheless you resort to arrest, to guns, to regular warships. Interesting.

 

[GraveDigger388]

Ok let’s see. your president says the region is disputed Eez waters. your vice president says the same. so your female cigarette smoking fishery minister. Nevertheless you resort to arrest, to guns, to regular warships. Interesting.

Then as I said; Take it to the court.

Better yet; Do the same to our tresspassing fishermen.

And then you'll see the difference between us and you. You won't find us interfering with your arrest. If anything, our LEADER would be the one doing the objections. Govt 2 govt.

 

[Viet]

Indonesian food industries imported raw materiel and used that for processed foods and beverages, btw most industrial countries imported foods from agrarian countries

Being agra country is bad? Actually the opposite is true.
The Dutch exports agra goods worth $100 billion a year. The US try to sell agra goods to Vietnam because they can’t sell to China. Both are not poor agr countries.

 

[Nike]

Being agra country is bad? Actually the opposite is true.
The Dutch exports agra goods worth $100 billion a year. The US try to sell agra goods to Vietnam because they can’t sell to China. Both are not poor agr countries.

Lol, both have industrialized agra sector with low percentage of population working in agri sector. Both more known as industrialized and trading countries, btw US export large foods to Indonesia more than to Vietnam

 

[HellFireIndo]

Being agra country is bad? Actually the opposite is true.
The Dutch exports agra goods worth $100 billion a year. The US try to sell agra goods to Vietnam because they can’t sell to China. Both are not poor agr countries.

Being an "agrarian" country itself is not "bad". But overestimating Vietnam's position as an rice exporter, as an "agrarian" country and even undermining other's country's agricultural sector as being "lesser" or "not self-sufficient", based only from your own nonsense assumption, is definitely bad.

You are inconsistent, on time you call Indonesia "agrarian" in negative context, as an alternative word for "rural" and "un-industrialized", but the fact is that Indonesia's manufacturing sector alone is twice the size of Vietnam's GDP. But when countered, you said that "agrarian" means "advanced in agricultural industry and trade like the Netherlands and the US", what a f*cking bullshit.

Bitch's a liar, that's for sure, even after the damned embarrassing face-saving effort by complementing the Chinese, Pakistanis and Singaporeans have failed and even backfired, Viet now strikes on being an inconsistent liar by saying "oh yeah, "agrarian" as i said does not have negative context", where previously this bitch called Indonesia as "agrarian" as a low-key insult, to call it "un-industrialized", "underdeveloped", something along that line. When the fact is Indonesia manufacturing sector alone is several time larger and more sophisticated than Vietnam's manufacturing sector, even with such fact, Indonesia is still the number 3 largest rice producer in the world, ranked above Vietnam, there's nothing in Vietnam that's more advanced than in Indonesia.

Eventually, you will end up crying and throwing childish tantrum like Viva_viet, or becomes disoriented and angry like the dim-witted cochine, it's just a matter of time until all the bullshits and myths that you said and will say, are debunked and you will have nothing more to say except crying out like what Viva_viet has done here.

 

[Brainsucker]

Being an "agrarian" country itself is not "bad". But overestimating Vietnam's position as an rice exporter, as an "agrarian" country and even undermining other's country's agricultural sector as being "lesser" or "not self-sufficient", based only from your own nonsense assumption, is definitely bad.

You are inconsistent, on time you call Indonesia "agrarian" in negative context, as an alternative word for "rural" and "un-industrialized", but the fact is that Indonesia's manufacturing sector alone is twice the size of Vietnam's GDP. But when countered, you said that "agrarian" means "advanced in agricultural industry and trade like the Netherlands and the US", what a f*cking bullshit.

Bitch's a liar, that's for sure, even after the damned embarrassing face-saving effort by complementing the Chinese, Pakistanis and Singaporeans have failed and even backfired, Viet now strikes on being an inconsistent liar by saying "oh yeah, "agrarian" as i said does not have negative context", where previously this bitch called Indonesia as "agrarian" as a low-key insult, to call it "un-industrialized", "underdeveloped", something along that line. When the fact is Indonesia manufacturing sector alone is several time larger and more sophisticated than Vietnam's manufacturing sector, even with such fact, Indonesia is still the number 3 largest rice producer in the world, ranked above Vietnam, there's nothing in Vietnam that's more advanced than in Indonesia.

