Vegans 43% more likely to suffer broken bones than meat eaters, Oxford study finds

[dreamer11]

Vegans 43% more likely to suffer broken bones than meat eaters, Oxford study finds
A study by academics at the University of Oxford found that vegans have more than double the risk of suffering a broken hip than meat eaters, with the affliction common in older people, especially women.
Vegan diets more than double the risk of a broken hip, warns new research.

A study of more than 50,000 British people tracked over two decades found giving up animal flesh weakens bones - and can trigger osteoporosis.

Compared with people who ate meat and fish, scientists found that those with lower calcium and protein intake were especially prone to hip, leg and spine fractures.

Vegans were also 43 per cent more likely to suffer a fracture anywhere. In particular this applied to the leg, vertebrae and collarbone.

The latest research by the Vegan Society says there are now 600,000 vegans in Britain.

Study lead author Dr Tammy Tong, an Oxford University nutritional epidemiologist, said: "The biggest differences were for hip fractures, where the risk in vegans was 2.3 times higher than in people who ate meat - equivalent to 15 more cases per 1,000 people over 10 years."
Women are most vulnerable because their bones naturally lose strength after the menopause as levels of oestrogen drop.

Famous celebrity vegans include Natalie Portman, Ellie Goulding, Pamela Anderson, Sir Paul McCartney and Joaquin Phoenix.

The most comprehensive analysis of its kind was based on participants of the EPIC-Oxford study who were recruited between 1993 and 2001 - around three quarters of whom are women.

Around 29,400 ate meat, nearly 17,500 were vegetarians or vegans and just over 8,000 were fish eating pescatarians.

Dr Tong said: "We found vegans had a higher risk of total fractures which resulted in close to 20 more cases per 1000 people over a 10-year period compared to people who ate meat."

Participants' diets were assessed initially, and then again in 2010. They were followed up until 2016, for 18 years on average, for the occurrence of fractures.

Fracture risk was partly reduced once BMI (body mass index) and dietary calcium and protein consumption had been taken into account.
This is associated with a higher risk of hip fractures, and low intakes of calcium and protein have both been linked to poorer bone health."

Possible explanations include the cushioning against impact force during a fall, enhanced oestrogen production with increased adiposity or stronger bones from greater weight-bearing.

Dr Tong said: "This study showed vegans, who on average had lower BMI as well as lower intakes of calcium and protein than meat eaters, had higher risks of fractures at several sites.

"Well-balanced and predominantly plant-based diets can result in improved nutrient levels and have been linked to lower risks of diseases including heart disease and diabetes.

"Individuals should take into account the benefits and risks of their diet, and ensure they have adequate levels of calcium and protein and also maintain a healthy BMI, that is, neither under nor overweight."

Vegans 43% more likely to suffer broken bones than meat eaters, study finds

A study by academics at the University of Oxford found that vegans have more than double the risk of suffering a broken hip than meat eaters, with the affliction common in older people, especially women

www.mirror.co.uk

lol this is just common sense, Vegetarianism is okay but Vegan is a disease.

All factory farming animals meat is Poison (full of antibiotics, chemicals)& complete $hit.

Anyway, it SOLVED by Hindu civilization 3000 years ago, thanks to holy cow.

Milk, Curd, Paneer, Cheez, Buttermilk, Ghee &what not, even COW MANURE is used as organic fertilizer as it is 100% natural and good for all plants.

 

[Galactic Penguin SST]

FairAndUnbiased said:

Eat cow become cow?

Eat pig become pig?

No thanks, I'll stick to my NBA vegan diet so I remain clear of heart disease and obesity.

Ear only lemons become a lemon.

Please finish your sentences

Ok:

The secret of my invincible strength revealed:

Durian every day, that gives me an impregnable physical outer shell,

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▲ 1. Durian every day, for an impregnable physical outer shell.

and at the same time a softer inner core (mind):

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▲ 2. Durian every day for a softer inner core (mind).

