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[cnleio]

This used for training purposes, these women are student from uni or college, I remember I was introduced how to use AK and CKC.

I see two female soldiers have the military rank on their collars, not like student military training ... u remember me first month in China university joined PLA miltiary training, that time each student has 5x bullets to shoot type56 semi-automatic rifle even not AK.

 

[xiao qi]

I see two female soldiers have the military rank on their collars, not like student military training ... u remember me first month in China university joined PLA miltiary training, that time each student has 5x bullets to shoot type56 semi-automatic rifle even not AK.

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Ok, my error, the girl in this pic likely are militia, i don't realize because some my friend use this uniform same as this pic, ex :

In Vietnam we only get two or three bullets for all training process and use real bullets under the supervision, we have two training process, in high school and in university and it is obligatory for all students.

 

[TaiShang]

Procuracies of Vietnam-China border provinces foster cooperation

The first meeting of the people’s procuracies of Vietnam-China border provinces opened on September 17 in Nanning, the capital city of China’s Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region.

The leaders of the Vietnamese and Chinese supreme procuracies exchange the signed MoU on strengthening direct cooperation between the border provinces’ procuracies

The event was attended by Peng Qinghua, Secretary of the Party Committee of the Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region and Chairman of the Standing Committee of the regional People’s Congress, along with officials from the People’s Procuracies of Hanoi, Ho Chi Minh City, Da Nang city and seven other Vietnamese provinces bordering China, namely Dien Bien, Lai Chau, Lao Cai, Ha Giang, Cao Bang, Lang Son, and Quang Ninh.

In his opening remarks, Procurator-General of the Supreme People’s Procuratorate of China Cao Jianming noted that China and Vietnam boast the long-standing friendship and relations between the two supreme people’s procuracies have been strengthened through mutual visits, exchanges and experience sharing.

In April, the heads of the two supreme people’s procuracies signed a comprehensive memorandum of understanding (MoU) on mutual judicial assistance in criminal matters, removing obstacles in the field and facilitating the implementation of the treaty on mutual judicial assistance in civil and criminal matters, inked between China and Vietnam in 1988, and the supreme procuracies’ cooperation agreement signed in 2012, he said.

The MoU was also a foundation to improve cooperation between the procuracies of Vietnamese and Chinese border provinces, Cao added.

Prosecutor-General of the Supreme People’s Procuracy of Vietnam Le Minh Tri said procuracy-to-procuracy relations have continually been growing and achieved numerous positive outcomes.

Under the direction of the supreme procuracies, local procuracies, especially those of the border provinces, have carried out a number of cooperation activities. Six provincial procuracies of Vietnam have signed MoUs with four Chinese counterparts, including the MoUs between Cao Bang, Lang Son and Quang Ninh provinces and Guangxi, between Lao Cai province and Yunnan, between HCM City and Guangdong, and between Da Nang city and Shandong.

The cooperation has also been expanded to the district level such as between the procuracy of Lao Cai province and the procuracy of Yunnan’s Hekou county, Tri said, adding that the two sides have organised mutual visits, shared experience, held regular meetings on cooperation in crime prevention and control, and cooperation in personnel training.

The Vietnamese official asked the two supreme people’s procuracies to well implement the signed agreements and continue instructing local procuracies to seriously and effectively carry out the MoU signed last April and the other on enhanced direct cooperation between procuracies of Vietnam-China border provinces inked at this meeting.

The local procuracies of the border provinces also need to step up direct cooperation in mutual judicial assistance in criminal matters, he added.

At the meeting, the supreme procuracies’ leaders signed a MoU on strengthening direct cooperation between the border provinces’ procuracies.

