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RoK police on a visit to VN

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The military chiefs of Vietnam and United States in the Philippines. Has Jim Mattis offered anything that Vietnam is so happy?

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New Kalashnikov made in Vietnam for the Marines

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New 7,62x54mm bullets made by z113 factory with more powerful kinetic energy

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One, Germany is a late starter in modernizing the economy but it surpassed all other within a short time.

Two, the Germans are rich. Really with people having big bucks. 10 Trillion USD. Ok the first half has all, while the other half nothing. Capitalism.

Third, if you think socialism is implemented in VN or CN or Venezuela then you haven’t known Germany yet. Here as a poor man you can get everything for free: from housing with central heating to healthcare to hospital visits to school to university. Yes the government is even generous by giving you extra cash every month.

In Vietnam you must pay for everything.

Wanting to enjoy socialism? Come to Germany!

Germany has the strongest economy in the Western Hemisphere. Waiting it to collapse can be frustrating. Very frustrating. The British, the French had hoped the Germans would never recover from the wars. All day dreamers.

We are again off topic.
10 Trillion USD Germany got come from US's mercy. Its just like South VN let US troops stationed in VN, then she also got Trillion USD. But everyone know what happened to her after US left.

US economy is going down due to over producing again , I think US now only strong enough to protect England, that why she (UK) insist on Brexit to get our of incoming mess in EU.

Just wait and see, EU will get in big mess again after Brexit (it also means that US will exit from EU,too). No daddy's protection, EU is just a group of chicken to Russian bear .
 
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10 Trillion USD Germany got come from US's mercy. Its just like South VN let US troops stationed in VN, then she also got Trillion USD. But everyone know what happened to her after US left.

US economy is going down due to over producing again , I think US now only strong enough to protect England, that why she (UK) insist on Brexit to get our of incoming mess in EU.

Just wait and see, EU will get in big mess again after Brexit (it also means that US will exit from EU,too). No daddy's protection, EU is just a group of chicken to Russian bear .
bro the mountain of money has been accumulated over the decades. VN needs to learn from Germany: a powerful military umbrella and a good environment for doing business. Prosperity will come as certainly as snow in the alpines in winter.

Actually the Germans will profit from Brexit. Jobs and money will leave the British island for Germany.

You will see the Germans will be the one that profits most from the brexit disaster, much similar to the case of Greek bankruptcy.

Ever asked why lots of Vietnamese try legal and illegal to immigrate en mass to Germany? Yes they do with a good reason.

I believe we are off topic.

Vietnam has placed an order for BRT-80 amphibious tanks, says Alexander Krasovitsky, the general director of the company, that manufactures the vehicle. No more details.

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bro the mountain of money has been accumulated over the decades. VN needs to learn from Germany: a powerful military umbrella and a good environment for doing business. Prosperity will come as certainly as snow in the alpines in winter.

Actually the Germans will profit from Brexit. Jobs and money will leave the British island for Germany.

You will see the Germans will be the one that profits most from the brexit disaster, much similar to the case of Greek bankruptcy.

Ever asked why lots of Vietnamese try legal and illegal to immigrate en mass to Germany? Yes they do with a good reason.

I believe we are off topic.

Vietnam has placed an order for BRT-80 amphibious tanks, says Alexander Krasovitsky, the general director of the company, that manufactures the vehicle. No more details.

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Russian BTR series doesnt have ramp door, thats not good for quick depart for the landing infantry units. On other hand BT and BMP tracked vehicles offered rear door capability. Though i believe, amphibious capability of Vietnam Marine is still in growing phase.
 