Bonus: act as a powerful natural repellent against cannibals!

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▲ 3. Composite picture of the Secret Master of the World. Notice the face is unknown.
From all what we know about this mysterious leader's description, the Forensic Artist can put together a sketch of the criminal:
Aged 100 to 125, 150 - 190 cm, heavy build or flimsy, blond or black hair, dark or blue eyes, light or brown skin, European or Asian, spoke English well and fluent Japanese, PhD in Physics and Medicine.
Particular sign: has four canine teeth of bloodsucker vampire cannibal.
Notice the tyrant is holding in his arms a Persian cat, symbolizing all the puppet leader strawmen of the world he wire pulls.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Vegans 43% more likely to suffer broken bones than meat eaters, Oxford study finds
A study by academics at the University of Oxford found that vegans have more than double the risk of suffering a broken hip than meat eaters, with the affliction common in older people, especially women.
Vegan diets more than double the risk of a broken hip, warns new research.

A study of more than 50,000 British people tracked over two decades found giving up animal flesh weakens bones - and can trigger osteoporosis.

Compared with people who ate meat and fish, scientists found that those with lower calcium and protein intake were especially prone to hip, leg and spine fractures.

Vegans were also 43 per cent more likely to suffer a fracture anywhere. In particular this applied to the leg, vertebrae and collarbone.

The latest research by the Vegan Society says there are now 600,000 vegans in Britain.

Study lead author Dr Tammy Tong, an Oxford University nutritional epidemiologist, said: "The biggest differences were for hip fractures, where the risk in vegans was 2.3 times higher than in people who ate meat - equivalent to 15 more cases per 1,000 people over 10 years."
Women are most vulnerable because their bones naturally lose strength after the menopause as levels of oestrogen drop.

Famous celebrity vegans include Natalie Portman, Ellie Goulding, Pamela Anderson, Sir Paul McCartney and Joaquin Phoenix.

The most comprehensive analysis of its kind was based on participants of the EPIC-Oxford study who were recruited between 1993 and 2001 - around three quarters of whom are women.

Around 29,400 ate meat, nearly 17,500 were vegetarians or vegans and just over 8,000 were fish eating pescatarians.

Dr Tong said: "We found vegans had a higher risk of total fractures which resulted in close to 20 more cases per 1000 people over a 10-year period compared to people who ate meat."

Participants' diets were assessed initially, and then again in 2010. They were followed up until 2016, for 18 years on average, for the occurrence of fractures.

Fracture risk was partly reduced once BMI (body mass index) and dietary calcium and protein consumption had been taken into account.
This is associated with a higher risk of hip fractures, and low intakes of calcium and protein have both been linked to poorer bone health."

Possible explanations include the cushioning against impact force during a fall, enhanced oestrogen production with increased adiposity or stronger bones from greater weight-bearing.

Dr Tong said: "This study showed vegans, who on average had lower BMI as well as lower intakes of calcium and protein than meat eaters, had higher risks of fractures at several sites.

"Well-balanced and predominantly plant-based diets can result in improved nutrient levels and have been linked to lower risks of diseases including heart disease and diabetes.

"Individuals should take into account the benefits and risks of their diet, and ensure they have adequate levels of calcium and protein and also maintain a healthy BMI, that is, neither under nor overweight."

Vegans 43% more likely to suffer broken bones than meat eaters, study finds

A study by academics at the University of Oxford found that vegans have more than double the risk of suffering a broken hip than meat eaters, with the affliction common in older people, especially women

www.mirror.co.uk

Just wait for few years, this report will say the opposite of what it is saying now.
And yeah, Gao mutra, Yoga and what not will also be included in this "Research".

 

[newb3e]

no wonder IA were butchered easily by sticks by PLA!

 

[Galactic Penguin SST]

lol this is just common sense, Vegetarianism is okay but Vegan is a disease.

Anyway, it SOLVED by Hindu civilization 3000 years ago, thanks to holy cow.