On September 16, Chinese Procurator-General Cao Jianming hosted a reception for the delegation of the Supreme People’s Procuracy of Vietnam.

http://english.vietnamnet.vn/fms/go...hina-border-provinces-foster-cooperation.html

 

[xiao qi]

Vietnam war series are being broadcast on American Television.
‘The Vietnam War’ Review: Ken Burns’ Exhaustive Conflict Biography Shows How to Learn from History’s Errors
Episode 1 : Déjà Vu (1858-1961) - Vietnamese
http://www.pbs.org/video/deja-vu-1858-1961-vietnamese-yhieqx/
Episode 2 : Riding the Tiger (1961-1963) - Vietnamese
http://www.pbs.org/video/the-river-styx-january-1964-december-1965-vietnamese-ee4jlh/
Episode 3: The River Styx (January 1964-December 1965) - Vietnamese
http://www.pbs.org/video/the-river-styx-january-1964-december-1965-vietnamese-ee4jlh/
Episode 4: Resolve (January 1966-June 1967) - Vietnamese
http://www.pbs.org/video/resolve-january-1966-june-1967-vietnamese-wg7u0k/
Episode 5: This Is What We Do (July 1967-December 1967) - Vietnamese
http://www.pbs.org/video/this-is-what-we-do-july-1967-december-1967-vietnamese-rvbgea/

 

[Viet]

A China type56 rifle serving in VN Army (only China AK has the special three edge needle) ... since 1960s China support Vietnam War, 50-year-age rifle ?

Judging the uniform the girls wear they are from local militias. The rifle is for training purposes probably is seldom used for shooting.

In China women can be in combat units.

VN Women in the army have long tradition going back for thousands of years. I don't think Chinese women have similar tradition.

 

[GS Zhou]

I don't think Chinese women have similar tradition.

Learn some history, that's no harmful to you.

Fu Hao (妇好, or Lady Hao), wife of King Wu Ding (武丁, whose reign lasted from approximately 1250 BC –1192 BC) of the Shang Dynasty. Fu Hao not only serves the roles as wife/mother/queen, she is also an important military general to her husband, and joined multiple battles against neighboring tribes.

For example, a relevant message found from the oracle bone scripts (甲骨文): 辛未卜，争贞：妇好其比沚瞂伐印方，王自东亳伐，陷于妇好立。

A rough translation is: "the King requested Fu Hao and Zhi Fa (沚瞂) to co-lead the army to attack Yin Tribe (印方); the King himself will lead another army to attack Yin from the east side, and push the enemy to the ambush location of Fu Hao's army". This is the first text record in the world military history that a female takes the leader role of an army; and also the first record of ambush.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
An introduction of Fu Hao and her tomb

Fu Hao is a very unusual heroine from Ancient Chinese history. She was one of the consorts of Wu Ding, the Shang King under whom Shang power reached its zenith. Fu Hao was a wife and mother, military leader, politician and shaman.

Fu Hao’s tomb was discovered in 1976 near Anyang. It is one of the best preserved tombs from that era. Archaeologists easily identified it as the tomb of Fu Hao. Her name had been long known from Shang period oracle texts and they found her name inscribed on the ritual bronzes on the tomb.

Most of the information we have about Fu Hao comes from oracle bone inscriptions. Many of the oracle bones show concerns for her well-being, for example childbirth and illness. Inscriptions on the oracle bones also show that Fu Hao was involved in two aspects of royal life that were normally not open to women. She participated in ritual ceremonies and military activities. The Shang King exercised ultimate control over ritual matters. However, Fu Hao obviously enjoyed the confidence of her husband as he repeatedly instructed her to conduct special rituals and offer sacrifices.

She led numerous military campaigns against the neighbouring Tu, Ba, Yin and Qiang tribes. One oracle bone, for example, asks whether Fu Hao should gather soldiers before an attack. On another it is reported that the king had assembled soldiers for Fu Hao’s campaign against the Tu tribe.

Fu Hao’s tomb has yielded over a hundred weapons. This is very unusual for a woman’s tomb, and shows her status as a military leader. In all there were around 2000 items buried with Fu Hao. Among these there are 468 bronzes, 750 jades, 560 of bone and over 110 of stone and semi-precious stone. Over six thousand cowrie shells were buried with her also – these would have served as currency in the Shang period.