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Russian BTR series doesnt have ramp door, thats not good for quick depart for the landing infantry units. On other hand BT and BMP tracked vehicles offered rear door capability. Though i believe, amphibious capability of Vietnam Marine is still in growing phase.
Ok I posted the pictures of the article that reports the purchase. Pls don’t blame ha ha. As for the rest, if you study VN then you will know It isn’t a revolution but evolution process. Money plays the major role. Unless a war is imminent, VN military modernization develops step by step.

recent exercise of the Marines with the support of a naval task force

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Russian BTR series doesnt have ramp door, thats not good for quick depart for the landing infantry units. On other hand BT and BMP tracked vehicles offered rear door capability. Though i believe, amphibious capability of Vietnam Marine is still in growing phase.

This is what the article says, Google translated:

General Director of the factory - production "Defense Industry Group", Alexander Krasovitsky has said that Vietnam has sent orders for multi-purpose terrain vehicle GAZ-59037.
The information was provided by Alexander Krasovitsky in an interview with Sputnik yesterday, Thursday 26 October.

It is known that the ATV 59037 was a modified variant of the APC. The BTR-80 was serving in large numbers in the Russian Army as well as in many former Soviet republics.


Armored Multi-purpose GAZ-59037A

Is Vietnam ordering an amphibious vehicle designed on the basis of the BTR-80? Is there any prospect for this taxi fighter to be present at the S-shaped land strip in the not so distant future? Replacement of armored vehicles carrying the BTR-60PB army is becoming increasingly urgent, especially when both the Army and the Marines are invested to advance to modern.

In addition, Alexander Krasovitsky recommends that every year Russia exports several hundred BTR-82A (deep upgrade of the BTR-80), and this armored infantry carrier Considered as their business card in the international arms market.

However, it must be acknowledged that the BTR-82A still has some disadvantages that make it unlikely that Vietnam will be interested in it.


Armored vehicles BTR-82A

The "Taxi of the Field" BTR-82A was first introduced in 2009 and garnered positive reviews after its performance at the 15th Interpolitex Military Exhibition in Moscow in October 2011. .

The most notable change between the BTR-82A and the BTR-80 was the 14.5 mm KPVT heavy machine gun turret that had been replaced by an automatic turret, which mounted a 30 mm 2A72 gun It can deploy a variety of different types of ammunition to destroy all targets from the ground to the air, providing superior support firepower.

Unfortunately, the weapon is the only "revolution" on this APC, it still has the same major weaknesses as the thin armor, the old chassis for extremely limited mine defense. Doors for the soldiers are still located on the side, making them very vulnerable to enemy fire.


Russian armored troop carrier named Boomerang

Currently, Russia has launched more advanced APC series, Boomerang, which has completely overcome the old disadvantages on the BTR-82A, in addition to possessing superior strength by adding four more missiles. anti-tank AT-14 Kornet and modern optical shooting system, accompanied by comfortable comfort for combat teams.


Even if Vietnam can manage its financial resources and choose an APC that has proven its capabilities over a long period of time, many European-made field taxis, such as Patria AMV or Piranha-3C They are good candidates.

With the above situation, perhaps BTR-82A will not be able to soon follow GAZ-59037 on Vietnam.
 
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The Third Gepard Missile Frigates of the Vietnamese Navy has Arrived at Cam Ranh Port

28 October 2017



Rolldock Star carrying third Gepard missile frigate (photo : naval)

According to an updated Maritimeraffic.com website, the Rolldock Star carrying the 3rd Gepard missile frigates was returned to the Cam Ranh port on 27 October.

The Rolldock Star has now entered the Cam Ranh port as scheduled in preparation for the delivery of the 3rd Gepard missile frigates to the Vietnamese People's Navy.

Thus, the 44-day journey begins on 13 September in Novorossiysk of the Rolldock Star with the task of carrying the 3rd Gepard missile frigates of the Vietnamese People's Navy has come to an end.

The ship will soon be removed from the Rolldock Star and ready to join the navy fleet of the Vietnamese People's Navy.

In November, it is expected that the remaining Gepard missile defense vessel in Russia's second pair will be returned to Vietnam.
 
