Vietnam Defence Forum

[waz]

Even people in Vietnam call each other as viet kong this viet kong that. What's wrong with that? Even American textbooks use the term viet kong.

Viet kong is banned term, please do not use it.

Dear posters please discuss defence e.g. new purchases and post media. This thread is not for debating.

 

[Silent Knight]

Well, for the lack of modern MBT, we surely compensate by lots of ATGM and RPG-29

Sure, no modern MBT can be a bad think in an offensive operation, but those anti-tank weapon can and will be use effectively and devastatingly during urban defensive combat.

And for the sake of pictures and videos.

 

[Viet]

Where to get the funds for new ships?

The army has transferred 21 ha land to the Civil Airport authority, enabling Tân Sơn Nhất airport to expand from the current capacity of 25 millions passengers a year to 40 millions. I would expect the airport pays a respectable sum as compensation

 

[Viet]

Arming the Rival's Enemy: Why Modi’s Visit to Vietnam Might Irk China
© AFP 2016/ JUSTIN TALLIS
Asia & Pacific
09.08.2016

Modi’s visit to Vietnam will be the first bilateral visit to the country by an Indian Prime Minister since 2001.

New Delhi (Sputnik) — Prime Minister Narendra Modi's visit to Vietnam, the first by an Indian head of government in the last 15 years, is being seen as India's attempt to counter China's influence in South East Asia. In contrast to former Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee's visit to the country in 2001, this visit will primarily focus on defense export and maritime partnership, sources said.

It is expected that India will offer a range of military equipment to Vietnam including the BrahMos missile and Varunastra anti-submarine torpedo. Vietnam had earlier expressed interest in the naval version of the BrahMos. While, India expects to open the window for the sale of the first homegrown heavyweight anti-submarine torpedo Varunastra. India had earlier announced a credit line of USD100 million during President Pranab Mukherjee's visit to Vietnam for procurement of off-shore patrol boats.

Experts see this visit as a counterstroke to China's policy of arming India's rival Pakistan for decades. Bharat Karnad, former member of India's National Security Council and security analyst, told Sputnik, "India should not only equip Vietnam with the Brahmos supersonic cruise missile but also transfer to Hanoi the 700 km Agni-1 medium-range ballistic missile; but suitably disguised as falling within the MTCR-mandated 300 km range restrictions. China has already done its worst. It is time for India to reciprocate amply in equal measure."

The roadmap for the upcoming high level visit was prepared by both countries during 8th Foreign Office Consultations and Strategic Dialogue meeting held in New Delhi on August 2, 2016. According to India's Ministry of External Affairs, "At the 8th Foreign Office Consultations meeting the two sides held deliberations on an entire gamut of bilateral relations, including the forthcoming high level visits. During the Strategic Dialogue meeting, both sides discussed ruling of United Nations' tribunal ruling on South China Sea."

Karnad says, "The tragedy is that the Indian government has taken so long to realize the strategic value of responding to China in kind as a tit-for-tat measure against its nuclear missile arming Pakistan. I have long argued that if India lacks the stomach for a fight with China, as seems to be the case, then India's national interest is best served by arming to the hilt Vietnam, the only country that despite comprehensive disparity with China, has repeatedly shown the guts and the gumption to take on the Chinese military."

Meawnwhile, India's space agency ISRO is already working towards the establishment of a Satellite Tracking & Data Reception Station and Data Processing Facility in Vietnam for ASEAN member countries. This station will cover the entire region of ASEAN including the South China Sea. During Modi's visit, it is also expected that both countries will agree to upgrade all the military equipment like the T-54, T-55 and helicopters.

 

[Nike]

From when bilateral exercises become doctrine and war-fighting exercises?


Please give a link, I want to see when the last time Indonesia done a Division level exercise, leave alone theater level which involve a whole corp.



But Vietnam already bought hunter-killer T-90 MS.


My Army? What interest Indian Army have in Thailand?

BTW, how they steamroll Indian Army, by invading Burma. Are you crazy? Or dont know geography of earth?

theater level? corps ? we done it since long combining naval and air force elements along with dozen thousands of marine corps, the ones i dont see to have the capability is the Vn army itself

 

[xiao qi]

theater level? corps ? we done it since long combining naval and air force elements along with dozen thousands of marine corps, the ones i dont see to have the capability is the Vn army itself

pro, i must say that: one thousand drill exercises don't confirm for the capability of one army, many things isn't express based on "exercise". The real war is different . Example, When they attend an exercise , they know they can't die, it makes you don't know your soldiers is brave or not. Your tactics on an exercise, uh the commander uses based on "fake enemy thought". In the real war, your commander can't know it. Of course, i don't say : The drilling exercise is useless. But comparison two army nation based on that, it seems "ridiculous". Your army looks modern and profession. i admire that!

 

[Nike]

pro, i must say that: one thousand drill exercises don't confirm for the capability of one army, many things isn't express based on "exercise". The real war is different . Example, When they attend an exercise , they know they can't die, it makes you don't know your soldiers is brave or not. Your tactics on an exercise, uh the commander uses based on "fake enemy thought". In the real war, your commander can't know it. Of course, i don't say : The drilling exercise is useless. But comparison two army nation based on that, it seems "ridiculous". Your army looks modern and profession. i admire

i dont intend to ridicule anybody here specially Vn, my country had a high regard and placing Vn as one of the most important partner in the region. Since Ali Alatas and Adam Malik era, Indonesia want to build strategic partnership with Vietnam who had been known as Indonesia natural partner and choice to limiting the influences of certain Country up north of the block.