 

[TaiShang]

Vietnam always treasures ties with China: Party chief

VNA MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 18, 2017 - 20:32:00

Party General Secretary Nguyen Phu Trong (R) and member of the Chinese Politburo Standing Committee Liu Yunshan (Source: VNA)

Hanoi (VNA) – Party General Secretary Nguyen Phu Trong has assured Liu Yunshan, Politburo Standing Committee member and Secretary of the Secretariat of the Communist Party of China (CPC) Central Committee that Vietnam attaches special importance to ties with China.

During a reception in Hanoi on September 18, the Party leader expressed his wish that the Vietnam-China relations will develop healthily and steadily for the interests of the two countries’ people as well as for peace and development in the region and the world.

Hailing positive development of ties between the two Parties and countries over the past years, he underscored the significance of the exchange of theory and experience in socio-economic development, Party building and personnel training.

He wished that the CPC led by Xi Jinping will successfully organise its 19th National Congress.

Liu, who is in Vietnam from September 18-19, expressed his belief that under the leadership of the Communist Party of Vietnam led by General Secretary Nguyen Phu Trong, the Vietnamese people will continue reaping greater successes in the national reform and socialism building.

He affirmed that the Party and State of China attach importance to developing the traditional friendship and cooperation between the two Parties and countries.

The guest wished to work closely with Vietnam to prepare for the Party General Secretary and President of China’s official visit to Vietnam and his attendance at the APEC Economic Leaders’ Meeting in November, the first foreign trip made by the Chinese leader following the 19th CPC National Congress.

The same day, Politburo member Tran Quoc Vuong, Secretary of the CPV Central Committee and head of the Committee’s Inspection Commission held talks with the Chinese guest.

The two sides extensively discussed measures to fully and effectively implement common perceptions and agreements between leaders of the two Parties and countries, contributing to strengthening political trust and friendship, improving the efficiency of practical collaboration in diverse areas, maintaining peace and security, and properly settling the East Sea issue.-VNA

 

[jhungary]

Ok, my error, the girl in this pic likely are militia, i don't realize because some my friend use this uniform same as this pic, ex :

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In Vietnam we only get two or three bullets for all training process and use real bullets under the supervision, we have two training process, in high school and in university and it is obligatory for all students.

College Firearm training for 2 or 3 rounds??.....What for??

We used to have ROTC open day where student are encourage to fire any sort of weapon your local ROTC have in your college. We have Squad Automatic Weapon, Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun and Heavy Machine Gun.....

What you can do with 2 or 3 rounds actually??

 

[Aqsuperman]

College Firearm training for 2 or 3 rounds??.....What for??

We used to have ROTC open day where student are encourage to fire any sort of weapon your local ROTC have in your college. We have Squad Automatic Weapon, Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun and Heavy Machine Gun.....

View attachment 426353

What you can do with 2 or 3 rounds actually??

The idea is to give the student a feel of firearms, not to turn them into sharpshooter. Some recoil kicks and smells of gunpowder will do for now. If you want to shoot more, go and apply to the Military Academy. However, with our conscription sevice, ALL males between 18 and 26 will have the chance to shoot as many rounds as they want in the Army

Gepard No. 486 spotted near Istanbul, Turkey. Look like the VPN haven't put a name on this guy yet.

 

[Viet]

Procuracies of Vietnam-China border provinces foster cooperation

The first meeting of the people’s procuracies of Vietnam-China border provinces opened on September 17 in Nanning, the capital city of China’s Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region.

The leaders of the Vietnamese and Chinese supreme procuracies exchange the signed MoU on strengthening direct cooperation between the border provinces’ procuracies

The event was attended by Peng Qinghua, Secretary of the Party Committee of the Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region and Chairman of the Standing Committee of the regional People’s Congress, along with officials from the People’s Procuracies of Hanoi, Ho Chi Minh City, Da Nang city and seven other Vietnamese provinces bordering China, namely Dien Bien, Lai Chau, Lao Cai, Ha Giang, Cao Bang, Lang Son, and Quang Ninh.

