Vietnam Defence Forum

[Carlosa]

Most of Vietnamese newspaper still refer to the Prithvi and not Agni or others.

I don't think that Vietnam would buy Indian ballistic missiles. A deal with the Russian (Iskander-E) or Israeli (LORA) is more realistic.

Don't forget that Russia recently announced that Iskander will not be exported.
I think LORA is very good and its nice to have 4 missiles per vehicle. Nice punch.

 

[Farhan Bohra]

Most of Vietnamese newspaper still refer to the Prithvi and not Agni or others.

I don't think that Vietnam would buy Indian ballistic missiles. A deal with the Russian (Iskander-E) or Israeli (LORA) is more realistic.

Prithvi is retired. And of no use in modern world. Only IAF still using them otherwise it retired by SFC, Indian Army and Indian Navy.

The only realistic option as SRBM is Prahaar, & A4 as MRBM. Also NLOS-BSM as Shaurya and BrahMos.

 

[Viet]

I think it makes sense to deploy a Yakhont battery to a large island like Con Dao that is already 185 km from the coast. A radius of 300 km range from Con Dao almost reaches the Spratlys. That would be an effective way to extend the reach of the Yakhont batteries in the mainland.

yes that will be a credible threat to any surface warships operating around the Spratlys if we place Yakhont to Con Dao. Having said the deployment of EXTRA to the Spratlys is just the beginning.

Hey there is a news for the Gepard. the sea trail of the 3rd Figrate seems to be complete. the ship is seen on a transporter dock at the Volga sea. I guess the ship will arrive Vietnam as scheduled, so at the end of August.

 

[Silent Knight]

Prithvi is retired. And of no use in modern world. Only IAF still using them otherwise it retired by SFC, Indian Army and Indian Navy.

The only realistic option as SRBM is Prahaar, & A4 as MRBM. Also NLOS-BSM as Shaurya and BrahMos.

Yes. But to be realistic, I think the deal would only cover BrahMos missile systems, as we can use them to replace the aging Redut-M systems.

 

[Viet]

Yes. But to be realistic, I think the deal would only cover BrahMos missile systems, as we can use them to replace the aging Redut-M systems.

Are there any more details on the expected Brahmos deal, for example, what version? Air, sea, land or all of them? And what platform to fire the missile if sea based?

Or only replacement for redut missile system in the first stage?

 

[Silent Knight]

Are there any more details on the expected Brahmos deal, for example, what version? Air, sea, land or all of them? And what platform to fire the missile if sea based?

Or only replacement for redut missile system in the first stage?

Most likely to be land-based systems to replace the Redut-M (P-35B "Shaddock" missiles).

The Air Force prefers lighter and smaller missiles like Kh-31AD/PD and Kh-59MK/2, while the surface ships might be equipped with Kalibr and Yakhont missiles.

 

[Viet]

Most likely to be land-based systems to replace the Redut-M (P-35B "Shaddock" missiles).

The Air Force prefers lighter and smaller missiles like Kh-31AD/PD and Kh-59MK/2, while the surface ships might be equipped with Kalibr and Yakhont missiles.

Sounds great to me. I would guess the next generation of Gepard would carry Kalibr. However I wonder a bit about Yakhont on ships. We don't possess any warship yet, that can carry Yakhont, or do I miss something?

 

[Carlosa]

Sounds great to me. I would guess the next generation of Gepard would carry Kalibr. However I wonder a bit about Yakhont on ships. We don't possess any warship yet, that can carry Yakhont, or do I miss something?

The new Gepards (third batch) could carry Kalibr or Yakhont or even both at the same time since both missiles use the same UKSK VLS system.

 

[Silent Knight]

Sounds great to me. I would guess the next generation of Gepard would carry Kalibr. However I wonder a bit about Yakhont on ships. We don't possess any warship yet, that can carry Yakhont, or do I miss something?

Not at the moment, but the plan to build such ships has been finalized and is waiting for funds.

 

[Viet]

Not at the moment, but the plan to build such ships has been finalized and is waiting for funds.

Aha interesting. Can you reveal more about the ship; tonnage, propulsion, weapon/radar systems and cost?

The new Gepards (third batch) could carry Kalibr or Yakhont or even both at the same time since both missiles use the same UKSK VLS system.

I believe the Gepard must be modified and enlarged to carry Kalibr and Yakhont. I would like to see if the ship carry at least 16 missiles.

 

[Carlosa]

Aha interesting. Can you reveal more about the ship; tonnage, propulsion, weapon/radar systems and cost?


I believe the Gepard must be modified and enlarged to carry Kalibr and Yakhont. I would like to see if the ship carry at least 16 missiles.

No need to enlarge it. There is a version that has the UKSK VLS launcher where the Palma is located now, it carries 8 missiles, no enough space for 16 unless the ship gets enlarged.

 

[Viet]

No need to enlarge it. There is a version that has the UKSK VLS launcher where the Palma is located now, it carries 8 missiles, no enough space for 16 unless the ship gets enlarged.

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The ship would be seriously weak with 8 missiles considering it must fight against surface warships and aircraft. I think we should keep the Palma and enlarge the gepard to accommodate VLS with 16 missiles.

 

[Carlosa]

The ship would be seriously weak with 8 missiles considering it must fight against surface warships and aircraft. I think we should keep the Palma and enlarge the gepard to accommodate VLS with 16 missiles.

It is still seriously weak if you consider that the whole air defence is just the 2 Palmas; that's why I don't like the Gepard design.

 

[Viet]

It is still seriously weak if you consider that the whole air defence is just the 2 Palmas; that's why I don't like the Gepard design.

We need a new ship class. Let see what silent knight can tell us about the new ship. I hope some sort of 4,000 ton light destroyer with credible air defense against aerial threats, VLS missiles against ships and land targets. In short we should have ships that are capable to fight against Chinese destroyers.

 

[Nike]

Ms. mado will be more depressed if she knows Indonesia Leopard 2/A4 tank has no chance in a direct encounter with T-90MS. while the Russian tank would blow up the Leo after piercing through its armor like a hot sharp knife through butter, the Leo could only scratch and damage the T90´s armor a bit

Only the modernized model Leopard 2/A7 with new longer cannon, new armor piercing shells, can take on T-90. and Germany as the backbone of the NATO, the frontrunner with the strongest land army has the task to stop a potential russian invasion, currently has 22 Leopard 2/A7. the rest is Leopard 2 in A5 and A6 series. Amazing.

http://www.welt.de/print/wams/article140089405/Panzer-ohne-Power.html

@Carlosa


I believe the picture shows Russia famous elite tank division, having the glorious task to defend Moscow

the real facts is Indonesian Leopard is real meanwhile Viet T90 is nowhere but gossips as it is now