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US withdrawal from Afghanistan: Lessons learned, not learned

Anwar Iqbal
August 16, 2023

WASHINGTON: US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said on Tuesday that withdrawing troops from Afghanistan was the right decision, but Washington understood it had “some enduring commitments” to meet in the war-torn country.

The United States quietly observed the second anniversary of its withdrawal from Afghanistan on Tuesday, with both officials and non-officials guessing what went wrong and how not to repeat those mistakes in future conflicts.

“The decision to withdraw from Afghanistan was an incredibly difficult one, but also the right one,” Secretary Blinken told a news briefing in Washington. “Even as we continue to work on supporting the Afghan people, we have some enduring commitments when it comes to Afghanistan. Those haven’t changed.”

While underscoring the need to provide humanitarian assistance to Afghanistan, the chief diplomat said: “We’ve been very clear with the Taliban … that the path to any more normal relationship between the Taliban and other countries will be blocked unless and until the rights of women and girls, among other things, are actually supported.”

In his latest report to Congress, US Special Inspector General for Afghanistan John F. Spoko said the “US experience in Afghanistan continues to offer many important lessons for other conflicts in the world today, as well as future conflicts.”

And a former US ambassador to Afghanistan and Pakistan, Ryan Crocker, identified three such lessons at an earlier congressional hearing.

“The first is to be careful about what you get into. Military interventions bring consequences, … consequences that we cannot even imagine, let alone plan for,” he said. The second lesson, he said, was that “a withdrawal can have consequences as far reaching and as serious as those of an intervention, … (as) we simply cede the field to our adversaries.” The third lesson, according to him, is to show strategic patience. The US failure to do so in Afghanistan, he said, had “its greatest impact … next door in Pakistan” where “allies came to fear our lack of strategic patience.”

A US media report, published by The Hill on Tuesday, identified six other mistakes. The first was President Bill Clinton’s failure to kill Osama bin Laden, although he had nine actionable tips, from 1998 to 2000. The second was President George W. Bush’s failure to order a sustained kinetic campaign against militant hideouts in Pakistan.

The third mistake was also Bush’s who allowed the military campaign to morph into nation-building. The fourth and fifth mistakes were President Obama’s announcing the intention to leave and holding talks with the Taliban as early as 2010.

The sixth strategic mistake was President Joe Biden’s unilateral decision in 2021 to abandon conditions-based withdrawal, and leave.

This week, Zalmay Khalilzad, the man who negotiated the settlement that led to the withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan, offered a new proposal to pacify Afghanistan. The former US special envoy urged Afghan politicians, now living in exile, to return to their country, “make a unity government and negotiate with the Taliban.”

The suggestion aims at strengthening Afghan society and jump-starting the political process. But the State Department clarified that this was Mr Khalilzad’s personal position.

Instead, the department offered to help Afghanistan rebuild its economy if the Taliban respect human rights, allow women to study and work and ensure that the Afghan territory is never used again for launching terrorist attacks.

“Helping address Afghanistan’s ongoing humanitarian and economic crises, is an urgent priority for us,” a department spokesperson Vedant Patel said at Monday afternoon’s news briefing. This was also highlighted at a C5+1 in Astana, Kazakhstan, this week where — the United States and five Central Asian nations met to consider how to stabilise Afghanistan.

“The seriousness of the humanitarian and economic conditions in Afghanistan requires a strong and coordinated response from the international community,” said a joint statement issued after the meeting.

Afghanistan’s Taliban rulers also realise the seriousness of the situation and regularly urge the international community to resume its assistance suspended after the US withdrawal. Earlier this month, the Taliban called on

the international community to “transparently share Afghanistan’s developments, allowing the world to comprehend the actual situation in the country and the strides being made.”

The C5+1 statement also focused on the demand for “preventing the territory of Afghanistan from being used as a base for hosting, financing, or exporting terrorism and violent extremism to other countries.”