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CHINA-VIETNAM TIES OPINION
China and Vietnam: from confrontation to accommodation



By ALEXANDER CASELLA
OCTOBER 27, 2017 12:57 PM (UTC+8)


Chairman Mao Zedong once commented that China and Vietnam were as close as lips and teeth. While the description was consonant with the geographical proximity of the two countries, it did not dwell on the question: Who is the lips and who is the teeth?

We can presume, however, that there was no ambiguity in the chairman’s mind to the effect that while the lips cannot bite the teeth, the teeth can bite the lips. Likewise, the illustration of the proximity between the two countries carried an indirect warning: In a pinch, it is China’s teeth that will bite the lips rather than the opposite.

Of all the civilizations that developed over the centuries within China’s cultural orbit, none was as conditioned as Vietnam’s by its proximity to China. While Japan and Korea, like Vietnam, shared with China an adhesion to Mahayana Buddhism with a strong Confucian and Taoist input, used ideograms to write and ate with chopsticks, none shared an extensive and often undefined land border with the Middle Kingdom.

Viewed from a historical perspective, China’s “teeth” were not a theoretical proposition. This geographical proximity and a thousand years of Chinese rule from 111 BC to AD 938 left a mark on Vietnam, which permeated its institutions and society. Historians differ as to whether or not the end result was the emergence of another, smaller version of China.

But none will question the fact that Chinese influence notwithstanding, the Vietnamese developed and preserved a distinct personality and identity, albeit within China’s cultural sphere. Over the following centuries it became Vietnam’s policy to humor China, pander to it if necessary, avoid any overt provocation and basically keep it at arm’s length.

After the invasion of China by Japan, the creation of the Chinese republic and the colonization of Vietnam by France, political relations between China and the Vietnamese court in Hue slowly dissolved into non-existence.

It was only with the creation of the Chinese Communist Party in 1921 and of the Vietnamese Communist Party in 1930 that a semblance of relations emerged between the two countries. Operating under the umbrella of the Communist International and meeting either in Moscow or in the Communist-controlled areas of China, the leaderships of the two parties were in constant contact and, over the years, developed a strong common ideological basis. Thus with China in the throes of a civil war and Vietnam occupied by the French, the only two components of Chinese and Vietnamese society that were interacting were their respective Communist parties.

The relationship between the two parties took on a completely new dimension in 1950. In December 1946, the uncertain truce between the French forces in Vietnam and the communist Viet Minh broke down as the two opponents resorted to open warfare. In 1949, the Chinese Communists proclaimed the People’s Republic of China, and in the autumn of 1950 the Viet Minh defeated the French forces controlling the border areas between Vietnam and China.

The Viet Minh now had a secure rear base in China where it could train its troops in safety and through which it was to receive a massive amount of military aid. This enabled the Viet Minh to expand its areas of control within Vietnam, where by 1953 it had embarked on its first land-reform campaign.

Josef Stalin had encouraged the Vietnamese communists to pattern their land reform on the Chinese model. Ignoring the fact that land tenure in Vietnam differed from that in China, the Chinese cadres assigned to the Viet Minh to oversee the land reform ordered the arrest and sometimes executions of thousands of small farmers whose landholdings were insignificant.

Among those arrested was Nguyen Van Linh, who 33 years later was to become secretary general of the Communist Party of Vietnam and one of the moving forces in the Vietnamese reform movement. From jail Linh smuggled a report to Ho Chi Minh, who with the support of Vo Nguyen Giap, the army commander, called for an emergency plenary meeting of the Communist Party, which decided that China’s land-reform process was not to be a model for Vietnam.

It was to prove the first step in many for the Vietnamese Communist Party’s shift away from China’s ideological orbit.

The second step occurred in the spring of 1954 at the battle of Dien Bien Phu. Prior to that battle, the Chinese military mission attached to the Viet Minh had designed an attack plan based on China’s experience in Korea, which provided for a massed infantry attack supported by an artillery bombardment.

