Vietnam Defence Forum

[Viet]

I don't think Vietnam should do that, We view Us as a counterpart, not our ally to against any nation. Hoping for Chinese's government doesn't become silly to force Vietnam on US's side. We want to make friends not want a war.

do you know why Vietnam under the later Le dynasty experienced the longest peace period in our history, more than 300 years? answer: because we had been able to maintain to strike a military balance to China. the classical game "balance of power".

without having a military edge over China, do you think the Chinese would let Vietnam in peace, letting us to develop our economy? I wish the Chinese are our friends, our good neighbour, but the reality speaks another language.

I see the time will come when we can´t alone maintain the edge, having a military deterrence, neither visible nor creditable. because the gap between Vietnam and China is huge. one should never mix up between braveness and stupidity. just now, China announces live-fire exercise in the Gulf of Tonkin. just again one of the many exercises this year. and more are coming. the question will come weather or not a policy change is required, and when. hopefully not too late. Going to war is always costly for us. the last thing on earth we want. so the challenge lies in the ability to keep a military deterrence, avoiding physical confrontation. Keep a policy that is not working will lead us to nowhere.

https://www.navytimes.com/articles/china-stages-live-firing-drills-in-tonkin-gulf-amid-tensions

 

[Carlosa]

I don't think Vietnam should do that, We view Us as a counterpart, not our ally to against any nation. Hoping for Chinese's government doesn't become silly to force Vietnam on US's side. We want to make friends not want a war.


Yup, i have many cute friends

Very wise position, I just hope our chinese friends will not push Vietnam too much, but I will not hold my breath.

 

[Silent Knight]

Another pair of Molniya missile boats (codename M5 and M6) is ready to be commissioned

 

[Carlosa]

@Viet etc

Its nice to have a girl in the thread, specially a nice girl with moderate positions.

What a difference with the other sis.........

Another pair of Molniya missile boats (codename M5 and M6) is ready to be commissioned

Bravo , that's the end of the program. Looking forward to a more powerful version.

 

[Viet]

@Viet etc

Its nice to have a girl in the thread, specially a nice girl with moderate positions.

What a difference with the other sis.........



Bravo , that's the end of the program. Looking forward to a more powerful version.

aha interesting. we have a girl here. @xiao qi I wonder if it means anything?

Another pair of Molniya missile boats (codename M5 and M6) is ready to be commissioned

nice. if I recalled you confirmed 4 more Molynia´s are ordered. any info when they will come and what cruise missiles? Kalibr or Yakhont?

 

[Farhan Bohra]

To be fair, other that sis Mado, we really get along well with the Indonesian people, we don't mess with them, they don't mess with us, when we go there or they come here is usually cordial, but there is always a black sheep that has to have that deep sense of cheap nationalism and the need to be competitive. Its really a shame.

Not much issues either with the other ASEAN countries, just a minot thing here and there, people are people after all, some have political agendas, some have grudges, but not bad overall.

Our real fights are with the chinese.

Again, thank you. You are the only moderator in this section that actually takes care of business.



Its actually about $50 million per satellite, there are many other unrelated things in that ODA package.

But I don't want you to feel left out man, feel free to tell GOI to give us the Agni 4 TOT, we'll take it.



No kidding, actually, I just discovered yesterday, after looking at her profile, that @xiao qi is actually a girl. I didn't know that. I'm sure she has many cute friends.

Lol, I am not feeling left out at all.

But $1.2 bn for X-Band SAR sat is really huge.

The TecSar that build by IAI, by Israeli Aerospace ,,,, is around $130 million.

The cost of C-Band RISAT-1 was around $60 million. I don't know how cost reaching $1.2 billion, one can buy a whole high tech destroyer in $1.2 bn.

About A4, no one transfer technologies of MRBM, especially of Re-entry vehicle. No one. Maybe of SRBM. But not of MRBM or ICBM.

 

[Carlosa]

Lol, I am not feeling left out at all.

But $1.2 bn for X-Band SAR sat is really huge.

The TecSar that build by IAI, Israeli Aerospace is around $130 million.

The cost of C-Band RISAT-1 was around $60 million. I don't know how cost reaching $1.2 billion, one can buy a whole high tech destroyer in $1.2 bn..

Like I said, the cost is about $50 million per satellite. The 1.2 billion is for a whole ODA package that includes building a port and other things, so the price is quite ok.

About A4, no one transfer technologies of MRBM, especially of Re-entry vehicle. No one. Maybe of SRBM. But not of MRBM or ICBM.

Ok, I'll settle for SRBM TOT. I was just joking.

 

[Silent Knight]

nice. if I recalled you confirmed 4 more Molynia´s are ordered. any info when they will come and what cruise missiles? Kalibr or Yakhont?

The missile has been chosen, but I will keep my mouth shut, otherwise the Department of Green Tea would be eager to have a chat with me

The only obstacle is funding which will be decided in a very short time.

 

[Farhan Bohra]

Ok, I'll settle for SRBM TOT. I was just joking.

Lol I was too.

For some gossip news of Xi Ping Pong.
http://www.financialexpress.com/ind...o-deploy-brahmos-missile-in-northeast/355042/

BTW, BrahMos Block 3 deployed in NE since 2013, I dont know why sudden outburst against BrahMos. I think Ping Pong also got a hint of BrahMos export to Vietnam.

 

[Carlosa]

Lol I was too.

For some gossip news of Xi Ping Pong.
http://www.financialexpress.com/ind...o-deploy-brahmos-missile-in-northeast/355042/

BTW, BrahMos Block 3 deployed in NE since 2013, I dont know why sudden outburst against BrahMos. I think Ping Pong also got a hint of BrahMos export to Vietnam.

Let Xi Ping Pong sweat. The Viet-India alliance will only grow stronger.

The missile has been chosen, but I will keep my mouth shut, otherwise the Department of Green Tea would be eager to have a chat with me

The only obstacle is funding which will be decided in a very short time.

Will those ships have a better air defense system?

 

[Silent Knight]

Will those ships have a better air defense system?

No, unlikely to be. It's considered to be an upgrade in offensive capability, other systems would remain the same.

 

[Carlosa]

No, unlikely to be. It's considered to be an upgrade in offensive capability, other systems would remain the same.

Ok, those ships are very vulnerable once detected.

No, unlikely to be. It's considered to be an upgrade in offensive capability, other systems would remain the same.

Any idea how many missiles will they carry?

 

[Silent Knight]

Ok, those ships are very vulnerable once detected.
Any idea how many missiles will they carry?

They're designed for hit-and-run tactic from stand-off range and don't operate independently at all.

Look at them as missile-carrying platforms, instead of individual combat ships, and you will see.

 

[BoQ77]

I believe Vietnam Navy doubled the range of their AShM, this applied to coastal defence as well

 

[Carlosa]

I believe Vietnam Navy doubled the range of their AShM, this applied to coastal defence as well

Now that Vietnam is making AShMs under license, it should not be too difficult to develop a version with much more range.