Vietnam Defence Forum

[xiao qi]

Viet, no offense, I don't want to see dead Vietnamese, they are after all our cultural cousins. You have no chance to even face the Chinese Navy, just submit and cooperate.

Yup, we know we haven't chances to fight with Chinese. we also want to cooperate. it based on Chinese's government .An example when Polpot attacked our border we hope Chinese could stand to help his brother resolve like a big nation. But Chinese's government obviously refused, You want our stand with your side to counter with Russia ( who also helped our a lot in Vietnam war) we don't want it doesn't mean we scare

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Ha ha ha master and slave ...But the "slave" has one of the most modern and largest navies in the world. I don't think it is wrong to copy Japan in this matter.

Ah that is what you have in mind: offensive weapons. Then you shall have more respect for our warships. Because we have them. For example Kalibr cruise missiles.

Are you kidding me? The JMSDF is just a toothless tiger.

They don't have any offensive weapons to threaten the major powers.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

The picture should be updated. The number of vessels our coast guard possesses is now higher. For example we received new ships from our shipyards as well as 6 used ships from Japan. And soon more to come from Japan, America, India and from our shipyards. But true, No there is no shortcut. We are midst of the largest naval build-up since end of Vietnam war.


a new built replenisment vessel

Bro, I think it is ok for Vietnam to compare with other nations of your own league, you are doing a great job to modernize your military, but don't ever compare with China in a pissing contest. You will get despaired at the end.

Even China's commission rate of the large complex nuclear submarines is much faster than the rate that you received your Kilo subs from Russia.

Yup, we know we haven't chances to fight with Chinese. we also want to cooperate. it based on Chinese's government .An example when Polpot attacked our border we hope Chinese could stand to help his brother resolve like a big nation. But Chinese's government obviously refused, You want our stand with your side to counter with Russia ( who also helped our a lot in Vietnam war) we don't want it doesn't mean we scare

Why you have a Chinese name?

Are you a Vietnamese of Chinese descent or just a fan of the Chinese drama?

 

[BoQ77]

Viet, no offense, I don't want to see dead Vietnamese, they are after all our cultural cousins.You have no chance to even face the Chinese Navy, just submit and cooperate.

This is how our ancestors destroyed all of Southern Han big fleets and kill Southern Han emperor's son as fleet commander in year 938 with our light boats.

You could find out about these in National Museum of Vietnamese History, in Hanoi.

Remain of the trap

@alaungphaya

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

This is how our ancestors destroyed all of Southern Han big fleets and kill Southern Han emperor's son as fleet commander in year 938 with our light boats.

Remain of the trap

Kudos for your military achievement.

However, everybody should look forward, not backward. The solution for your country's future is not through war, but think how to set up a good relationship with your giant neighbor.

 

[BoQ77]

Kudos for your military achievement.

However, everybody should look forward, not backward. The solution for your country's future is not through war, but think how to set up a good relationship with your giant neighbor.

Well said. I just want to tell all, the giant navy isn't always the winner. Actually, many of our ancestors decisive victories are naval against Southern Han, Yuan Mongol, Siam, Champa ...

In the same place in 1288, 50,000 Vietnam Tran dynasty defeated totally Yuan Mongol fleet with 80,000 naval troops, sunk hundreds big warships , caught 400 big warships alive.
Casualty from Vietnam side 4000-5000, Yuan casualties are 80,000.

I'm more than happy to have a good relationship with China.

 

[frequency]

This is how our ancestors destroyed all of Southern Han big fleets and kill Southern Han emperor's son as fleet commander in year 938 with our light boats.

Remain of the trap

@alaungphaya

Very nice victory. The Chinese got totally molested here.

 

[xiao qi]

Why have you a Chinese name?
Are you a Vietnamese of Chinese descent or just a fan of the Chinese drama?

Vietnamese ( maybe are Chinese descent, if I translate my real name, it is Fan Wen Guang), I know and usually use Chinese to communicate with some Chinese friends on the qq (only reading and a bit writing ). Sometimes I read several Chinese novels.