In his opening remarks, Procurator-General of the Supreme People’s Procuratorate of China Cao Jianming noted that China and Vietnam boast the long-standing friendship and relations between the two supreme people’s procuracies have been strengthened through mutual visits, exchanges and experience sharing.

In April, the heads of the two supreme people’s procuracies signed a comprehensive memorandum of understanding (MoU) on mutual judicial assistance in criminal matters, removing obstacles in the field and facilitating the implementation of the treaty on mutual judicial assistance in civil and criminal matters, inked between China and Vietnam in 1988, and the supreme procuracies’ cooperation agreement signed in 2012, he said.

The MoU was also a foundation to improve cooperation between the procuracies of Vietnamese and Chinese border provinces, Cao added.

Prosecutor-General of the Supreme People’s Procuracy of Vietnam Le Minh Tri said procuracy-to-procuracy relations have continually been growing and achieved numerous positive outcomes.

Under the direction of the supreme procuracies, local procuracies, especially those of the border provinces, have carried out a number of cooperation activities. Six provincial procuracies of Vietnam have signed MoUs with four Chinese counterparts, including the MoUs between Cao Bang, Lang Son and Quang Ninh provinces and Guangxi, between Lao Cai province and Yunnan, between HCM City and Guangdong, and between Da Nang city and Shandong.

The cooperation has also been expanded to the district level such as between the procuracy of Lao Cai province and the procuracy of Yunnan’s Hekou county, Tri said, adding that the two sides have organised mutual visits, shared experience, held regular meetings on cooperation in crime prevention and control, and cooperation in personnel training.

The Vietnamese official asked the two supreme people’s procuracies to well implement the signed agreements and continue instructing local procuracies to seriously and effectively carry out the MoU signed last April and the other on enhanced direct cooperation between procuracies of Vietnam-China border provinces inked at this meeting.

The local procuracies of the border provinces also need to step up direct cooperation in mutual judicial assistance in criminal matters, he added.

At the meeting, the supreme procuracies’ leaders signed a MoU on strengthening direct cooperation between the border provinces’ procuracies.

On September 16, Chinese Procurator-General Cao Jianming hosted a reception for the delegation of the Supreme People’s Procuracy of Vietnam.

http://english.vietnamnet.vn/fms/go...hina-border-provinces-foster-cooperation.html

We all know how of these agreements go. Null. Good for the trash bin. Much similar to the earth shaking agreement of cooperation between two countries Red Cross when VN communist chief meets CN communist chief not long ago. No offense.

Has anyone seen any encounter between the Red Crosses? If yes pls give me a call.

 

[DarkMoon198]

Learn some history, that's no harmful to you.

Fu Hao (妇好, or Lady Hao), wife of King Wu Ding (武丁, whose reign lasted from approximately 1250 BC –1192 BC) of the Shang Dynasty. Fu Hao not only serves the roles as wife/mother/queen, she is also an important military general to her husband, and joined multiple battles against neighboring tribes.

For example, a relevant message found from the oracle bone scripts (甲骨文): 辛未卜，争贞：妇好其比沚瞂伐印方，王自东亳伐，陷于妇好立。

A rough translation is: "the King requested Fu Hao and Zhi Fa (沚瞂) to co-lead the army to attack Yin Tribe (印方); the King himself will lead another army to attack Yin from the east side, and push the enemy to the ambush location of Fu Hao's army". This is the first text record in the world military history that a female takes the leader role of an army; and also the first record of ambush.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
An introduction of Fu Hao and her tomb

Fu Hao is a very unusual heroine from Ancient Chinese history. She was one of the consorts of Wu Ding, the Shang King under whom Shang power reached its zenith. Fu Hao was a wife and mother, military leader, politician and shaman.

Fu Hao’s tomb was discovered in 1976 near Anyang. It is one of the best preserved tombs from that era. Archaeologists easily identified it as the tomb of Fu Hao. Her name had been long known from Shang period oracle texts and they found her name inscribed on the ritual bronzes on the tomb.

