US will start WW3 if war expands to Pakistan : Gen Hamid Gul

[Mav3rick]

How long the war go??? A week or two week??? I am sure within a week one party will surrender. I wish it would be American who will surrender in a week.. ha ha ha ...

Soloman2 and Gambit will throw some light on their surrender..

How long did it take for Vietnam to surrender? How long did it take for Iraq to surrender? How long has it taken for Afghanistan to surrender? Unless, none of the countries ever surrendered. Now add to all that the huge population of Pakistan with 55% population under 21.

In reality, no power on earth can make Pakistanis surrender so what they do instead, they plant seeds of internal unrest and division. The USA can destroy Pakistan back to the stone age but they cannot conquer Pakistan......and ofcourse, Pakistan has the ability to hit back.

 

[GURU DUTT]

How long did it take for Vietnam to surrender? How long did it take for Iraq to surrender? How long has it taken for Afghanistan to surrender? Unless, none of the countries ever surrendered. Now add to all that the huge population of Pakistan with 55% population under 21.

In reality, no power on earth can make Pakistanis surrender so what they do instead, they plant seeds of internal unrest and division. The USA can destroy Pakistan back to the stone age but they cannot conquer Pakistan......and ofcourse, Pakistan has the ability to hit back.

sir you might be right but why is Us & NATO buildilg large consolates all over pakistan & afghanistan if you think they are just leave it in 2014 , about ur population well whats the basic any avrage man on the streets wants first...kindly mere masoom se sawal ka jawab jaroor dein DHANYAWAAD...! & please dont take my post otherwise

 

[Mav3rick]

sir you might be right but why is Us & NATO buildilg large consolates all over pakistan & afghanistan if you think they are just leave it in 2014 , about ur population well whats the basic any avrage man on the streets wants first...kindly mere masoom se sawal ka jawab jaroor dein DHANYAWAAD...! & please dont take my post otherwise

Well the answer is quiet simple, install puppet Govt.'s in both countries, keep presence and enjoy the outcome. To this date we have not been able to get the IPI pipeline from Iran to Pakistan despite the fact that work at Iran's end is complete, it's because of US pressure on Pakistan and despite our severe suffering in the shape of massive power deficit we continue to accept dictation.....puppet Govt.

 

[GURU DUTT]

Well the answer is quiet simple, install puppet Govt.'s in both countries, keep presence and enjoy the outcome. To this date we have not been able to get the IPI pipeline from Iran to Pakistan despite the fact that work at Iran's end is complete, it's because of US pressure on Pakistan and despite our severe suffering in the shape of massive power deficit we continue to accept dictation.....puppet Govt.

exactlly and sir do you think your country can do something about the moronic elite you people have if yes when will that happen

 

[OrionHunter]

First of all, we will see the indians on this forum clapping their hands and that's how india will jump in to help the US and that's how india will turn it into a WW-III.

When will you stop spouting nonsense? Why aren't juvenile delinquents banned from posting on PDF? Why are uneducated morons allowed to screw up PDF with such trash? What is the anti India Jamaat doing here? They should be in their Madrassas. Well, anyway I guess little can be done as trolling is part some people's DNA. Carry on....

 

[GURU DUTT]

When will you stop spouting nonsense? Why aren't juvenile delinquents banned from posting on PDF? Why are uneducated morons allowed to screw up PDF with such trash? What is the anti India Jamaat doing here? They should be in their Madrassas. Well, anyway I guess little can be done as trolling is part some people's DNA. Carry on....

ab sir he has to write something to increase hos post as they say "na soot na kapaas julahe lattham -lattha"

 

[OrionHunter]

In reality, no power on earth can make Pakistanis surrender so what they do instead, they plant seeds of internal unrest and division. The USA can destroy Pakistan back to the stone age but they cannot conquer Pakistan......and ofcourse, Pakistan has the ability to hit back.

Wait! When I asked a long time Pakistani member on some other thread whether he would fight for Islam first or Pakistan, you know what he replied? He said that fighting for Islam is the first priority and then only Pakistan. On further probing he said that fighting for Islam means fighting for Pakistan! I didn't get it and I still don't!

In other words, defending Pakistan as a nation is not a priority but defending Islam is! So, if Islam is in danger, say in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan is fighting a war at the same time, this guy according to his priorities would rather go to Saudi to fight for Islam than to fight for Pakistan! WTF? I thought one's country comes before religion always and every time?

So what's it?