Your country maybe a commies but at least they are not Maoist, and mostly driven by Nationalist virtue not the ideology ones and to ensure there is no clash between China and Indonesia, a strong and cooperate Vietnam is needed.

My comments seem harsh but mostly derived by simple hard facts

 

[xiao qi]

i dont intend to ridicule anybody here specially Vn, my country had a high regard and placing Vn as one of the most important partner in the region. Since Ali Alatas and Adam Malik era, Indonesia want to build strategic partnership with Vietnam who had been known as Indonesia natural partner and choice to limiting the influences of certain Country up north of the block.

Your country maybe a commies but at least they are not Maoist, and mostly driven by Nationalist virtue not the ideology ones and to ensure there is no clash between China and Indonesia, a strong and cooperate Vietnam is needed.

My comments seem harsh but mostly derived by simple hard facts

It is your opinion, I appreciated it, also don't feel uncomfortable for that

 

[BoQ77]

i dont intend to ridicule anybody here specially Vn, my country had a high regard and placing Vn as one of the most important partner in the region. Since Ali Alatas and Adam Malik era, Indonesia want to build strategic partnership with Vietnam who had been known as Indonesia natural partner and choice to limiting the influences of certain Country up north of the block.

Your country maybe a commies but at least they are not Maoist, and mostly driven by Nationalist virtue not the ideology ones and to ensure there is no clash between China and Indonesia, a strong and cooperate Vietnam is needed.

My comments seem harsh but mostly derived by simple hard facts

I love you @madokafc posts.
But I must admit that it's difficult to measure other military without the thorough study and military knowledge basis.
The Indonesia is essential element for security of the region. Vietnam follows you.

So our relation is cooperative not opposive.

 

[Carlosa]

iMy comments seem harsh but mostly derived by simple hard facts

Your comments are far from hard facts. You ignore plenty of hard facts. Saying that Thailand has a better army is already far from the hard facts (They don't even have 1 single antiaircraft missile, they still use guns only), but to say that VN has not better than Cambodia is a new low for you.

i dont intend to ridicule anybody here specially Vn, my country had a high regard and placing Vn as one of the most important partner in the region. Since Ali Alatas and Adam Malik era, Indonesia want to build strategic partnership with Vietnam who had been known as Indonesia natural partner and choice to limiting the influences of certain Country up north of the block.

This is nice for a change and it would be nicer if you were to actually follow that.

 

[xiao qi]

Your comments are far from hard facts. You ignore plenty of hard facts. Saying that Thailand has a better army is already far from the hard facts (They don't even have 1 single antiaircraft missile, they still use guns only), but to say that VN has not better than Cambodia is a new low for you.



This is nice for a change and it would be nicer if you were to actually follow that.

i saw some Thai comments about their DTI

Is it better than Scud? In near future, im inspecting Vietnamese in Cambodia. Especially when the election is coming , Hunsen will be ousted, Hope two nations will resolve common issues as a peaceful way, Vietnamese lives when they haven't legal documentation

 

[Carlosa]

i saw some Thai comments about their DTI

Is it better than Scud? In near future, im inspecting Vietnamese in Cambodia. Especially when the election is coming , Hunsen will be ousted, Hope two nations will resolve common issues as a peaceful way, Vietnamese lives when they haven't legal documentation

That's not a ballistic missile, its a 302 mm MLRS system with terminal GPS guidance. Range is just 70-150km. Its more like the EXTRA but just for fixed targets.
There is very little information as of now, its just becoming operational.

In near future, im inspecting Vietnamese in Cambodia. Especially when the election is coming , Hunsen will be ousted, Hope two nations will resolve common issues as a peaceful way, Vietnamese lives when they haven't legal documentation

If Hun Sen goes and Sam Rainsy comes in, that's very bad news for Vietnam.

 

[Viet]

i dont intend to ridicule anybody here specially Vn, my country had a high regard and placing Vn as one of the most important partner in the region. Since Ali Alatas and Adam Malik era, Indonesia want to build strategic partnership with Vietnam who had been known as Indonesia natural partner and choice to limiting the influences of certain Country up north of the block.

Your country maybe a commies but at least they are not Maoist, and mostly driven by Nationalist virtue not the ideology ones and to ensure there is no clash between China and Indonesia, a strong and cooperate Vietnam is needed.

My comments seem harsh but mostly derived by simple hard facts

ach come on. more simple hard hards. I expect you soon compare Viet navy to that of Laos

 

[xiao qi]

That's not a ballistic missile, its a 302 mm MLRS system with terminal GPS guidance. Range is just 70-150km. Its more like the EXTRA but just for fixed targets.
There is very little information as of now, its just becoming operational.



If Hun Sen goes and Sam Rainsy comes in, that's very bad news for Vietnam.

Ok, i have one mistake when to compare it , @Carlosa The DTI-1 missiles used by Thailand are made by China and they have a striking distance range of 180 km. more one interesting information, Rainsy's mother is Vietnamese.

 

[Carlosa]

Ok, i have one mistake when to compare it , @Carlosa The DTI-1 missiles used by Thailand are made by China and they have a striking distance range of 180 km.

Oh made by China? Interesting, they make it look like is made in Thailand. Are you sure?

more one interesting information, Rainsy's mother is Vietnamese.

Interesting, but he hates Vietnamese for some reason.