Most of the information we have about Fu Hao comes from oracle bone inscriptions. Many of the oracle bones show concerns for her well-being, for example childbirth and illness. Inscriptions on the oracle bones also show that Fu Hao was involved in two aspects of royal life that were normally not open to women. She participated in ritual ceremonies and military activities. The Shang King exercised ultimate control over ritual matters. However, Fu Hao obviously enjoyed the confidence of her husband as he repeatedly instructed her to conduct special rituals and offer sacrifices.

She led numerous military campaigns against the neighbouring Tu, Ba, Yin and Qiang tribes. One oracle bone, for example, asks whether Fu Hao should gather soldiers before an attack. On another it is reported that the king had assembled soldiers for Fu Hao’s campaign against the Tu tribe.

Fu Hao’s tomb has yielded over a hundred weapons. This is very unusual for a woman’s tomb, and shows her status as a military leader. In all there were around 2000 items buried with Fu Hao. Among these there are 468 bronzes, 750 jades, 560 of bone and over 110 of stone and semi-precious stone. Over six thousand cowrie shells were buried with her also – these would have served as currency in the Shang period.

I think Viet also want to refer to it in the matrilineality aspect in the tradition sense as he mention above

 

[xiao qi]

College Firearm training for 2 or 3 rounds??.....What for??

We used to have ROTC open day where student are encourage to fire any sort of weapon your local ROTC have in your college. We have Squad Automatic Weapon, Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun and Heavy Machine Gun.....

View attachment 426353

What you can do with 2 or 3 rounds actually??

For training to become a true soldier, the important thing It is how to teach them to obey and do any request without asking under all conditions. In high school, we were taught how to listen not how to fire a weapon. And this thing was improved in university. It is this time, we actually know how to fire.

We all know how of these agreements go. Null. Good for the trash bin. Much similar to the earth shaking agreement of cooperation between two countries Red Cross when VN communist chief meets CN communist chief not long ago. No offense.

Has anyone seen any encounter between the Red Crosses? If yes pls give me a call.

@Viet, I think You should see China in another aspect. Well, in fact, we are getting benefit from the development of China, We hate the Chinese for the aggression in SCS. but I think It is acceptable same as a big boy, sometimes I chat with Vietnamese people online, a lot of them said, ok, ok, put Vietnam in China's location, the pinoy, malay...etc let's pray. Frankly, Vietnam already did well in the relation with China. As a small nation, we almost didn't lose territories to China. Bach Long Vy island now is a debate in China, why it was ceded to Vietnam.

Learn some history, that's no harmful to you.

Fu Hao (妇好, or Lady Hao), wife of King Wu Ding (武丁, whose reign lasted from approximately 1250 BC –1192 BC) of the Shang Dynasty. Fu Hao not only serves the roles as wife/mother/queen, she is also an important military general to her husband, and joined multiple battles against neighboring tribes.

For example, a relevant message found from the oracle bone scripts (甲骨文): 辛未卜，争贞：妇好其比沚瞂伐印方，王自东亳伐，陷于妇好立。

A rough translation is: "the King requested Fu Hao and Zhi Fa (沚瞂) to co-lead the army to attack Yin Tribe (印方); the King himself will lead another army to attack Yin from the east side, and push the enemy to the ambush location of Fu Hao's army". This is the first text record in the world military history that a female takes the leader role of an army; and also the first record of ambush.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
An introduction of Fu Hao and her tomb

Fu Hao is a very unusual heroine from Ancient Chinese history. She was one of the consorts of Wu Ding, the Shang King under whom Shang power reached its zenith. Fu Hao was a wife and mother, military leader, politician and shaman.

Fu Hao’s tomb was discovered in 1976 near Anyang. It is one of the best preserved tombs from that era. Archaeologists easily identified it as the tomb of Fu Hao. Her name had been long known from Shang period oracle texts and they found her name inscribed on the ritual bronzes on the tomb.