In January 1954, two days prior to the attack, General Giap scrapped the plan. Not only did he postpone the attack by two months, to a time when the monsoon would ground the French air force, but his plan also provided for artillery pieces firing individually in support of a network of trenches, which would smother the French position on the pattern of France’s own 18th-century siege tactics.

By 1954 the Vietnamese Communist Party, while outwardly maintaining cordial relations with its Chinese counterpart, had weaned itself from both the ideological and the military doctrines prevailing in Mao’s China.

The Chinese were incensed, but the strategy worked, and Dien Bien Phu became the first military campaign that saw the defeat of a Western army by a Third World insurgent force.

Thus by 1954 the Vietnamese Communist Party, while outwardly maintaining cordial relations with its Chinese counterpart, had weaned itself from both the ideological and the military doctrines prevailing in Mao’s China.

During the second Vietnam War, Sino-Vietnamese relations were in essence governed by geopolitical considerations. For Beijing the main concern, as in Korea, was to ensure that there be no hostile US presence on its border. Thus its support to Hanoi, both military and economic, sought to preserve the existence of North Vietnam as a buffer rather than to promote its conquest of the South.

The fall of Saigon on April 30, 1975, totally changed the context of the relationship. On May 1, Labor Day, South Vietnam’s new Communist rulers were thunderstruck when literally every building in Cholon, the Chinese suburb of Saigon, flew a Chinese flag. It was obviously not a spontaneous act but the result of a decision made in Beijing reaffirming China’s commitment to protecting its community in Vietnam.

For the Vietnamese Communists, it was an unacceptable proposition. They had embarked on a policy of “building socialism” in southern Vietnam, which provided for the nationalization of all significant economic enterprises. With the commercial establishment practically in the hands of the Chinese, “building socialism” put Vietnam on a collision course not only with its Chinese community but also with the Chinese state.

But the fate of the Chinese community was only one of the bones of contention between China and Vietnam. Over the years the Chinese had supported the emergence of a Cambodian communist movement that had seceded from the Vietnamese-inspired Indochinese communist movement. This group, the Khmer Rouge, was now ruling Cambodia and was violently anti-Vietnamese. Thus the regime in Hanoi suddenly found itself confronted by an aggressive Cambodia, a Chinese community it did not fully control, and a hostile China.

It was not a situation Hanoi could contend with alone, and by 1978 the regime, which over the years had navigated a careful course between Beijing and Moscow, had now thrown its lot in with the Soviet Union. By 1979 it had invaded Cambodia, fought a short border war with China and embarked on a policy of socio-ethnic cleansing by inducing hundreds of thousands of its people to flee by boat and seek refuge in neighboring countries of Southeast Asia and in China.

A debilitating occupation of Cambodia, a hostile China on its border, a high state of tension with the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN), and a collapsed domestic economy resulting from a blanket policy of collectivization was not a situation the regime in Hanoi felt particularly uncomfortable with. Over the decades, if not centuries, the Vietnamese had kept China at bay, defeated all their enemies, and manipulated all their friends. Confrontation was what they were used to. It was peace that they could not manage.

With China singled out as the enemy, and secure in the economic and military backing of the Soviet Union, Vietnam soldiered on. Then in December 1991 the Soviet Union imploded.

The collapse of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics had a traumatic effect on Hanoi. For decades Vietnam’s Communist leaders had seen themselves as the “vanguard of the world revolution in Southeast Asia”. Now there was no longer a world revolution. Not only were they ideological orphans but they had also embarked on a policy that, without outside help, was unsustainable.

During their wars against France and the US and their subsequent confrontation with China, Vietnam’s Communists had substantially relied on foreign aid, first from China and subsequently from the Soviet Union. The collapse of the USSR brought to an end Soviet aid. Now, for the first time, Vietnam had to become self–sufficient.

For the regime this was not a matter of choice but of survival. With economic development a priority, and collectivization a flagrant failure, the only option for the country was a step-by-step integration into the global market economy. This in turn could be achieved not only by a departure from the Marxist economic model but even more so by the promotion of a climate of stability. Thus for Vietnam’s Communists normalization with ASEAN and the US and de-escalating their confrontation with China became the priorities.