Eventually, you will end up crying and throwing childish tantrum like Viva_viet, or becomes disoriented and angry like the dim-witted cochine, it's just a matter of time until all the bullshits and myths that you said and will say, are debunked and you will have nothing more to say except crying out like what Viva_viet has done here.

Wow, you're cruel, bro. They may cry because of you . Like an old video game that I played long time ago. Vietnam May Cry. Err... is it right?

 

[Nike]

Being an "agrarian" country itself is not "bad". But overestimating Vietnam's position as an rice exporter, as an "agrarian" country and even undermining other's country's agricultural sector as being "lesser" or "not self-sufficient", based only from your own nonsense assumption, is definitely bad.

You are inconsistent, on time you call Indonesia "agrarian" in negative context, as an alternative word for "rural" and "un-industrialized", but the fact is that Indonesia's manufacturing sector alone is twice the size of Vietnam's GDP. But when countered, you said that "agrarian" means "advanced in agricultural industry and trade like the Netherlands and the US", what a f*cking bullshit.

Bitch's a liar, that's for sure, even after the damned embarrassing face-saving effort by complementing the Chinese, Pakistanis and Singaporeans have failed and even backfired, Viet now strikes on being an inconsistent liar by saying "oh yeah, "agrarian" as i said does not have negative context", where previously this bitch called Indonesia as "agrarian" as a low-key insult, to call it "un-industrialized", "underdeveloped", something along that line. When the fact is Indonesia manufacturing sector alone is several time larger and more sophisticated than Vietnam's manufacturing sector, even with such fact, Indonesia is still the number 3 largest rice producer in the world, ranked above Vietnam, there's nothing in Vietnam that's more advanced than in Indonesia.

Eventually, you will end up crying and throwing childish tantrum like Viva_viet, or becomes disoriented and angry like the dim-witted cochine, it's just a matter of time until all the bullshits and myths that you said and will say, are debunked and you will have nothing more to say except crying out like what Viva_viet has done here.

our manufacturing industry is the most largest in ASEAN, most happened in chemical, pharma, automotive, electronic (home appliances), textile and shoes, furnitures and ship building. we got large array of industrial complexes. Java itself had lost most of arable lands, especially near Karawang, Cikampek and Bekasi area to industrial complexes now it seems happened again in area near Semarang and Kendal. Need times to adjust newly built Food Estates in Papua, South Sulawesi and Kalimantan as irigation channel and dams need times to be built so with immigration programme to manning those newly reclaimed farmland.

And to reach independent in Food security, Susi Pudjiastuti launched this brutal yet long campaign against ilegal fishing and thats policy causing havoc toward fish industries in Vietnam and Thailand (as both as the largest beneficaries toward our leniency in the past), i hope we maintain this policy as long as our country keep standing.

 

[striver44]

Vietnam has issued a diplomatic note opposing Indonesia’s use of force on Vietnamese fishing vessels last Saturday.
The Ministry of Foreign Affairs handed over the document to a representative from the Indonesian Embassy in Vietnam on Wednesday.

The document expresses Vietnam’s concerns over the incident on April 27 when Indonesia arrested a group of Vietnamese fishermen operating within Vietnam's waters, in an area where Vietnam and Indonesia are delimiting their exclusive economic zones (EEZs), 5.5 nautical miles north of the 2003 continental shelf delimitation line.

A Vietnamese fishing boat with 14 fishermen on board were arrested and towed away at high speed by Indonesian ship number 381, causing the Vietnamese boat to sink.

A Vietnam Fisheries Resources Surveillance's vessel discovered the incident while performing its duties in the area, rescued two of the fishermen and demanded that the Indonesian ship leave Vietnamese waters.

However, the remaining 12 fishermen were taken into Indonesian waters.

Vietnam’s ministry now insists that what Indonesia had done "seriously violated Vietnam's sovereignty and jurisdiction, and was contrary to international law, inconsistent with traditional friendship relations and the Vietnam - Indonesia strategic partnership, as well as the solidarity of ASEAN (Association of Southeast Asian Nations)."

The note requested Indonesia to strictly abide by the provisions of the 1982 United Nation’s Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), to which both countries are members, and to direct its maritime functional forces to stop and not repeat the inappropriate actions of April 27.

It also demanded that Indonesia immediately release the crew of the sunk vessel, treat them humanely and make adequate compensation for the Vietnamese fishing boat and for the fishermen.