Most of the information we have about Fu Hao comes from oracle bone inscriptions. Many of the oracle bones show concerns for her well-being, for example childbirth and illness. Inscriptions on the oracle bones also show that Fu Hao was involved in two aspects of royal life that were normally not open to women. She participated in ritual ceremonies and military activities. The Shang King exercised ultimate control over ritual matters. However, Fu Hao obviously enjoyed the confidence of her husband as he repeatedly instructed her to conduct special rituals and offer sacrifices.

She led numerous military campaigns against the neighbouring Tu, Ba, Yin and Qiang tribes. One oracle bone, for example, asks whether Fu Hao should gather soldiers before an attack. On another it is reported that the king had assembled soldiers for Fu Hao’s campaign against the Tu tribe.

Fu Hao’s tomb has yielded over a hundred weapons. This is very unusual for a woman’s tomb, and shows her status as a military leader. In all there were around 2000 items buried with Fu Hao. Among these there are 468 bronzes, 750 jades, 560 of bone and over 110 of stone and semi-precious stone. Over six thousand cowrie shells were buried with her also – these would have served as currency in the Shang period.

I think you forget to mention to https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/花木兰 In Vietnam, we dont know Fu Hao, but we know this girl. In fact, Chinese and Vietnamese have many similarities about history and culture, but Vietnamese use women for real combat is more popular than because the Chinese population is big and they have enough men for combat don't need women for this dangerous mission, for Vietnam, It is different.

 

[TaiShang]

We all know how of these agreements go. Null. Good for the trash bin. Much similar to the earth shaking agreement of cooperation between two countries Red Cross when VN communist chief meets CN communist chief not long ago. No offense.

Has anyone seen any encounter between the Red Crosses? If yes pls give me a call.

Party to party communication has always a subtle meaning and value. But you do not expect a result in the line of a communication between a superior and an inferior -- such as US talking to Spain.

***

Government, parliament leaders welcome China’s senior Party official

VNA TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 19, 2017


Prime Minister Nguyen Xuan Phuc (R) welcomes Liu Yunshan, Secretary of the Secretariat of the Communist Party of China Central Committee, on September 19 (Photo: VNA)

Hanoi (VNA) – Prime Minister Nguyen Xuan Phuc and National Assembly (NA) Chairwoman Nguyen Thi Kim Ngan hailed the progress in Vietnam-China cooperation while receiving Liu Yunshan, Secretary of the Secretariat of the Communist Party of China Central Committee, on September 19.

Talking to Liu, who is also a member of China’s Politburo Standing Committee, PM Phuc reiterated that the Vietnamese Party, State and people always attach importance to the traditional friendship and comprehensive strategic cooperative partnership with China.

He applauded recent substantive cooperation, especially in investment, trade and tourism, along with China’s expansion of import of Vietnam’s goods and agricultural products.

He asked both sides to promote cooperation mechanisms’ effectiveness, improve substantive cooperation in all fields, work harder to tackle existing problems in bilateral ties, while accelerating and bettering the quality of joint projects. They also need to make concerted efforts to maintain peace and stability in the East Sea, comply with the common perceptions shared between leaders of the two Parties and countries, avoid any actions that may escalate tensions, and join ASEAN countries to substantively negotiate a code of conduct of parties in the East Sea (COC).

[Vietnam always treasures ties with China: Party chief]

Secretary Liu also stressed that the Chinese Party and State treasure relations with the Vietnamese counterparts and want to join Vietnam in lifting the comprehensive strategic cooperative partnership to a new height.

Bilateral cooperation, particularly in economy and trade, is flourishing, he said, noting that China supports the healthy and balanced development of economic and trade ties. It also hopes for the continued enhancement of connecting the two countries’ development strategies.


NA Chairwoman Nguyen Thi Kim Ngan receives Liu Yunshan, Secretary of the Secretariat of the Communist Party of China Central Committee, on September 19 (Photo: VNA)

At another meeting in Hanoi, NA Chairwoman Ngan congratulated China’s recent major achievements, valuing the encouraging outcomes in bilateral ties in various fields, including the relationship between the NA of Vietnam and the National People’s Congress of China.