With no enemy of China to ally itself with, and having given up it hegemonic ambitions in Cambodia, Vietnam from Beijing’s perspective was thus downgraded to the rank of a smaller, albeit occasionally quarrelsome, neighbor to be watched but with which it could come to terms.

The net result was that the two countries embarked on a process of renewed dialogue at all levels. Party-to-party relations were resumed with the caveat that they were not based on a mutual ideological vision but rather on the principle that each Communist Party actually represented the state.

In parallel, a state-to-state dialogue led in December 2008 to the signing of a land-border demarcation agreement as well as an understanding regarding their maritime border at the mouth of the Gulf of Tonkin. Thus the only current outstanding dispute between China and Vietnam concerns their overlapping maritime claims in the South China Sea.

According to reliable sources it is this claim that precludes China from selling military equipment to Vietnam. However, the fact that Beijing in November last year signed a significant defense deal with Malaysia, which also has maritime claims in the South China Sea, is indicative of the complexity of the issue – a complexity that is reflected both in China increasingly affirming itself in the area and Washington’s policy of trying to contain Beijing.

Currently China is Vietnam’s No 2 trading partner after the United States and is the source of 29% of Vietnam’s imports and the destination of 10% of its exports. Meanwhile, the US is the destination of 21% of Vietnam’s exports and the source of 4.4% of its imports. In other words, Hanoi has succeeded in balancing its economic relations with both powers.

Politically, however, the Vietnamese have to contend with Washington’s efforts in trying to entice them to become a more active component of its policy of containing China. Thus the US has lifted restrictions on the sale of weapons to Vietnam. In August it transferred six coastal patrol boats to Vietnam, and a visit by a US aircraft carrier is scheduled for next year. That the ultimate aim of the US is to obtain some form of mooring rights, if not more, in Cam Ranh Bay is a given.

The challenge for Vietnam’s current leadership is to expand the country’s position in the global market economy without alienating its two main trading partners, which happen to be a current superpower and an aspiring one.

Within this perspective, China does not have any particular designs on Vietnam. Alternatively, however, were Vietnam to adopt a policy that would lead to a substantive strengthening of the US strategic position in the region, this might change. There is therefore a red line in its relations with the US that Vietnam cannot cross without provoking a reaction from China. The problem is that this red line is undefined is thus creating an area of uncertainty.
 
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Quite superficial view from an Westerner as usual, who does not have in-depth knowledge about things but prefer to say as if he know everything.

In addition, China is No.1 trade partner of Vietnam for long time, while the US never is. The author must know it, but shameless lies seems now common trait in both Indian and Westerners
 
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Vietnamese who were fathered by Japanese soldiers who remained in what is now Vietnam after World War II arrive at Tokyo's Haneda airport on Oct. 18. | KYODO

NATIONAL / HISTORY
Vietnamese offspring of Japanese WWII soldiers visit the land of their fathers
KYODO, JIJI

Thirteen Vietnamese fathered by Japanese soldiers who remained in what is now Vietnam after World War II visited Japan last week to meet one of the soldiers and visit the grave of another.

The Vietnamese, now in their 60s and 70s, are among the offspring of hundreds of Japanese soldiers who remained in French Indochina after the war, but later returned without their families.

Japan invaded French Indochina, part of which is now Vietnam, in 1940 during World War II. Of the Japanese troops deployed there, an estimated 600 remained after Japan’s surrender in August 1945 and joined the independence movement to fight against France’s attempt to re-establish its colonial rule in the First Indochina War between 1946 and 1954.

Many of them returned to Japan after the end of that conflict and their families faced discrimination and other hardships.

Emperor Akihito and Empress Michiko met with a widow and descendants of Japanese war veterans in Hanoi earlier this year as part of their efforts to soothe some of the wounds left over from the war.