Milk, Curd, Paneer, Cheez, Buttermilk, Ghee &what not, even COW MANURE is used as organic fertilizer as it is 100% natural and good for all plants.

Outrageous racist, ethnocentric motivated fallacious claim once again!

On the contrary, truth is that milk is known to be toxic, if not mortal to most adult humans, including true ethnic Chinese (not the Mongo-Manchu inbreeds).

1 avril 2018

« C'est totalement la faute de la maîtresse. » Dans une interview accordée samedi soir à France Info, le père de l'enfant de six ans mort d'une réaction allergique après avoir mangé une crêpe s'en prend à l'enseignante de son fils. Pour lui, avoir donné cet aliment alors que son enfant ne tolérait pas le lait, « c'est pire qu'une erreur ».

“It's totally the teacher's fault. In an interview with France Info on Saturday evening, the father of the six-year-old child who died of an allergic reaction after eating a pancake attacked his son's teacher. For him, to have given this food while his child did not tolerate the milk, "it is worse than a mistake".

https://www.leparisien.fr/faits-divers/enfant-mort-apres-avoir-mange-une-crepe-le-pere-accuse-la-maitresse-d-ecole-01-04-2018-7640547.php
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People kind of seem to be skipping over this. Vegans need more protein and calcium, even if plant based. It is a fact that you get more protein and calcium from animal products, and at a higher quality.

[*]Size has nothing to do with vegan diet.

Absolute counter-truth. All the largest animals to have lived on Earth at each geological ages have always been the vegetarian ones not the carnivorous ones. Without any exceptions!

Moreover, the most musculous and largest in size hominid ever to have lived on Earth was not only vegan but probably exclusively dieting on bamboos:

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▲ 1. Presumed to be more than two meters tall and weigh over 300 kg, Gigantopithecus are the largest primates known to have lived on earth.

January 11, 2016

Scientists still knew relatively little about how the gigantic beast lived and why it died out, though theories abound. Noting the similarity between the large size of G. blacki's molars and the overgrown chompers of giant pandas, some have argued G. blacki dined exclusively on bamboo. But wear and tear on the teeth of G. blacki suggested it ate a diet heavy on fruits, with leaves and roots in the mix, Bocherens said.

http://web.archive.org/web/20201218082858/https://www.livescience.com/53313-biggest-ape-forest-dweller.html
https://archive.vn/kWaWJ​

Gigantopithecus appears to have been a generalist herbivore of C3 forest plants, with the jaw adapted to grinding, crushing, and cutting through tough, fibrous plants; and the thick enamel functioning to resist foods with abrasive particles such as stems, roots, and tubers with dirt. Some teeth bear traces of fig family fruits. It primarily lived in subtropical to tropical forest,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigantopithecus
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Scientists are able to demonstrate that Gigantopithecus is a sister clade to orangutans with a common ancestor about 12 million to 10 million years ago, implying that the divergence of Gigantopithecus from Pongo forms part of the Miocene radiation of great apes, according to the paper.

Presumed to be more than two meters tall and weigh over 300 kg, Gigantopithecus are the largest primates known to have lived on earth. Their fossils date from two million to 300,000 years ago.

The genetic materials -- dental enamel proteome sequences -- were retrieved in 2018 from a 1.9-million-year-old Gigantopithecus blacki molar found in a cave in southern China's Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region

In a nutshell Gigantopithecus blacki is a contemporary of the Sinanthrope that both strived in China 2 millions years ago, becoming endemic in the cfa humid subtropical climate, bamboo forest ecosystem, thus developing a common acute taste for bamboo shoots!

 

[KurtisBrian]

people are not the same. Most Chinese (Sino people) are lactose intolerant where as vast majority of those who now inhabit Europe drink huge quantities of milk. Likely the requirement for meat is not the same among different people.