She also asked both sides to fully and seriously implement and agreements and common perceptions reached by leaders of the two Parties and countries. They should also further consolidate the social foundation and friendship between the two peoples, thus developing Vietnam-China relations in a healthy, stable and long-term manner.

Meanwhile, the Chinese official expressed his hope for stronger political trust, sharing of strategies, cooperation and friendship exchanges, thereby fostering connections between the Parties and the countries. He also voiced his support for more exchanges between the two parliaments and peoples.-VNA

http://en.vietnamplus.vn/government...lcome-chinas-senior-party-official/118107.vnp

 

[jhungary]

The idea is to give the student a feel of firearms, not to turn them into sharpshooter. Some recoil kicks and smells of gunpowder will do for now. If you want to shoot more, go and apply to the Military Academy. However, with our conscription sevice, ALL males between 18 and 26 will have the chance to shoot as many rounds as they want in the Army

Probably gun culture is different.

In the US, we have shooting courses with everything, the youngest shooting and marksman course you can do is Boy/Girl Scout of America Marksmanship Training. which start from 13 to 14 years old (8th Grade above) and they will give you Pistol and Rifle training in any NRA range.

http://www.scouting.org/filestore/Outdoor Program/pdf/430-607(16)_WEB.pdf

Then there are regional organisation that offer weapon training such as FFA (Future Farmer of America) which hold sport shooting event, FFA is exclusively for High School student in the US (so 14-18)

But gun range in the US usually do not have an age limit on weapon handling so there are tons of kids holding a rifle or even machine gun photo surfaced on the internet.

Once you joined the Military, depends on your MOS, you will fire about 2000-10,000 rounds during the first 9- 13 weeks training, then afterward, you can shoot whenever or wherever you want. But you can only fire weapon that you are qualify to operate.

In all, training or not, bullet is about 20 cents per, so, you can basically shoot anywhere and everywhere as long as you can pay for it. Military Training or Not.

For training to become a true soldier, the important thing It is how to teach them to obey and do any request without asking under all conditions. In high school, we were taught how to listen not how to fire a weapon. And this thing was improved in university. It is this time, we actually know how to fire.

Well, I guess this is about different gun culture, but I still don't understand what is the reason or even what's the point for firing only 2 to 3 rounds in training. I mean yeah you will probably feel the kicks of the weapon, but you will most likely forgot about that when you are doing the real training...

Should have been at least a whole mag....

 

[Nike]

Probably gun culture is different.

In the US, we have shooting courses with everything, the youngest shooting and marksman course you can do is Boy/Girl Scout of America Marksmanship Training. which start from 13 to 14 years old (8th Grade above) and they will give you Pistol and Rifle training in any NRA range.

http://www.scouting.org/filestore/Outdoor Program/pdf/430-607(16)_WEB.pdf

Then there are regional organisation that offer weapon training such as FFA (Future Farmer of America) which hold sport shooting event, FFA is exclusively for High School student in the US (so 14-18)

But gun range in the US usually do not have an age limit on weapon handling so there are tons of kids holding a rifle or even machine gun photo surfaced on the internet.

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Once you joined the Military, depends on your MOS, you will fire about 2000-10,000 rounds during the first 9- 13 weeks training, then afterward, you can shoot whenever or wherever you want. But you can only fire weapon that you are qualify to operate.

In all, training or not, bullet is about 20 cents per, so, you can basically shoot anywhere and everywhere as long as you can pay for it. Military Training or Not.



Well, I guess this is about different gun culture, but I still don't understand what is the reason or even what's the point for firing only 2 to 3 rounds in training. I mean yeah you will probably feel the kicks of the weapon, but you will most likely forgot about that when you are doing the real training...

Should have been at least a whole mag....

Well i have the same thought, it useless to give some basic training just to be forgotten next year or years later, why bother in first place. Boyscout or Girl scout in my country regularly training with firearms, so they can be part of reserve unit in future or Emergency cases