 

[regular]

don't forget who said this! it's hamid gul who is still living in 80s when USA was fighting war with USSR but this guy really need some help to wake the heck up and smell the coffee. As far as Attacking Pakistan? Well it will never happen in near future and i don't even see this in another 20-30 years from now. Simply because War cost money and USA is not doing well financially and it will not start another war with country like Pakistan which is pretty strong. Afghanistan had no army and maybe more so 50-70,000 talibans but USA deployed around 200,000 plus troops against them altogether with ISAF. now in order to attack Pakistan which has army strong as 1.1 million reserve included. It would need more numbers to physically attack Pakistan, USA would need pre 2001 economy and collision of similar to gulf war1 or 9/11 sort of situation. Hamid gul should stop charging people up in Pakistan. he might need some wake up pills

I hope ure assessments comes out to be true but in my opinion/knowledge U underestimated US in terms of its finances and military.
US never uses its money in war. To tell U the truth they uses ure pocket money to support their war. That is the only reason they stayed in power as sole super power for last hundred years till now. The reason is that U don't have control on ure pocket but they do have control on it.
If u wanna know how then I'm gonna explain that to U.
The main reason is that they are getting free OIL or anything from all over the world. They don't pay anything. You will say no! they pay dollars for that. U know they have free dollars, they just print them and buy everything from it. So its proved they just pay piece of paper created within their printing presses and thats all. But we have to work our @$$of for these dollars

 

[GURU DUTT]

Wait! When I asked a long time Pakistani member on some other thread whether he would fight for Islam first or Pakistan, you know what he replied? He said that fighting for Islam is the first priority and then only Pakistan. On further probing he said that fighting for Islam means fighting for Pakistan! I didn't get it and I still don't!

In other words, defending Pakistan as a nation is not a priority but defending Islam is! So, if Islam is in danger, say in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan is fighting a war at the same time, this guy according to his priorities would rather go to Saudi to fight for Islam than to fight for Pakistan! WTF? I thought one's country comes before religion always and every time?

So what's it?

your quite right me also always wondered why all of suddne some mullahs start shouting "islam kahtre mein hai" what kind of crap is thet Islam is not just a religion but a way of life & how on earth it can be in danger just because someone says so & the beuty of that is many muslims beleave it & start making trouble without useing ther heads..To all members i am just curios & dont want any flames & certainly i RESPECT ISLAM VERY MUCH & I OPOLOGISE IF ANY PERSON THINKS OTHERWISE

 

[TARIQ BN ZIYAAD]

Wait! When I asked a long time Pakistani member on some other thread whether he would fight for Islam first or Pakistan, you know what he replied? He said that fighting for Islam is the first priority and then only Pakistan. On further probing he said that fighting for Islam means fighting for Pakistan! I didn't get it and I still don't!

In other words, defending Pakistan as a nation is not a priority but defending Islam is! So, if Islam is in danger, say in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan is fighting a war at the same time, this guy according to his priorities would rather go to Saudi to fight for Islam than to fight for Pakistan! WTF? I thought one's country comes before religion always and every time?

So what's it?

First of all islam is never in danger but we muslims or our holy places could be in danger

Since pakistan is mainly a muslim country defending pakistan is also defending muslims say if attacked by a non muslim country like india

But we muslims have gr8 respect and emotional about our holy places in makka and madina if say saudia is in danger of getting invaded by a non muslim country and there is a chance they will come and harm those holy places. i or any muslim would preffer to defend them over their countries ( u also have to remember this concept of a country was not there some 100 plus year ago ).

TARIQ

 

[regular]

your quite right me also always wondered why all of suddne some mullahs start shouting "islam kahtre mein hai" what kind of crap is thet Islam is not just a religion but a way of life & how on earth it can be in danger just because someone says so & the beuty of that is many muslims beleave it & start making trouble without useing ther heads..To all members i am just curios & dont want any flames & certainly i RESPECT ISLAM VERY MUCH & I OPOLOGISE IF ANY PERSON THINKS OTHERWISE

The answer for ure confusion is very simple. A Muslim is oblidged to live and die for the comandments of God-Almighty Allah. He can't follow his own desires. He has to see and assess the danger and will defend his religion or country/home accordingly.

 

[GURU DUTT]

The answer for ure confusion is very simple. A Muslim is oblidged to live and die for the comandments of God-Almighty Allah. He can't follow his own desires. He has to see and assess the danger and will defend his religion or country/home accordingly.

thanks mate but what i want to know is why muslims of subcontinent are so easily mislead im confused that they are grown up but still just ...?

 

[TARIQ BN ZIYAAD]

thanks mate but what i want to know is why muslims of subcontinent are so easily mislead im confused that they are grown up but still just ...?

mislead? would u care to explain more

TARIQ

 

[GURU DUTT]

mislead? would u care to explain more

TARIQ

leave it bro its a old story i just get emotional when i hear some thing like this please forgive me if you find it offensive now please back to topick...Thanks.

 

[TARIQ BN ZIYAAD]

Hi

no i didnot find it offensive i just could not understand

TARIQ