Vietnam Defence Forum

[sincity]

Its not so simple, first they have to prepare to move and prepare all their equipment to move, that already takes a few days. Moving the men is meaningless without moving their equipment and that part is not so simple as you think. Its very clear that you have no idea of the logistical effort involved.



We are not talking civilians here, we are talking combat troops with all their heavy equipment and supplies, can't do in 2 days, period![/quote



China army already station close to border with Vietnam, most of equipment can be move in the same way they move their troop, they move their millions army within China not away from China.

 

[C130]

I stated that the military power is backed by the economic power, while you and NiceGuy started to derail the topic by making fun at China's living standards.

So next time stop derailing when you are running out of arguments.

Vietnam's economy is so puny, she cannot afford to make her own R&D, while stop foreign weapons are expensive.

With a such little budget, you will easily run out of money.

you know by your standards you could apply the Vietnam/China thing to Pakistan/India, but do you think fellow Pakistan members care about how much bigger India economy is?? are they going to except defeat and become a dog??? just cause Indian economy is bigger and has a larger military??

come on now.

 

[sincity]

you know by your standards you could apply the Vietnam/China thing to Pakistan/India, but do you think fellow Pakistan members care about how much bigger India economy is?? and are going to except defeat and become a dog???

India economy isn't much bigger than Pakistan, your comparison is moot.

 

[C130]

India economy isn't much bigger than Pakistan, your comparison is moot.

Indian economy isn't much bigger than Pakistan

India-2 trillion
Pakistan-240 billion

and the gap will widen exponentially in the next 20 years

obviously you didn't get my point.

 

[Nike]

India economy isn't much bigger than Pakistan, your comparison is moot.

 

[sicsheep]

Indian economy isn't much bigger than Pakistan

India-2 trillion
Pakistan-240 billion

and the gap will widen exponentially in the next 20 years

obviously you didn't get my point.

Pakistan is nuclear power, any conflict could escalate into nuclear war, is Vietnam ?

 

[sincity]

In compare to the India population, India as poor as Pakistan

Indian economy isn't much bigger than Pakistan

India-2 trillion
Pakistan-240 billion

and the gap will widen exponentially in the next 20 years

obviously you didn't get my point.

India over 1 billions in population, their GDP is bigger than Pakistan because the size of their population and not because India is richer.

 

[C130]

Pakistan is nuclear power, any conflict could escalate into nuclear war, is Vietnam ?

has that ever stopped the two from warring against one another
does it matter Vietnam doesn't have nukes??? is China going to nuke Vietnam or any country that doesn't bow down to them??

point is when has being economically/militarily surperior ever stopped the inferior from fighting back??? who doesn't love underdogs.

 

[sincity]

has that ever stopped the two from warring against one another
does it matter Vietnam doesn't have nukes??? is China going to nuke Vietnam or any country that doesn't bow down to them??

point is when has being economically/militarily surperior ever stopped the inferior from fighting back??? who doesn't love underdogs.

You mean American should love Taliban because they are underdog fight against the US superpower?

 

[Carlosa]

China move their troop within China, how it's possible for them to move millions troops in 2 days? Cargo plane, bus, civilian plane, buses, transport trucks? Aren't these transport system couldn't move millions troop in 1 days?

Its not so simple, first they have to prepare to move and prepare all their equipment to move, that already takes longer than a day. Moving the men is meaningless without moving their equipment and that part is not so simple as you think. Its very clear that you are talking just from your own thinking, you have no

has that ever stopped the two from warring against one another
does it matter Vietnam doesn't have nukes??? is China going to nuke Vietnam or any country that doesn't bow down to them??

point is when has being economically/militarily surperior ever stopped the inferior from fighting back??? who doesn't love underdogs.

Talking to these people is like talking to a wall. Basic reasoning and common sense are not part of their attributes.

 

[sicsheep]

has that ever stopped the two from warring against one another
does it matter Vietnam doesn't have nukes??? is China going to nuke Vietnam or any country that doesn't bow down to them??

point is when has being economically/militarily surperior ever stopped the inferior from fighting back??? who doesn't love underdogs.

Nukes are a force multiplier and a deterrent to protect oneself against invasion , escalation of conflict or overwhelming retaliation, which Vietnam does not have.

If we are USA, you cant even call your self Mexico. you will live in our shadows forever, just like in the past 2000 years.
so yeah, it'd be like saying half of Mexico City wants a war with USA. you get the picture?

USA GDP 2013:
16.8 Trillion

China GDP 2013
9.24 Trillion

Mexico GDP,
1.28 Trillion

Vietnam GDP 2013
171.4 Billion

 

[Nike]

In compare to the India population, India as poor as Pakistan





India over 1 billions in population, their GDP is bigger than Pakistan because the size of their population and not because India is richer.

clearly you said this thing

India economy isn't much bigger than Pakistan, your comparison is moot.

clearly you said India economy isn't much bigger than Pakistan, not their income per-capita

 

[C130]

Nukes are a force multiplier and a deterrent to protect oneself against invasion , escalation of conflict or overwhelming retaliation, which Vietnam does not have.

If we are USA, you cant even call your self Mexico. you will live in our shadows forever, just like in the past 2000 years.
so yeah, it'd be like saying half of Mexico City wants a war with USA. you get the picture?

USA GDP 2013:
16.8 Trillion

China GDP 2013
9.24 Trillion

Mexico GDP,
1.28 Trillion

Vietnam GDP 2013
171.4 Billion

doesn't matter.
we have good relations with our neigbhors Mexico/Canada. can't say the same for China.

guerrilla and asymmetrical warfare mate, it kinda takes the fight out of any force multipliers.

China is still untested.

 

[sincity]

Its not so simple, first they have to prepare to move and prepare all their equipment to move, that already takes longer than a day. Moving the men is meaningless without moving their equipment and that part is not so simple as you think. Its very clear that you are talking just from your own thinking, you have no


Talking to these people is like talking to a wall. Basic reasoning and common sense are not part of their attributes.

When China intend to invade Vietnam, you think they don't plan ahead and slowly moving their heavy equipment close to the border within China territory in month ahead to prepare for the assault?

clearly you said this thing



clearly you said India economy isn't much bigger than Pakistan, not their income per-capita

Income per capita define how large or small 1 nation economy, with India population over 1 billions India economy isn't much bigger than Pakistan to compare the size of Pakistan population, both nations still very poor.

 

[sicsheep]

doesn't matter.
we have good relations with our neigbhors Mexico/Canada. can't say the same for China.

guerrilla and asymmetrical warfare mate, it kinda takes the fight out of any force multipliers.

China is still untested.

Lol haha haha good relations? US Mexico boarding is 100 times more intense than China Vietnam boarders counting SC,

Have you been watching the news lately?

guerrilla and asymmetrical only works if we want to occupy the land, we can destroy every major military installation of VN without even crossing the boarder. We will see how guerrilla fight off drones and IRBM and cruise missiles.