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No way.Plz know why they want those warships
Always talking about boats aren't you, Boat Boy?
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No way.Plz know why they want those warships
With some few exceptions, the current laws of Japan forbid exporting weapons to overseas. Even the scope of Japanese army is very limitted, strickly in terms of budgets and defence.
If Mr Abe wins the upcoming upper house election, taking place on next Sunday, he is expected to change the post war constitutions. That would allow him more freedoms on foreign policy, including selling warships to Vietnam. I know Japan builds some good subs and destroyers, so I wish Mr Abe good luck as he is a friend of Vietnam.
If Russian could cost down, why Vietnam bought 6x kilo(type636) still need 2.1billion U.S dollar(other news said 3.2billion)? In the past, 2005 China just spent 1.8billion bought 8x kilo(type636) submarines from Russia. (before 2005 China owned 2x type636 and 2x type877 kilo submarines).Hmm, if we come to Russian, the price will be easier for our Budget.
Prepare another 100 million $ to purchase additional anti-aircraft missiles and advanced anti-ship missiles for warships, if u wanna using Russian missiles also need money to update electronic control system, fire control system and radar system.And I saw in some source, FREMM, De Zeven Provinciën-class frigate or F-124 class has price from 600 to 800 millions $ (lower cost when compare to USA and China ships cost). So, there is still has good stuff for us.
nobody knows exactly how much Vietnam pays, but the packet consists of 6 attack subs including crew training, weapons, and submarine base (Cam Ranh). So $3.2billion may be a more realistic figure.If Russian could cost down, why Vietnam bought 6x kilo(type636) still need 2.1billion U.S dollar(other news said 3.2billion)? In the past, 2005 China just spent 1.8billion bought 8x kilo(type636) submarines from Russia. (before 2005 China owned 2x type636 and 2x type877 kilo submarines).
there are rumors that Vietnam plans to increase annual defence budget to $10 bn. So that would not be a problem to finance.Prepare another 100 million $ to purchase additional anti-aircraft missiles and advanced anti-ship missiles for warships, if u wanna using Russian missiles also need money to update electronic control system, fire control system and radar system.
You does not sell weapons to Vietnam.China 054A class 4,000ton high-performance frigate just cost 200million $.
I think if other sources, Vietnam would buy ships from Japan or Korea.Vietnam imported Russian Gepard-3.9(type11611E) light frigate cost 150million $, a 2,100ton warship without any anti-aircraft missiles. (Better to choose Tiger(type20380) frigate, Indonesia
Navy will import 8x type20380)
a friend of VietnamHe just wanted to find a target to attract firepowerWith some few exceptions, the current laws of Japan forbid exporting weapons to overseas. Even the scope of Japanese army is very limitted, strickly in terms of budgets and defence.
If Mr Abe wins the upcoming upper house election, taking place on next Sunday, he is expected to change the post war constitutions. That would allow him more freedoms on foreign policy, including selling warships to Vietnam. I know Japan builds some good subs and destroyers, so I wish Mr Abe good luck as he is a friend of Vietnam.
we dont care about Vietnam,You're just a burden.we only need get back my south sea.Many Chinese dream day and night of how to take back Vietnam, integrating into the Chinese Empire...I am afraid it is hopeless, we see no end of conflicts in sight.
maybe your navy need boatsAlways talking about boats aren't you, Boat Boy?
Official anwser from VPA General said 6 Kilo submarine cost ~ 1.8 billion dollars. Others supply and stuff can get more money up to 3.2 billion dollars include training equipment, weapon, Submarine base ....If Russian could cost down, why Vietnam bought 6x kilo(type636) still need 2.1billion U.S dollar(other news said 3.2billion)? In the past, 2005 China just spent 1.8billion bought 8x kilo(type636) submarines from Russia. (before 2005 China owned 2x type636 and 2x type877 kilo submarines).
Prepare another 100 million $ to purchase additional anti-aircraft missiles and advanced anti-ship missiles for warships, if u wanna using Russian missiles also need money to update electronic control system, fire control system and radar system.
China 054A class 4,000ton high-performance frigate just cost 200million $.