Well said. I just want to tell all, the giant navy isn't always the winner. Actually, many of our ancestors decisive victories are naval against Southern Han, Yuan Mongol, Siam, Champa ...
I'm more than happy to have a good relationship with China.

it is our past, now nobody in Vietnam believe we can defeat Chinese, They are too big, if They only stand and do nothing, it is still very terrible haha

 

[BoQ77]

it is our past, now nobody in Vietnam believe we can defeat Chinese, They are too big, if They only stand and do nothing, it is still very terrible haha

Vietnam is always much smaller and backward compare to China, during entire of our history, not only at this moment, pal !!!

 

[xiao qi]

Vietnam is always much smaller and backward compare to China, during entire of our history, not only at this moment, pal !!!

it is cold weapon era, now if they want, they can ignore international law and nuke our, have an idiom " all of the tactics is meaningless when the enemy is too strong"

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

it is our past, now nobody in Vietnam believe we can defeat Chinese, They are too big, if They only stand and do nothing, it is still very terrible haha

The modern naval warfare is solely built on technology and money.

it is cold weapon era, now if they want, they can ignore international law and nuke our, have an idiom " all of the tactics is meaningless when the enemy is too strong"

China won't attack any nuclear free countries with the nuclear weapons.

Also, China doesn't have the intention to solve the SCS problems only with the war.

 

[BoQ77]

it is cold weapon era, now if they want, they can ignore international law and nuke our, have an idiom " all of the tactics is meaningless when the enemy is too strong"

your mindset leads any country to nuclear regime. FYI, if we want, Vietnam could have our own nuclear weapons. Vietnam has been running the US build reactors using HEU since 1962 and get support from Soviet Union ( technician and materials ) after 1975 until now.
The road with the site of reactor in Da Lat named "Nuclear power Road", the address of the reactor at No. 1 of Nuclear Power Road"
That's for public.
http://www.sortirdunucleaire.org/U-S-Vietnam-nuclear-talks-focus-on

The Wall Street Journal reports Aug 3 that US talks with Vietnam about its plans to build nuclear reactors has “unsettled“ key members of Congress. The Hindu, one of India’s largest newspapers, reports Aug 9 that China is annoyed by reports Vietnam might develop uranium enrichment capabilities with U.S. technology.
The WSJ report leads with news that the Obama administration is “in advanced negotiations to share nuclear fuel and technology... that would allow Hanoi to enrich its own uranium.”

The Globalzero listed Vietnam as 1 of 59 countries own nuclear materials and could start the program of developing nuclear weapons.

 

[xiao qi]

The modern naval warfare is solely built on technology and money.



China won't attack any nuclear free countries with the nuclear weapons.

Also, China doesn't have the intention to solve the SCS problems only with the war.

I'm saying about how to defeat the Chinese now . Frankly, No chances or opportunity for Vietnam when counter with China. " China won't attack any nuclear free countries with the nuclear weapons" i doubt about that. In Vietnam war, Us had a plan to nuke Noth Vietnam and Khe Sanh.Fortunately, it didn't happen . Russia had too when they had conflict with China ..( if i remember right, at that time China hasn't nuke for herself )

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

I'm saying about how to defeat the Chinese now . Frankly, No chances or opportunity for Vietnam when counter with China. " China won't attack any nuclear free countries with the nuclear weapons" i doubt about that. In Vietnam war, Us had a plan to nuke Noth Vietnam and Khe Sanh.Fortunately, it didn't happen . Russia had too when they had conflict with China ..( if i remember right, at that time China hasn't nuke for herself )

China didn't even use nukes on Vietnam back in 1979 where China suffered the shortcomings of equipment and fighting experience.

Back then, China only got nukes, but its conventional weapons were weaker than Vietnam's.

 

[BoQ77]

China didn't even use nukes on Vietnam back in 1979 where China suffered the shortcomings of equipment and fighting experience.

Back then, China only got nukes, but its conventional weapons were weaker than Vietnam's.

My friend, Vietnam doesn't want to be another North Korea.