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If you said it before 1977,we must help you.but now :azn:

everything have a start and ends right? Maybe this will be a start for more warm and welcoming relationship between China and Vietnam
 
everything have a start and ends right? Maybe this will be a start for more warm and welcoming relationship between China and Vietnam

No way.Plz know why they want those warships:azn:
 
If you said it before 1977,we must help you.but now :azn:

From 1972 China had already her new master, who is our enemy.:undecided:


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:omghaha:PLz dont forget The Sino-Soviet border conflict in 1969.
you choose the side and need pay for it:azn:

After such backstabber on Soviet, Uncle Sam let China joined in UN. It's policy of China, betrayed whom who helped you won on KMT.:omghaha:
 
After such backstabber on Soviet, Uncle Sam let China joined in UN. It's policy of China, betrayed whom who helped you won on KMT.:omghaha:

:omghaha:Not by Soviet

After such backstabber on Soviet, Uncle Sam let China joined in UN. It's policy of China, betrayed whom who helped you won on KMT.:omghaha:

Soviet only help china to fight with japan,but US do same thing.
 
Without weapons of Red Army was handed to you after liberation of Manchuria 1945. Picture of Zheng Kaishek is on top of Tian Anmen now.:omghaha:

:omghaha:Do you forget your weapons and food from china? We send our weapons and foodto you ,Soviet only send japanese weapons to us.only as garbage
 
:omghaha:Do you forget your weapons and food from china? We send our weapons and foodto you ,Soviet only send japanese weapons to us.only as garbage

Soviets helped both China and Vietnam, China attacked Soviet Union to change your master to USA. China reduced help from 1968 after Tet Offensive and stopped after 1972 when us army attacked brutally on both North and South Vietnam . Traitor don' have right to calculation :omghaha:



Only Soviet and socialist countries helped us to end of Vietnam war 1975.
 
Soviets helped both China and Vietnam, China attacked Soviet Union to change your master to USA. China reduced help from 1968 after Tet Offensive and stopped after 1972 when us army attacked brutally on both North and South Vietnam . Traitor don' have right to calculation :omghaha:



Only Soviet and socialist countries helped us to end of Vietnam war 1975.

ok,you know that we never help you again is enough:azn:
 
In Asia why not Japan ? Did Vietnam consider to buy ships from Japan or import shipbuilding technology from Japanese, yep we knew Japan also own advanced shipbuilding technology and their domestic AIP submarine good in Asia.

I knew Japanese still saving many retired warships in their military ports, and Japan has a big second-hand warship storage.
 
In Asia why not Japan ? Did Vietnam consider to buy ships from Japan or import shipbuilding technology from Japanese, yep we knew Japan also own advanced shipbuilding technology and their domestic AIP submarine good in Asia.

I knew Japanese still saving many retired warships in their military ports, and Japan has a big second-hand warship storage.
With some few exceptions, the current laws of Japan forbid exporting weapons to overseas. Even the scope of Japanese army is very limitted, strickly in terms of budgets and defence.

If Mr Abe wins the upcoming upper house election, taking place on next Sunday, he is expected to change the post war constitutions. That would allow him more freedoms on foreign policy, including selling warships to Vietnam. I know Japan builds some good subs and destroyers, so I wish Mr Abe good luck as he is a friend of Vietnam.

everything have a start and ends right? Maybe this will be a start for more warm and welcoming relationship between China and Vietnam
Many Chinese dream day and night of how to take back Vietnam, integrating into the Chinese Empire...I am afraid it is hopeless, we see no end of conflicts in sight.
 
I think Vietnam Navy needs more toys urgently in the next 5 years at sea: 6 more attack submarines, 4 more frigates, and last but not least 4 destroyers. Additional $5 bn should be mobilised for this.
That's too much for Navy, bro. This plan will dry out money for both army and Airforce budget. In the end 2016, we just receive the last Sub, and get more air defense equipments, may be more 2 frigate and patrol boats, but not destroyers.

And we have most modern Submarine in SEA now, Singapore has 6 Sub, too. But 4 of them are old now. I think we can get new Sub, after 2018 or 2020.
Agree, 5 billion U.S dollar at most for 5x modern Frigates and logistic supports.

Today any phased array radar air-defense DDG at least each cost 1-1.5billion U.S dollar (for example 1996 China bought 4x Sovremenny class DDG from Russia,of course today not advanced each cost 0.7 U.S dollar. China 052C DDG 0.9billion and 052D over 1 billion U.S dollar, West air-defense DDGs higher price). They need prepare another 5billion U.S dollar to at most purchase 4x modern destroyers. Last time Vietnam signed with Russia 2.1billion U.S dollar to purchase 6x Kilo submarines.

So i think today the reasonable price for 6 attack submarines + 4x more frigate + 4x destroyers = 12 to 13billion U.S dollar
Hmm, if we come to Russian, the price will be easier for our Budget.
And I saw in some source, FREMM, De Zeven Provinciën-class frigate or F-124 class has price from 600 to 800 millions $ (lower cost when compare to USA and China ships cost). So, there is still has good stuff for us. :cheers:
what I am thinking of is Russia to transfer shipbuilding technology to Vietnam, and we build naval vessels by ourselves. I remember that they promised to do that at the last Russia-Vietnam summit. Otherwise $5bn is not enough.

Vietnam latest news - Thanh Nien Daily | Russia seeks closer naval ties with Vietnam

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Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu (2nd, L) and his Vietnamese counterpart Phung Quang Thanh after talks at the Ministry of Defense in Hanoi on March 5 2013
Well, it's not so fast. Until now, no news for manufacturer plant for Yakhont missile or X-35, same case with Israel support plant. :what:
I know that is too ambitious. Can China help? We are friends :china:

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Vietnamese General Vinh visits PLA's Peacekeeping Centre in Beijing, June 5th 2013
No need to care about him, he just come for troll .... :sick:
It is very interesting and inspiring reading through and seeing photos here, I thought Vietnam is still using bad equipment and old tanks and military stuffs remaining after the US invasion time :D. Now I know that I was wrong :D
The world forward, so we must come with it. :cheers:
everything have a start and ends right? Maybe this will be a start for more warm and welcoming relationship between China and Vietnam
We were still doing that.
In Asia why not Japan ? Did Vietnam consider to buy ships from Japan or import shipbuilding technology from Japanese, yep we knew Japan also own advanced shipbuilding technology and their domestic AIP submarine good in Asia.

I knew Japanese still saving many retired warships in their military ports, and Japan has a big second-hand warship storage.
Their political and laws are issues.
With some few exceptions, the current laws of Japan forbid exporting weapons to overseas. Even the scope of Japanese army is very limitted, strickly in terms of budgets and defence.

If Mr Abe wins the upcoming upper house election, taking place on next Sunday, he is expected to change the post war constitutions. That would allow him more freedoms on foreign policy, including selling warships to Vietnam. I know Japan builds some good subs and destroyers, so I wish Mr Abe good luck as he is a friend of Vietnam.


Many Chinese dream day and night of how to take back Vietnam, integrating into the Chinese Empire...I am afraid it is hopeless, we see no end of conflicts in sight.
We can expect some Soryu come with VPN if The Aussie pick it and the price become more easy for us. :cheers:
 
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