Lassi, curd, buttermilk, yogurt....all these things are fermented. They are fermented so those without the enzyme (lactase) to digest milk sugars (lactose) can digest it.
Some people in Africa and South America eat apes and monkeys, "bush meat". So close to cannibalism.
People are very different. Ancient Egyptian "myth" speaks of how Osiris stopped cannibalism. How did he do it. Perhaps he made it so the predatory cannibal people could eat plants and drink milk.

 

[reflecthofgeismar]

It has a reason why we humans, like bears (except Polar Bears, which are a relative young sister species of Brown Bears who became hyper carnivores), are Omnivores.

 

[Buddhistforlife]

Vegans 43% more likely to suffer broken bones than meat eaters, Oxford study finds
A study by academics at the University of Oxford found that vegans have more than double the risk of suffering a broken hip than meat eaters, with the affliction common in older people, especially women.
Vegan diets more than double the risk of a broken hip, warns new research.

A study of more than 50,000 British people tracked over two decades found giving up animal flesh weakens bones - and can trigger osteoporosis.

Compared with people who ate meat and fish, scientists found that those with lower calcium and protein intake were especially prone to hip, leg and spine fractures.

Vegans were also 43 per cent more likely to suffer a fracture anywhere. In particular this applied to the leg, vertebrae and collarbone.

The latest research by the Vegan Society says there are now 600,000 vegans in Britain.

Study lead author Dr Tammy Tong, an Oxford University nutritional epidemiologist, said: "The biggest differences were for hip fractures, where the risk in vegans was 2.3 times higher than in people who ate meat - equivalent to 15 more cases per 1,000 people over 10 years."
Women are most vulnerable because their bones naturally lose strength after the menopause as levels of oestrogen drop.

Famous celebrity vegans include Natalie Portman, Ellie Goulding, Pamela Anderson, Sir Paul McCartney and Joaquin Phoenix.

The most comprehensive analysis of its kind was based on participants of the EPIC-Oxford study who were recruited between 1993 and 2001 - around three quarters of whom are women.

Around 29,400 ate meat, nearly 17,500 were vegetarians or vegans and just over 8,000 were fish eating pescatarians.

Dr Tong said: "We found vegans had a higher risk of total fractures which resulted in close to 20 more cases per 1000 people over a 10-year period compared to people who ate meat."

Participants' diets were assessed initially, and then again in 2010. They were followed up until 2016, for 18 years on average, for the occurrence of fractures.

Fracture risk was partly reduced once BMI (body mass index) and dietary calcium and protein consumption had been taken into account.
This is associated with a higher risk of hip fractures, and low intakes of calcium and protein have both been linked to poorer bone health."

Possible explanations include the cushioning against impact force during a fall, enhanced oestrogen production with increased adiposity or stronger bones from greater weight-bearing.

Dr Tong said: "This study showed vegans, who on average had lower BMI as well as lower intakes of calcium and protein than meat eaters, had higher risks of fractures at several sites.

"Well-balanced and predominantly plant-based diets can result in improved nutrient levels and have been linked to lower risks of diseases including heart disease and diabetes.

"Individuals should take into account the benefits and risks of their diet, and ensure they have adequate levels of calcium and protein and also maintain a healthy BMI, that is, neither under nor overweight."

Vegans 43% more likely to suffer broken bones than meat eaters, study finds

A study by academics at the University of Oxford found that vegans have more than double the risk of suffering a broken hip than meat eaters, with the affliction common in older people, especially women

www.mirror.co.uk

What bullcrap?

You don't need to eat meat to keep your bones or body healthy. Animal products are not meat only. Eggs, Milk etc are animal products which are good for your bones and your muscles.

 

[Galactic Penguin SST]

Algae and yeast are not from the animal family.


Plants are also made of living cells.


The point of veganism is to avoid animal products, not to avoid all living cells.


I agree that "milk" imprinted onto the synthetic apparatus of yeast or algae may not be strictly vegan ....but not for the reasons you're stating.

