Vietnam Defence Forum

[Viet]

It better to see ASEAN countries could joint operate in regional security group for defending ourselves. there would be a force with about 30 submarines, hundreds of surface combatants, 500+ modern aircrafts, dozen of military bases for common usage.

Unrealistic as the 10 countries have too different interests. I see little chance of realisation. Even the 10 armies combined will have massive problems in fighting against Chinese aggressions, unless they all come under our command. Most importantly is the bloc doesn´t possess nuclear weapons as ultimate deterrence.

We shall negotiate with America and Japan with the goal of a military alliance. I am not too sure about Russia.

 

[AViet]

@ViXueng, here is the full article. I enlarge the font of the parts with fighter jets Typhoon and Gripen.

He said, "The Vietnamese are serious customers," whose history of resistance against both the U.S. and China in the 1960s and 1970s still looms large in the national consciousness. "Vietnam can never defeat China," Mr. Huxley continued, "but they can offer bloody resistance to China."

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Another stupid so-called “Western expert” as usual. Vietnam defeated China many times. According to “Viet Nam Su Luoc” by Tran Trong Kim (a great historian and once Prime Minister of the puppet pro-Japan government in 1945), Vietnam was stronger than China militarily in the Song – Ly dynasties period. At that time, China army was even organized following Dai Viet model. When Nung Tri Cao (or Nong Zhigao) revolted, Chinese emperor (Tống Nhân Tông - Song Renzong) was going to call Dai Viet army in to China to help to quell him, if one of his advisor not advised him to stop. During this era, Dai Viet army under Ly Thuong Kiet attacked Ung Chau (modern Nanning city in Guangxi province) and other cities in Guangdong province and killed at least 48,000 people in Ung Chau

 

[ViXuyen]

but neither Typhoon nor Gripen are designed to carry nuclear weapons.

if Vietnam wants nuclear deterrence, we will need a fleet of F-35s, and of course the permission and supports of Uncle Sam. What about the costs?

well, Israel signed a deal in 2013 to acquire 19 Stealth bombers for $2.7b. So similar about the amount of our fleet of 6 Kilo subs.

Report: New F-35 Fighter Plane that Israel Purchased from U.S. Can Carry a Nuclear Bomb | Jewish & Israel News Algemeiner.com

F-35A is $200 million per copy including spares and weapons. Affordability won't be a problem for us by 2020 if the U.S is willing to sell. If the U.S is willing to sell nuke reactors to us, F-35A shouldn't be a problem.

 

[ViXuyen]

According to the latest news, a total of 6 will be built in Vietnam. I guess we cap this project at 8 in total

 

[BoQ77]

Turkey just decided to get 100 f35 with budget 16 bill. Having some loan Vietnam could get 36 F35 with 4-5 bill. while a contract to exxon mobil valued 20 bill .

 

[Viet]

air patrol over Spratlys

warships on standby

on patrol at sea

Marines in a free fall training

Coast guard on patrol

 

[Viet]

According to the latest news, a total of 6 will be built in Vietnam. I guess we cap this project at 8 in total

WSJ says it will be 10 Molyina´s in total.
besides, Russia media reveals Vietnam plans to build 10 more, so we will have 20 Molyina´s in total

Warum Vietnam mehr russische Waffen braucht - Nachrichten - Gesellschaft - Stimme Russlands
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304431104579551503192742852

the Chinese possess a fleet of 60 frigates and destroyers, as well as 35 attack submarines.
currently they outgun us. To catch up, we need a squadron of destroyers (6) and an additional squadron of submarines (6).

 

[Beidou2020]

We will always outgun you. Not just currently. If you think the situation is bad right now, just give us a few more years and see how much you are outgunned then.

 

[Viet]

We will always outgun you. Not just currently. If you think the situation is bad right now, just give us a few more years and see how much you are outgunned then.

that is the reason why Vietnam needs to join a military alliance soon.

 

[Beidou2020]

that is the reason why Vietnam needs to join a military alliance soon.

Selling yourself already?

 

[Viet]

Selling yourself already?

becoming a member of a military alliance is NOT selling oneself, you fool.

if peope follow your logic, then Germany sells itself to foreigners too as it is a member of NATO.

 

[Beidou2020]

becoming a member of a military alliance is NOT selling oneself, you fool.

if peope follow your logic, then Germany sells itself to foreigners too as it is a member of NATO.

Germany is a defeated nation under Yankee occupation. Yankees pretty much run German foreign policy.

 

[ViXuyen]

We will always outgun you. Not just currently. If you think the situation is bad right now, just give us a few more years and see how much you are outgunned then.

Are you getting nervous about our rearmament?

 

[ViXuyen]

WSJ says it will be 10 Molyina´s in total.
besides, Russia media reveals Vietnam plans to build 10 more, so we will have 20 Molyina´s in total

Warum Vietnam mehr russische Waffen braucht - Nachrichten - Gesellschaft - Stimme Russlands
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304431104579551503192742852

Nope, not 10 or 20 my friend; it's a total of 8 missile boats. This is confirm by the Vietnamese Navy
Bắn các tên lửa của Hải quân Việt Nam: Khẳng định năng lực làm chủ vũ khí trang bị kỹ thuật mới, hiện đại | Quốc phòng | Thanh Niên Online

The Molniya missile boat is the last missile boat that we will buy/build. We're moving on to the next project...Sigma corvette

 

[Viet]

Germany is a defeated nation under Yankee occupation. Yankees pretty much run German foreign policy.

NATO consists of 28 member countries. so all are slaves of the yankees?

you have humor.