This is the second time Vietnam made its demand.

So what?? We 'll keep destroying your fishing boats as long as it violate our eez. The navy did a great job.

I think indonesian AF should station its cn 235mpa aircraft in natuna as soon as possible.

 

[nufix]

So what?? We 'll keep destroying your fishing boats as long as it violate our eez. The navy did a great job.

I think indonesian AF should station its cn 235mpa aircraft in natuna as soon as possible.

TNI AL intensifies

 

[Viet]

our manufacturing industry is the most largest in ASEAN, most happened in chemical, pharma, automotive, electronic (home appliances), textile and shoes, furnitures and ship building. we got large array of industrial complexes. Java itself had lost most of arable lands, especially near Karawang, Cikampek and Bekasi area to industrial complexes now it seems happened again in area near Semarang and Kendal. Need times to adjust newly built Food Estates in Papua, South Sulawesi and Kalimantan as irigation channel and dams need times to be built so with immigration programme to manning those newly reclaimed farmland.

And to reach independent in Food security, Susi Pudjiastuti launched this brutal yet long campaign against ilegal fishing and thats policy causing havoc toward fish industries in Vietnam and Thailand (as both as the largest beneficaries toward our leniency in the past), i hope we maintain this policy as long as our country keep standing.

your "largest" manufacturing industry is unknown to the outside world. NOBODY except YOU know what products Indonesia produces! do you make anything domestic that is known outside Indo garden fence? do you have anything similar as us with carmaker as Vinfast

 

[Indos]

your "largest" manufacturing industry is unknown to the outside world. NOBODY except YOU know what products Indonesia produces! do you make anything domestic that is known outside Indo garden fence? do you have anything similar as us with carmaker as Vinfast

Indonesia manufacturing are mostly consumed inside the country but we do produce high tech product like plane and ships. https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2016/04/21/indonesia-one-of-the-worlds-top-10-manufacturers.html

This plane is 100 % designed by Indonesian. I heard Vinfast car is designed by Western company.

Later, inshaAllah

 

[HellFireIndo]

your "largest" manufacturing industry is unknown to the outside world. NOBODY except YOU know what products Indonesia produces! do you make anything domestic that is known outside Indo garden fence? do you have anything similar as us with carmaker as Vinfast

There maybe 2 to go of these so-called "Vietnamese" things that you would show to us to without a second thought, which then i would roast and debunk again. It's better for you to just give up your shitty attempts at showing "famous export Vietnamese products" that supposedly support your argument of "we have domestic products that are famous overseas like this one that unlike Indonesia's exports that i think is not as famous as this faux Vietnamese product, i want to show to the world of my ignorance and short-sightedness".

I told you, there's many Indonesian members here that knows exactly what are these "Vietnamese cars" really is, and i won't blow the truth on this one for now, if you just acknowledge how these photos of Vinfast tins are irrelevant in supporting your arguments, there's no need to embarrass yourself any further. Speaking of exports, but in the service sector, here is one Vietnamese thing that you should show to the world :

Anyway, in this province of 33 million, perhaps there's less than 1000 people that ever heard the word "Vinfast", the product is so irrelevant that it can't even get market anywhere.

 

[striver44]

your "largest" manufacturing industry is unknown to the outside world. NOBODY except YOU know what products Indonesia produces! do you make anything domestic that is known outside Indo garden fence? do you have anything similar as us with carmaker as Vinfast

If only viets know that vinfast lux is basically built around old and already discontinued bmw F15 chassis (now bmw uses G05 chassis) with pininfarina studio (italian) as the body designer.
The only thing vietnam here is basically the owner and some V words

My bet this car will not sell well, most vietnamese cant afford normal basic cars. Let alone cars with bmw chassis and pininfarina designed cars (albeit with vietnamese marque) lol. Good luck selling those viets.

Meanwhile indonesia is the region automotive manufacturer giant. Dont try to compete with us about cars,planes or even ships.

 

[Nike]

your "largest" manufacturing industry is unknown to the outside world. NOBODY except YOU know what products Indonesia produces! do you make anything domestic that is known outside Indo garden fence? do you have anything similar as us with carmaker as Vinfast

Lol, just how much vincar car had been exported and how much value in US dollar ?

I bet with my salary this month, monthly sales of this products globally can bought one vincar production center with much spares to change