Again arbitrary claims of what is living or not, while having reached the era of genetic engineering, space age, A.I. and facing the unbreakable bottleneck of exo-diplomacy.

Although the Chinese Civilization was at the forefront of mankind in developing the Chi Arts e.g. the Bodhisattva Emperor Wu of Liang (梁武帝) (464–549), all progress were stopped and lost forever following the invasion of the barbarians from the North, after the defeat of the last Song Dynasty loyalists by 1279.

As unlikely as it seems, some Chi Arts thinkings have survived in the East, in the remote Japanese islands, that escaped the Mongolian genocide spree:

We founded two stone monuments (one for artificial cells and lives, the other for microorganisms) to think over lifeness of artificial cells/lives and microorganisms as an artistic project in Ibaraki Prefecture, Japan, and started annual memorial services. At the initial memorial service, we prepared two glass jars, one containing experimental tools which had been actually used for representative artificial cell studies at nine laboratories, and the other containing samples and tools related to microorganisms used for fermentation foods produced locally in Ibaraki prefecture. One year later, these jars were buried beneath the monuments.​

Of course, this is far from being compliant with the standard Chi Arts focus tree, as Japan first stagnated for centuries in this field, from the 13th AD until the mid-19th century, only to engage in a Bushido-only focus (military focus) development by mimicking its new European masters. Therefore falling into the abyss of barbarism, including colonialism, imperialism, genocide, use of WMD on civilian population, chemical weapons against Taiwan's aborigine during the 1930 Wushe Incident, germ warfare in Manchuria then China from 1936, then escalating with directed-energy and mind-control warfare and even human experimentations.

Japan under today's U.S. occupation is now showing apparently more wisdom, though belatedly and neither sincere nor spontaneous.

Japanese memorial service for microorganisms and artificial cells and lives

Two Japanese customs: Memorial services for experimental organisms and even non biological tools.

More than 90% of universities and biomedical research institutions in Japan hold memorial services for experimental animals or experimental organisms every year. Usually, biology is taken to attempt objective description of life, and tries to exclude ambiguous expressions as much as possible. But memorial services held in scientific institutions show that such intersubjective and emotional experience is formally organized repetitively in the hall of science. Officially it is supposed to be for educational and ethical purposes for the use of sacrificed animals. But historically it is also as an extension of Japanese tradition of memorial services for non-human species. For example, we can easily see many old stone monuments for horses, fish, and many other organisms all over Japan. There is even a monument for snails which were vectors for serious parasitic infection. By 1983 the snails were eradicated in the southern part of Japan. In the monument it is written that “We hereby commemorate the Miyairi snails that have been made artificially eradicated in the area of the Chikugo river, for the sake of protection of our human society.” Here we can see the deep compassion of the eradicators even for the eradicated.


Commemoration of artificial cells as a thinking/artistic experiment

Our project is to bridge the gap between the two aspects, the biological and the intersubjective, of artificial cells by setting a memorial service and a monument deliberately. By doing so, it raises questions such as “what are death and lifeness of such synthesized cells” and “is artificial life worth commemorated?” We founded a stone monument to the “souls” of artificial cells/lives in Japan as an artistic project in Ibaraki Prefecture in 2016, and started annual memorial services. We also made a monument to innumerable microorganisms, as the area (Ibaraki Pref.) is rich in fermentation food culture. At the initial memorial service, we prepared a glass jar containing experimental tools which had been actually used for representative artificial cell/life studies at nine laboratories. The list of the tools is as follows:

Background

Aesthetics about synthetic cell projects

One of the most ambitious questions related with synthetic biology is whether we can make a synthetic protocell in a test tube by combining biomolecules. Scientifically it is very exciting because it makes us to reconsider what life is, what cells are, what is boundary between life and non-living materials.