The visiting Vietnamese expressed their delight at a news conference in Tokyo last week after setting foot in Japan.

They said their long-awaited dream of visiting Japan had come true.

For Phan Hong Chau, 67, this was his first visit to Japan. He said he felt he had “returned home” when he arrived at an airport in Japan. He added that he was very happy that his long-held dream had come true.

Hong Nhat Quang, 67, head of the group, said he would like to continue exchanges with Japanese relatives.

After the news conference, the group toured the Imperial Palace and the Imperial Household Agency in Tokyo.

Also while in Tokyo, they visited the grave of a soldier who fathered one of the Vietnamese. And on Monday, they met a former soldier in Osaka Prefecture who is the father of another one.
 
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This is what the article says, Google translated:

General Director of the factory - production "Defense Industry Group", Alexander Krasovitsky has said that Vietnam has sent orders for multi-purpose terrain vehicle GAZ-59037.
The information was provided by Alexander Krasovitsky in an interview with Sputnik yesterday, Thursday 26 October.

It is known that the ATV 59037 was a modified variant of the APC. The BTR-80 was serving in large numbers in the Russian Army as well as in many former Soviet republics.


Armored Multi-purpose GAZ-59037A

Is Vietnam ordering an amphibious vehicle designed on the basis of the BTR-80? Is there any prospect for this taxi fighter to be present at the S-shaped land strip in the not so distant future? Replacement of armored vehicles carrying the BTR-60PB army is becoming increasingly urgent, especially when both the Army and the Marines are invested to advance to modern.

In addition, Alexander Krasovitsky recommends that every year Russia exports several hundred BTR-82A (deep upgrade of the BTR-80), and this armored infantry carrier Considered as their business card in the international arms market.

However, it must be acknowledged that the BTR-82A still has some disadvantages that make it unlikely that Vietnam will be interested in it.


Armored vehicles BTR-82A

The "Taxi of the Field" BTR-82A was first introduced in 2009 and garnered positive reviews after its performance at the 15th Interpolitex Military Exhibition in Moscow in October 2011. .

The most notable change between the BTR-82A and the BTR-80 was the 14.5 mm KPVT heavy machine gun turret that had been replaced by an automatic turret, which mounted a 30 mm 2A72 gun It can deploy a variety of different types of ammunition to destroy all targets from the ground to the air, providing superior support firepower.

Unfortunately, the weapon is the only "revolution" on this APC, it still has the same major weaknesses as the thin armor, the old chassis for extremely limited mine defense. Doors for the soldiers are still located on the side, making them very vulnerable to enemy fire.


Russian armored troop carrier named Boomerang

Currently, Russia has launched more advanced APC series, Boomerang, which has completely overcome the old disadvantages on the BTR-82A, in addition to possessing superior strength by adding four more missiles. anti-tank AT-14 Kornet and modern optical shooting system, accompanied by comfortable comfort for combat teams.


Even if Vietnam can manage its financial resources and choose an APC that has proven its capabilities over a long period of time, many European-made field taxis, such as Patria AMV or Piranha-3C They are good candidates.

With the above situation, perhaps BTR-82A will not be able to soon follow GAZ-59037 on Vietnam.

Hmm Vietnam army GAZ vehicle is for SAR purpose

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New ground radar
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The stage is set for Japan led Tpp-11 at the upcoming APEC summit in Da Nang next month. Without the United States.
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According to latest stat, 160,000 Vietnamese ethnic are living and working in South Korea. Let’s hope no war breaks out, no Vietnamese needs to flee.
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Việt Nam will send the first female security officer to join peacekeeping activities in South Sudan, Ambassador Nguyễn Phương Nga, Head of Việt Nam’s Permanent Mission to the UN, said yesterday.– Photo tienphong.vn

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Vietnamese who were fathered by Japanese soldiers who remained in what is now Vietnam after World War II arrive at Tokyo's Haneda airport on Oct. 18. | KYODO

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