Vietnam imported Russian Gepard-3.9(type11611E) light frigate cost 150million $, a 2,100ton warship without any anti-aircraft missiles. (Better to choose Tiger(type20380) frigate, Indonesia
Navy will import 8x type20380)
let wait and see what comes if Mr Abe wins the upcoming election, he has some nice news for you.a friend of VietnamHe just wanted to find a target to attract firepower
you can not afford Japanese warships,and they cant provide air defense missile and anti-ship missile.
you troll too much, dude...you can begin to claim my toilet as yours since ancient times.we dont care about Vietnam,You're just a burden.we only need get back my south sea.
I am waiting ,but i think its not a good news for you.let wait and see what comes if Mr Abe wins the upcoming election, he has some nice news for you.
Kid,Do you know whats Diplomatic language?Anyway I wonder when our politicians or military generals visit China, your people always talk of common mountains, cultures, ideals and fate, and friendship...such stuffs? if you don´t care about us.
054A maybe good stuff, but we have example from Thailand Navy. Even if PRC want sell it to us, we also don't know what's "extra gift" give by PRC on the ship. And many PRC weapon systems came from Russian, so ...
I don't know where u get information the China weapon system came from Russian ? If they from Russian, Why Russia Navy warships not install any VLS anti-aircraft missile like HHQ-16 and HHQ-9 in China 054A and 052C class? Why Russia Navy warships not install any close defense missile like HHQ-10 RAM in China 056 class and CV16 A.C ? Our CIWS also looks completely difference. Our domestic C-802,C-803, YJ-62 etc anti-ship missile all different. Okay even Navy J-15 fighter looks like Su-33 but Russian can't resume their own Su-33 production line and prepare for Mig-29k with Indian.
And China did not export 1 warship to Thailand, from 1990s to 2005 we exported 3 kinds of many warships to Thailand Royal Navy. Even if Thailand won't select China warships, it just means they have higher requirement and enough fund to purchase other advnaced warship from foreign country, the weapon market is the business and customer could choose other better weapons.
Okay, 053H3 class is a old fashion shipbody even PLAN didn't consider 053 and 053H3 as main warship. It's obviously 053H3's weapons and radar system cheaper and lower than 054,052 class.I read in many source said "many" (not all) PRC system design by some Russian Institute like radar, VLS, missile HHQ-16 on 054A, and some more examples. Like everyone know, China got many good thing from Russsia, it's true.
Hm, I don't know detail of Thailand - China deal in 1990 to 2005, just got news about Thai's navy complaim and want upgrade 053H3 ship by Euro company, not PRC pack.
Well, I don't know detail Thai's navy deal with SAAB, you can right on 053H3 case. But Chile and Peru can become another example about immature system from China.Okay, 053H3 class is a old fashion shipbody even PLAN didn't consider 053 and 053H3 as main warship. It's obviously 053H3's weapons and radar system cheaper and lower than 054,052 class.
And Thailand bought these 053H3 nearly twenty years ago, what u can hope ? Hope it can as powerful as today 2010 latest warship ? Ironically, they need to be updated or to buy latest warship.
@Soryu, i need to correct here. China HHQ-16 VLS is the hot-launched VLS system,it's working principle like American MK-41 VLS. We knew currently cold-launched VLS still be installed on Russia warships like SA-N-6C. I didn't see new Russia warship using hot-launched VLS yet, can u remind me ? Yep, i believe Russian finally install domestic hot-launched VLS on their warship, but Chinese developed HHQ-16 much earlier than them.
Well, it maybe RIGHT or WRONG coz no any official confirmed just a rumor ^_^. Anyway if we refer by equipment time the China hot-launch VLS system served in Navy really earlier than Russia. Russian still developing their own hot-launch VLS right now.Well, I don't know detail Thai's navy deal with SAAB, you can right on 053H3 case. But Chile and Peru can become another example about immature system from China.
Right, but their new VLS like Redut and USUK are hot launch system (in 20380 and 20385 project).
In case, maybe Russia Institute design VLS system for China HHQ-16, get money and experience for their own system. Same case was happened with South Korean MR-SAM and new system presented by Russian in recent days.