There are mainly two ways to synthesize artificial cells. One is a top-down or hacking approach. It is represented by the creation of artificial bacteria based on mail-ordered, or chemically synthesized genomic DNA performed by the C Venter Institute in US (2010-). What we think interesting is that, if you ask many biologists if this bacterium is alive, most of them would answer “yes, it is” But if you ask if this is ‘synthetic life’, it will be much more debatable, and many scientists would disagree with the idea. Meanwhile, there is another approach to creating protocells, which is based on the “scratch and build. What it does is to combine biochemical molecules for continuous regeneration of genetic, membrane, and protein compounds, etc. This time, many researchers would agree that it is “synthetic”. However, about its being “alive”, their answer would not be unanimous. It is probably because the question of “whether newly designed artificial protocell or a biochemical complex is alive” sounds somewhat emotional, with the implication of “what life is for you.”

Actually, life can be considered with at least two aspects: One is a biological object, being described as a biological complex or organism. The other is life as an intersubjective presence, which is perceived to an observer as a more emotional object or relationship as “life with us”, which is exemplified by the state of funerals and commemorations, for example. We are interested in the ambiguous border and complicated relationship between the two aspects, that is biological and intersubjective and/or even ontological. They are tightly interlocked and form complicated boundary. Obviously, aesthetics or art is a good platform to explore such topics. We guess one reason is due to intrinsic similarity between life and arts.


http://web.archive.org/web/20201226163242/https://hideo-iwasaki.com/aprayer
https://archive.vn/Yf0aj​

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▲ 1. The annual memorial service to pray for deseased experimental organisms, Waseda University, November 2015.

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▲ 2. Memorial services for experimental organisms and even non biological tools.

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▲ 3. Memorial services for experimental organisms and even non biological tools.

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▲ 4. Memorial services for experimental organisms and even non biological tools.


But they kill animals in laboratory experiments as per the U.S. overlord practice, then whitewashing their deeds with some commemorations.

Thus preventing the Japanese civilization from breaking the exo-diplomatic bottleneck.

 

[letsrock]

You can be healthy on vegan diet if you are rich and careful all the time buying supplements and proper nutrition planning. But for most people they need some meat in their life for both nutrition and satisfaction. I personally think east Asian cuisine is healthy. There is some meat or fish in every meal or at least their sauce with plenty of vegetables and moderate carbs like rice.

 

[Tumba]

Vegan in West
And
Vegetarian in India
Are completely two different way of life...

Indian Vegetarian get healthy I say very healthy diet of dairy based products and pulses and veggies with wheat and rice...

Vegan in west is pretty new concept to reach Indian civilization level of perfected Vegetarian they will need millennium if dont directly borrow from India like Yoga and Meditation

 

[rishav]

what is the point to life without being able to enjoy . What is the use of living maybe extra 5 years if you don't even eat one of the most tastiest food in the world.

 

[Galactic Penguin SST]

what is the point to life without being able to enjoy . What is the use of living maybe extra 5 years if you don't even eat one of the most tastiest food in the world.

Don't you read the previous replies or can't you simply understand the meaning?

Is there no worse situation than ending in today's dystopian dead end?

Do you realize that under the current Pax Americana, humans are being denied the right to cure all tumors including cancer and all infectious diseases including COVID-19?

Civilian Meson Particle accelerators will for ever be restricted to military use to ensure the survival of the Dystopian Empire.

Do you realize that upon reaching the space age threshold by 1940, humankind should have unlocked technologies to prevent death due to aging? Lost limbs and organs should have been restored with molecular engineering 80 years ago already.

Instead, today's humans are living in the pre-WW2 era standards. With fallacious vaccine smokescreen.

Due to the bad genetic setting of some, that is Homo SS, all humankind is paying the price!

MSG detection -> hunting -> warmongering -> genocide -> slavery -> exploitation -> imperialism -> colonialism -> totalitarism -> ecocide -> dystopian evolutionary deadend

MSG detection -> animal husbandry -> slavery -> reservations -> internment camps -> extermination camps -> dystopian evolutionary deadend

If to enjoy life one needs to endup in the dystopian abyss, then it says everything about the worth of one's genetic settings!