Recent reports by US think-tanks indicate that the Taliban may be more willing to oblige now than ever before, because of the growing rivalry between them and other militants, particularly the ISIS-K.


 
The Brits are considering (or acting like they are considering) what they should be doing vis a vi Afghanistan as well.

 
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US withdrawal from Afghanistan: Lessons learned, not learned

Anwar Iqbal
August 16, 2023

WASHINGTON: US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said on Tuesday that withdrawing troops from Afghanistan was the right decision, but Washington understood it had “some enduring commitments” to meet in the war-torn country.

The United States quietly observed the second anniversary of its withdrawal from Afghanistan on Tuesday, with both officials and non-officials guessing what went wrong and how not to repeat those mistakes in future conflicts.

“The decision to withdraw from Afghanistan was an incredibly difficult one, but also the right one,” Secretary Blinken told a news briefing in Washington. “Even as we continue to work on supporting the Afghan people, we have some enduring commitments when it comes to Afghanistan. Those haven’t changed.”

While underscoring the need to provide humanitarian assistance to Afghanistan, the chief diplomat said: “We’ve been very clear with the Taliban … that the path to any more normal relationship between the Taliban and other countries will be blocked unless and until the rights of women and girls, among other things, are actually supported.”

In his latest report to Congress, US Special Inspector General for Afghanistan John F. Spoko said the “US experience in Afghanistan continues to offer many important lessons for other conflicts in the world today, as well as future conflicts.”

And a former US ambassador to Afghanistan and Pakistan, Ryan Crocker, identified three such lessons at an earlier congressional hearing.

“The first is to be careful about what you get into. Military interventions bring consequences, … consequences that we cannot even imagine, let alone plan for,” he said. The second lesson, he said, was that “a withdrawal can have consequences as far reaching and as serious as those of an intervention, … (as) we simply cede the field to our adversaries.” The third lesson, according to him, is to show strategic patience. The US failure to do so in Afghanistan, he said, had “its greatest impact … next door in Pakistan” where “allies came to fear our lack of strategic patience.”

A US media report, published by The Hill on Tuesday, identified six other mistakes. The first was President Bill Clinton’s failure to kill Osama bin Laden, although he had nine actionable tips, from 1998 to 2000. The second was President George W. Bush’s failure to order a sustained kinetic campaign against militant hideouts in Pakistan.

The third mistake was also Bush’s who allowed the military campaign to morph into nation-building. The fourth and fifth mistakes were President Obama’s announcing the intention to leave and holding talks with the Taliban as early as 2010.

The sixth strategic mistake was President Joe Biden’s unilateral decision in 2021 to abandon conditions-based withdrawal, and leave.

This week, Zalmay Khalilzad, the man who negotiated the settlement that led to the withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan, offered a new proposal to pacify Afghanistan. The former US special envoy urged Afghan politicians, now living in exile, to return to their country, “make a unity government and negotiate with the Taliban.”

The suggestion aims at strengthening Afghan society and jump-starting the political process. But the State Department clarified that this was Mr Khalilzad’s personal position.

Instead, the department offered to help Afghanistan rebuild its economy if the Taliban respect human rights, allow women to study and work and ensure that the Afghan territory is never used again for launching terrorist attacks.

“Helping address Afghanistan’s ongoing humanitarian and economic crises, is an urgent priority for us,” a department spokesperson Vedant Patel said at Monday afternoon’s news briefing. This was also highlighted at a C5+1 in Astana, Kazakhstan, this week where — the United States and five Central Asian nations met to consider how to stabilise Afghanistan.

“The seriousness of the humanitarian and economic conditions in Afghanistan requires a strong and coordinated response from the international community,” said a joint statement issued after the meeting.

Afghanistan’s Taliban rulers also realise the seriousness of the situation and regularly urge the international community to resume its assistance suspended after the US withdrawal. Earlier this month, the Taliban called on

the international community to “transparently share Afghanistan’s developments, allowing the world to comprehend the actual situation in the country and the strides being made.”