Instead of living as enlightened ever-young immortals (and absolutely far from the "living maybe extra 5 years " as you naively stated!), we are reduced to crawling as aging slaves. Think about it.

Vegan in West

And

Vegetarian in India

Are completely two different way of life...


Indian Vegetarian get healthy I say very healthy diet of dairy based products and pulses and veggies with wheat and rice...


Vegan in west is pretty new concept to reach Indian civilization level of perfected Vegetarian they will need millennium if dont directly borrow from India like Yoga and Meditation

Vegan is Chinese core civilization (from start 2 million BC to Liang Dynasty) and genetics, nothing to do with West!

What did Ancient Chinese soldiers eat?

Mostly grains. The most common being millet (pre-Qin and Han dynasties), since it has the longest shelf life compared to rice or wheat. Also, it was a stable crop in northern China, where most fighting took place between China and the nomadic invaders. Soldiers would boil the millet into congee, then add a source of salt (salt crystal, fermented fish, fermented soybean paste, or pickled vegetable), and whatever vegetables they scavenged along the way. Salt was a precious commodity back then, and soldier’s rations would include both grains and salt.

When soldiers from southern China made up part of the army, rice became part of the diet, because southern Chinese weren’t used to eating millet.

Ming army had a type of instant rice made from cooked and dried rice, just add hot water and it’s ready.

Under most circumstances, meat was very rare. Cows were used in farming, and horses were part of the cavalry. If an army is well disciplined, its soldiers were forbidden from taking animals from the local farms, especially the cows. It was a crime punishable by death. Depending on where the army came from, dried fish or meat jerky might be part of the diet. Only the generals could expect meat at meal time.

Fresh vegetable and fruit were even more of a luxury than fresh meat and thus not normally included in the logistics.

Like meat, alcoholic beverages were considered a luxury rather than a necessity.

As Chinese people were avid tea drinkers, tea was the most important drink after water in the military.

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And indeed, it is known to all true ethnic Chinese (not to be confused with the Mongo-Manchu-Euro inbreeds) that if one intends to slaughter a cow (water buffalo), as practiced under foreign barbarians' colonial occupation, this superior mammal being so intelligent, that suspecting its near end, it will even silently shed tears!

South Korean Soldiers to Be Offered Vegan Food

December 28, 2020 13:26

The Defense Ministry will provide a vegan diet for young meat-averse men who enlist in the military beginning next year, according to a spokesman on Sunday.

The ministry decided to give consideration to the growing popularity of veganism and vegetarianism and to religiously based food restrictions among recruits from multicultural families.

"We're going to make a food program for vegetarian and Muslim soldiers as soon as we figure out how many of them we have," the spokesman said. "From February next year, we'll let recruits identify if they're vegetarian when they fill in a personal questionnaire."

But currently only two soldiers have so far reported food restrictions, one a vegetarian and one a Muslim.

Last week the ministry hosted a forum to gather opinions before it hammers out a plan for any vegetarian and Muslim troops. One participant proposed a salad bar for soldiers just like in the U.S. military.

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[dreamer11]

Vegan in West
And
Vegetarian in India
Are completely two different way of life...

Indian Vegetarian get healthy I say very healthy diet of dairy based products and pulses and veggies with wheat and rice...

Vegan in west is pretty new concept to reach Indian civilization level of perfected Vegetarian they will need millennium if dont directly borrow from India like Yoga and Meditation

Vegan, Feminism are WESTERN PERVERSIONS or want to cross Western civilization BOUNDARIES.

Hindu civilization faced this issue 1000's of years ago aka Buddhism - Pacifism, Jainism- Extreme Pacifism. Jain/Munis don't take fruits (only eats fallen) because it hurts the tree and not eat Onions, Garlics etc as we have to kill the plant to get them.

 

[BHAN85]

Vegan clone of meat food is the future, I'm pretty sure.
It's cheaper and more healthy