The C5+1 statement also focused on the demand for “preventing the territory of Afghanistan from being used as a base for hosting, financing, or exporting terrorism and violent extremism to other countries.”

Recent reports by US think-tanks indicate that the Taliban may be more willing to oblige now than ever before, because of the growing rivalry between them and other militants, particularly the ISIS-K.



Lesson for super power ?
Lol
given a chance all pakistanis (99 percent ) will go to America even by donki .
 
Indians lol
They are CEO of big companies .
They go by legal routes , not by illegal boats which has risk of drowning.
So all Indians that go to the US are CEOs? ; I guess Complete Escape Opportunists, then indeed, if you say so.

Many Indians are no saints either, so many come an overstay visas or come through Canada or Mexico. Drop the pretense that india is any better off than Pakistan when it comes to immigration. Both countries have people that come by legal and illegal means.

That’s even worse that your best CEO caliber people want to leave, if you reflect on it. Even your best and brightest want to go to the US. What does that say about their options in India. It’s probably why that American AI CEO comments got under India’s collective skin; that india couldn’t compete with them.

 
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So all Indians that go to the US are CEOs? ; I guess Complete Escape Opportunists, then indeed, if you say so.

Many Indians are no saints either, so many come an overstay visas or come through Canada or Mexico. Drop the pretense that india is any better off than Pakistan when it comes to immigration. Both countries have people that come by legal and illegal means.

That’s even worse that your best CEO caliber people want to leave, if you reflect on it. Even your best and brightest want to go to the US. What does that say about their options in India. It’s probably why that American AI CEO comments got under India’s collective skin; that india couldn’t compete with them.

Indians are the best per capita income group , they are the best contributing ethnic group in USA , they are hardly one percent in population but give more than six percent of tax . They live peacefully in the country where they go , no participation in riots and terrorism .

 
Lesson for super power ?
Lol
given a chance all pakistanis (99 percent ) will go to America even by donki .
Make that 100% for Indians... Oh well Indians will even go to Islamic hell of the middle east.
 
Make that 100% for Indians... Oh well Indians will even go to Islamic hell of the middle east.
Pl see the topic first ,
Somebody wants to teach a lesson to a super power .
Indians are not trying to teach any lesson to US , we are not doing jihad against them , as you people cry war day and night against yahud o nasara , but at the same time go to Europe and America illegally by dinghy or boats at the great risk of life.
There is a difference , Indians go for taking over big offices and contribute in the economy in a big way .
 
Pl see the topic first ,
Somebody wants to teach a lesson to a super power .
Indians are not trying to teach any lesson to US , we are not doing jihad against them , as you people cry war day and night against yahud o nasara , but at the same time go to Europe and America illegally by dinghy or boats at the great risk of life.
There is a difference , Indians go for taking over big offices and contribute in the economy in a big way .
It's irrelevant who is teaching who a lesson and so is your half-A comment about 99% big bad backward pakis leaving their hell for greener pastures. Now tell us why Indians dump their paradise for western slums or even go to Islamic hell.
 
It's irrelevant who is teaching who a lesson and so is your half-A comment about 99% big bad backward pakis leaving their hell for greener pastures. Now tell us why Indians dump their paradise for western slums or even go to Islamic hell.
Indians help them to drive their economy by heading giant tech companies and establishing big companies , no rioting no jihad on world trade centre , we are not in it .
 
Indians help them to drive their economy by heading giant tech companies and establishing big companies , no rioting no jihad on world trade centre , we are not in it .
You simply duct and beat around the bush or have a comprehension problem. I can provide some very very juicy links to shed some light on ground realities in the paradise but would not waste time or bandwidth.
 
You simply duct and beat around the bush or have a comprehension problem. I can provide some very very juicy links to shed some light on ground realities in the paradise but would not waste time or bandwidth.
I simply showed mirror to the people who want to teach lesson to a super power US, at the same time want to enter and live in the same country legally or illegally even at the cost of life .
 
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